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Old 04-25-2006, 09:43 PM
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Default Full Coilovers: Form & Function VS. New OMNI POWER Design

They are both around the same price range. $650~. But the Form & Function design is offering 24-way adjustable. Then again OMNI POWER claims that their new design is a lot better than the last one. Any first hand experience? All opinions welcome.

Form & Function:


-24 levels of dampening adjustable.
-0 to 120mm adjustable ride height. Adjustable at the spring perch, and shock body.
-6061 Aluminum construction with T6 for added strength.
-Forged and anodized for a superior long lasting finish.
-Optional Spring rates from 6kg/mm-24kg/mm available (add. cost).
-Adjustable for both compression and rebound.
-Mono-tube design.
-Ideal for ultimate street performance.

Also JHPUSA.COM is having a special on these -
The ultimate street coilovers. Function Form is a 24 way damper and rebound adjustable monotube full coilover system. The setup has seperate height and preload adjustments allowing for optimal adjustment and allowing full strut travel at all times along with pillowball upper mounts or top mounts*. Mounts are constructed of 6061 powder coated aluminum with T6 for added strength. Threads are teflon coated to prevent rust. Rebuildable and serviceable in the US. 1 YEAR MANUFACTURER WARRANTY and custom spring rates avilable (6k-13k spring rates only) + FREE SHIPPING...


OMNI POWER:
Just released, Omni-Power Tilyte full coil overs with speed sensitive reactive damping. In development for over 1 year, our new Tilyte mono tube coil over is a combination of the most advanced materials and fluids to provide unsurpassed ride quality, longevity and razor sharp cornering response. Each Tilyte coil over incorporates a newly designed Omnipower piston which reacts to the slightest movement. We use an exotic SAE specially heat treated spring steel for our shim stacks that has up to 35% + higher fatigue resistance than competitors shims. Cycle testing was done to provide the most consistent performance over the longest possible life span. The new Omni-Power Tilyte coil over design is able to perform with in 2% of new after 400,000 cycles. We tested several different shock oils and found that Fina was able to provide the most stable oil viscosity and least amount of damping loss at maximum operating temperature. A new seal design ensures a leak free shock even under the most extreme conditions and years of abuse. The re-engineered damping provides an ultra smooth ride and instantly adjusts to any road surface condition.
Cycle testing and road testing were done during the R&D process in order to ensure maximum life and consistant performance . The guide lines Omnipower uses for cycle testing are as follows:
Cycle stroke: 50mm
Cycle speed: 300mm/sec
Cycle duration: 400,000 cycles
1 Cycle= 50mm up and 50mm down or 100mm of movement.

In order to provide the best possible consistency, we build smaller production runs and randomly select a few shocks from each. Randomly selected shocks are dyno tested and compared to a master curve for their part number before the production run is released for sale.

Street full coilovers:
Front 10kg/mm spring rate (560 Lbs/inch)
Rear 8kg/mm spring rate (448 Lbs/inch)
Ideal for daily driving or street strip use. Provides a smooth responsive ride with greatly improved cornering control and feel. Spring rates can be switched from front to rear. Independent track testing by professional race car drivers has shown over 2+ seconds a lap faster times over stock and other entry level suspensions.

Sport full coil overs:
Front 12kg/mm spring rate (670 Lbs/inch)
Rear 10kg/mm spring rate (560 Lbs/inch)
Increased Spring rates and more aggressively valved shocks provide a street able ride with race track bread performance. Track tuned, our sport suspension offers true race car handing performance and feel. Yet still suitable for road use.
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im gona go out on a limb here and say that just beucase there is "24 way adjustable" (which is completly wrong, there is 24 settings for the rebond adjustment most likely). But still the range of adjustment on the FF coilovers is probably a vary small range.

As for the omnipower, i dunno i haven't heard much of anything about this "tilyte" coil over. I think Koni has a line of shocks that do something similiar but im not sure. My knowledge of this type of shock is extremly small.
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Default Re: Full Coilovers: Form & Function VS. New OMNI POWER Design (slammed_93_hatch)

anyone else? I will be ordering in the next few days.
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Default Re: Full Coilovers: Form & Function VS. New OMNI POWER Design (THE GAME IS THICK)

why are you stuck on these two?


there are better proven setups out in the market place that you will get tons of positive fed back about
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slammed_93_hatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why are you stuck on these two?


there are better proven setups out in the market place that you will get tons of positive fed back about</TD></TR></TABLE>

why? because im looking at the price..... of course i can spend $1k on some teins or whatever but these two are in my budget. unless you know of any other brands that are priced at $650 shipped for a full coilover setup???????
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im pretty sure he is refering to the koni/gc setup that most people have and swear by. it's only a few bones more.
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im going with the omni's since they have a 2 year warranty on them and can be rebuilt.
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that's probably what i would get too. just make sure to get the new ones with the larger collars.
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Default Re: Full Coilovers: Form & Function VS. New OMNI POWER Design (THE GAME IS THICK)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by THE GAME IS THICK &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">im going with the omni's since they have a 2 year warranty on them and can be rebuilt.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Lifetime warranty for GC/Koni and can also be rebuilt....
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Price is often misleading. There are other important factors to consider aside from price. Unless you don't care about performance or reliability.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PIC Performance &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Price is often misleading. There are other important factors to consider aside from price. Unless you don't care about performance or reliability.</TD></TR></TABLE>

can you expand on that?
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my older bro has the omni power full coilovers in his rhd 4door civic,and the car feels great.i just got the UGR full coilvoers i hear they r almost the same as omni and they feel good to
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EK4civichatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Lifetime warranty for GC/Koni and can also be rebuilt....</TD></TR></TABLE>

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You don't pay $4g's for Full-Race turbo kits as opposed to $2g's for a Greddy kit without knowing what the differences are, right?
You should know whether or not the product will be able to perform its intended function, to what degree it will perform, what its intended function is, if its suitable for your application, how well its made, and if its worth the price you're paying.
Price tags and names don't determine how well a coilover will perform.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PIC Performance &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You don't pay $4g's for Full-Race turbo kits as opposed to $2g's for a Greddy kit without knowing what the differences are, right?
You should know whether or not the product will be able to perform its intended function, to what degree it will perform, what its intended function is, if its suitable for your application, how well its made, and if its worth the price you're paying.
Price tags and names don't determine how well a coilover will perform. </TD></TR></TABLE>

yea I see what you're getting at but can you expand on what coilovers are better (i.e. gc/koni)? not an example of a cheap turbo kit compared to high quality expensive turbo kit.
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Basically, if you can only find very little or no feedback on a product, your going to make yourself a Guinea Pig if you still buy them. Omni is known for making lots of people Guinea Pigs w/ less than favorable results. FF is new, so you don't know anything about their products or how they do business at all...

You really shouldn't be "stuck" on these two products IMO...
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Sure, you got PM.
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Default Re: Full Coilovers: Form & Function VS. New OMNI POWER Design (THE GAME IS THICK)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by THE GAME IS THICK &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yea I see what you're getting at but can you expand on what coilovers are better (i.e. gc/koni)? not an example of a cheap turbo kit compared to high quality expensive turbo kit.</TD></TR></TABLE>

FYI: His opinion will be biased since his company designs, manufactures, and sells coil-overs. That is why he used the "Turbo Kit" analogy. I wouldn't expect a person to try to sell you anything but his own parts (he'd have to be crazy not to)...
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