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Old 01-25-2012, 01:07 PM
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ive never seen anyone with a BWR subframe brace on their car, does anyone think this is legit and if it is, is it a good deal?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/90-93-Acura-...ht_1162wt_1037
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Are you buying simply based on looks?

I have seen them, they don't look that great.
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not JUST looks, im gonna upgrade my rear sway bar in the future too, i saw that one on ebay and i dont even know if its LEGIT BWR and that kind of scares me bc i know alot of fakes out there..
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not JUST looks, im gonna upgrade my rear sway bar in the future too, i saw that one on ebay and i dont even know if its LEGIT BWR and that kind of scares me bc i know alot of fakes out there..
Yeah, it looks like it's "legit" BWR.

If it scares you buying a fake, why are you looking at BWR parts?

Have you done any research on what exactly your buying with BWR?
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BWR isn't even legit. Theirs are knockoffs of everybody elses. Get it if you want to.
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BWR = Garbage.

If you hardpark, go for it.
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i emailed BWR directly with reference to some parts i saw on ebay, and they said they will sell me parts from them at ebay matched prices..so i guess that'll work, and its a DD so i dont need like asr or function stuff..its just for some more bling and adjustable sway bar
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ugh That is no excuse to put those poor quality parts on your car, but oh well. it's your car, your money, so do as you please.
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ive never heard of anyone having a problem with a BWR part, ive hear horror stories about skunk2 ****, and other "high end" name brand..
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ive never heard of anyone having a problem with a BWR part, ive hear horror stories about skunk2 ****, and other "high end" name brand..
You didn't search did you?

Just recently there was a thread about someones coilover breaking. The part that holds the tie rod to the shock body snapped off. Does this sound like quality to you?

https://honda-tech.com/forums/suspension-brakes-54/beware-blackworks-llc-3009600/
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im not buying BWR coilovers, im buying function and form full coilovers, and atleast 200 cars in my city are using BWR braces and control arms with no problems, i was just wondering if that looked like an authentic BWR part..thats all
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are you going to make a thread asking if "insert brand/part/style here" is legit?

first, a function and form thread. now, this..? SEARCH + GOOGLE
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wow a noob who probably is still in high school and probably doesnt have or his parents buy him everything is talking ****?? man i really fking hate how stupid kids just talk **** on this forum, on my evo forum aint nobody talk **** or anything they offer help or advice and make jokes but this site seems like a pile of dog **** compared to my evo forum..i guess it comes with the nature of the car, kids drive hondas not evos..so i should expect everyone to talk like a stupid kid here
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first off - i'm 21. a high school graduate and i am attending college currently. i work full time at Nationwide Realty and buy all my own parts and finance my '09 Civic every month. so how you came to the conclusion you did, i don't know.

second point - how does a post count make me a n00b? i could have vast knowledge that you could only wish you had. a little number underneath my avatar tells you as much information about what i know as a turd in a toilet.

third point - there are SOOOOO many threads (on Honda-tech, especially) all over the internet about "insert quality/legitness of said part" and you can find ALLLLL the info you want there.. there's no need to make multiple threads asking about every part you are interested in.

and my final point - having an Evo doesn't make you a badass
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nope it doesnt make me a badass, but the people in the EVO community dont act as ****ing stupid when someone ask a ?, yes i can google **** all day, but **** changes everyday and new opionions arent always posted. so i ****ing ask.
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you alright, bro?
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are those JDM tampons? if not i dont want them hahah
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You're essentially asking if a knockoff product is being knocked off? If you're that worried then my advice is just to get the stuff from the same place the 200 other cars (how you actually know it's that many people using them is beyond me) are getting them from.
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Originally Posted by bryan24207
im not buying BWR coilovers, im buying function and form full coilovers, and atleast 200 cars in my city are using BWR braces and control arms with no problems, i was just wondering if that looked like an authentic BWR part..thats all
That doesn't matter what your buying. It is a fact BWR makes very poor quality parts, that is proff. Their braces are a knock of a ASR brace, mixed with some F7. (which is ugly to begin with)

There is R&D in these parts what so ever. You will see. The hardware they send will be the same. Compare this to a ASR brace, and you will see clear difference. These are 3 peice bars, where ASR is a 1 peice deisgin, but they also include "backing plates" that slip inside the subframe for added strength. BWR does the same, however, if my memory severs me right they bolt to a peice, which then bolts to the actual "subframe brace'', if you want to call it that.

It is a very simple, and well known fact this brace is a low quality knock off.

Oh, and Function&form aren't that great either.

Also, no one cares you drive a evo8, really, they aren't that special.
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lol i go to almost all the cruise ins, and we do alot of toy runs and charity cruises around here, and we have very few parts stores most the guys i know buy the same **** at the same part store and i know hundreds of people with this stuff installed, 200 is just a round number im sure its close to that tho
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and as for the evo not being very special, u clearly havent drove one or owned one, theyre pretty freaking special and do things that i only wish my honda could do
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lol i go to almost all the cruise ins, and we do alot of toy runs and charity cruises around here, and we have very few parts stores most the guys i know buy the same **** at the same part store and i know hundreds of people with this stuff installed, 200 is just a round number im sure its close to that tho
So get it where they get it.
You're still asking for verification that a part may or may not be a knockoff of a knockoff. And really I don't care how many people you know that are rocking these. They are low quality Ebay grade stuff and most if not all of you are using it for looks. Some may be going with these for performance but with no R&D behind them I would trust them as far as I could throw them.

If the etailer doesn't have a guide like this for fake product then you're pretty much on your own.
http://www.jhpusa.com/store/pc/viewP...idcategory=637
Fake BWR. I'm still laughing.
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and as for the evo not being very special, u clearly havent drove one or owned one, theyre pretty freaking special and do things that i only wish my honda could do
Why are you waving the Evo around for? In an attempt to validate yourself or make others feel inferior? I have a respect for all cars so I don't understand your motivation to constantly do this as if Honda was somehow lesser.
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and as for the evo not being very special, u clearly havent drove one or owned one, theyre pretty freaking special and do things that i only wish my honda could do


I actually almost bought my friend's 2 years ago. I have driven it many times, and ridden in it countless times. Had the loan ready and everything.

They aren't these amazing machines, that make your jaw drop. I'll admit, they are fun to drive, and quick.

On top of the fact, the insurance would have been down right crazy.
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OP it really doesn't matter, it's not like you could make a knockoff any worse than an actual BWR product.
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