Go Back   Honda-Tech >

Honda and Acura Model Specific Forums

> Honda CRX / EF Civic
New! Use your Facebook, Google, AIM & Yahoo accounts to securely log into this site, click logo to login  


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 06-19-2004, 02:56 PM   #1
limpy
Junior Member
 
limpy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: fort lewis, washington, USA
Posts: 881
Default b16 2nd o2 sensor

i want to hook up the 2nd o2 sensor in my crx with a b16 but don't know where the hell to run the wire. so where does it go?
This ad is not displayed to registered or logged-in members.
Register your free account today and become a member on Honda-Tech!
__________________
"if it doesn't fit, force it. if it breaks then it needed to be replaced anyway."
limpy is offline Report Post   Reply With Quote
Old 06-19-2004, 03:06 PM   #2
garlic jr
 
garlic jr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Rowlett, tx, usa
Posts: 149
Send a message via AIM to garlic jr
Default Re: b16 2nd o2 sensor (limpy)

on hhu.com their was a link to this question... integra forum...

i think it was that if u had an obd1 system with obd2 motor u could run the 2nd o2 onto a piggy back tricking the ecu into thinking u have a working 2nd o2 sensor...

why the hell did u buy a obd2 motor? in a crx no less.. dont wanna know what that was like getting it to work
__________________
1994 Honda Civic, b16a 1st gen swap...stock. 10 flat in the 1/8 with NO traction all the way to 3rd gear !!!
garlic jr is offline Report Post   Reply With Quote
Old 06-19-2004, 03:12 PM   #3
Rywire
Member
 
Rywire's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: San Jose/ Monterey, ca, usa
Posts: 5,829
Default Re: b16 2nd o2 sensor (limpy)

Its c8 if you are running obd0.
PS, if it bogs, and hesitates then switch them around. Ryan

He never said it was obd2
__________________
Droppedcrxsi.com for B16 / B18 / K20 Swap Info
rywire.com
skunk2.com
karcepts.com
Rywire is offline Report Post   Reply With Quote
Old 06-19-2004, 03:36 PM   #4
limpy
Junior Member
 
limpy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: fort lewis, washington, USA
Posts: 881
Default Re: b16 2nd o2 sensor (droppedcrxsi)

c8 allready has a wire in it. do i tap into that wire or can i plug it into a pin some where else. it is obd0 by the way.
__________________
"if it doesn't fit, force it. if it breaks then it needed to be replaced anyway."
limpy is offline Report Post   Reply With Quote
Old 06-19-2004, 04:26 PM   #5
Rywire
Member
 
Rywire's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: San Jose/ Monterey, ca, usa
Posts: 5,829
Default Re: b16 2nd o2 sensor (limpy)

This only works if you have the the wires comming out at you with the clip side up.
__________________
Droppedcrxsi.com for B16 / B18 / K20 Swap Info
rywire.com
skunk2.com
karcepts.com
Rywire is offline Report Post   Reply With Quote
Old 06-19-2004, 05:33 PM   #6
limpy
Junior Member
 
limpy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: fort lewis, washington, USA
Posts: 881
Default Re: b16 2nd o2 sensor (droppedcrxsi)

so it is the only one on the smallest clip that has no wire in it? what do i how do i put it in the clip?
__________________
"if it doesn't fit, force it. if it breaks then it needed to be replaced anyway."
limpy is offline Report Post   Reply With Quote
Old 06-21-2004, 11:26 PM   #7
Tman
 
Tman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Charlotte, NC, USA
Posts: 46
Send a message via AIM to Tman
Default Re: b16 2nd o2 sensor (limpy)

I need to know this also...
__________________
91 CRX HF w/ b16

Vouches: Renoracing
Tman is offline Report Post   Reply With Quote
Old 06-21-2004, 11:40 PM   #8
Rywire
Member
 
Rywire's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: San Jose/ Monterey, ca, usa
Posts: 5,829
Default Re: b16 2nd o2 sensor (Tman)

I allready told you.
__________________
Droppedcrxsi.com for B16 / B18 / K20 Swap Info
rywire.com
skunk2.com
karcepts.com
Rywire is offline Report Post   Reply With Quote
Old 06-22-2004, 08:05 AM   #9
crx_88_si
 
crx_88_si's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Somewhere, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 3,412
Default

this also might help in o2 placement..

__________________
Vouche: Jay-C

My Car: http://www.cardomain.com/id/crx88si
crx_88_si is offline Report Post   Reply With Quote
Old 06-22-2004, 09:12 AM   #10
88DXCRX
Member
 
88DXCRX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: I told you to wait in the truck in Texas, United States
Posts: 2,652
Send a message via AIM to 88DXCRX
Default Re: b16 2nd o2 sensor (limpy)



You need to add a wire at C8 and wire the o2 sensors as shown:


__________________
living that automotive dream
88DXCRX is offline Report Post   Reply With Quote
Old 06-22-2004, 09:37 AM   #11
crx_88_si
 
crx_88_si's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Somewhere, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 3,412
Default

SAVED, great informational pics !
__________________
Vouche: Jay-C

My Car: http://www.cardomain.com/id/crx88si
crx_88_si is offline Report Post   Reply With Quote
Old 06-22-2004, 09:44 AM   #12
EL Vap133
Moderator
 
EL Vap133's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Los Angeles, CA, USA
Posts: 25,395
Send a message via AIM to EL Vap133
Default Re: b16 2nd o2 sensor (88DXCRX)

Phil to the rescue!
EL Vap133 is offline Report Post   Reply With Quote
Old 06-22-2004, 10:17 AM   #13
Rywire
Member
 
Rywire's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: San Jose/ Monterey, ca, usa
Posts: 5,829
Default Re: b16 2nd o2 sensor (EL Vap133)

YA, there ya go!! Thats what I was looking for.
__________________
Droppedcrxsi.com for B16 / B18 / K20 Swap Info
rywire.com
skunk2.com
karcepts.com
Rywire is offline Report Post   Reply With Quote
Old 06-22-2004, 11:03 AM   #14
nautica_t
Member
 
nautica_t's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 2,231
Default Re: b16 2nd o2 sensor (droppedcrxsi)

how do you tell which one is the primary o2 and which is the secondary o2, according to that picture, i have it switched around, would it make a difference if they were switched? TIA.
don't mean to hi-jack the thread.
__________________
Beware of Acura 2000 (Ontario, CA)
OG Crowhouse CF Winglet
Vouches: see profile
nautica_t is offline Report Post   Reply With Quote
Old 06-22-2004, 12:12 PM   #15
limpy
Junior Member
 
limpy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: fort lewis, washington, USA
Posts: 881
Default Re: b16 2nd o2 sensor (nautica_t)

great pics that really helped. now how do i put the wire into the clip that goes into the ecu. isn't there a pin that goes over the wire that goes into the ecu? how do i get it in the pin?
__________________
"if it doesn't fit, force it. if it breaks then it needed to be replaced anyway."
limpy is offline Report Post   Reply With Quote
Old 06-22-2004, 12:25 PM   #16
Rywire
Member
 
Rywire's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: San Jose/ Monterey, ca, usa
Posts: 5,829
Default Re: b16 2nd o2 sensor (nautica_t)

Quote:
Originally Posted by nautica_t
how do you tell which one is the primary o2 and which is the secondary o2, according to that picture, i have it switched around, would it make a difference if they were switched? TIA.
don't mean to hi-jack the thread.
If yours is running good, and there is no hesitation, its correct. If there is hesitation, switch them.
__________________
Droppedcrxsi.com for B16 / B18 / K20 Swap Info
rywire.com
skunk2.com
karcepts.com
Rywire is offline Report Post   Reply With Quote
Old 06-22-2004, 12:29 PM   #17
88DXCRX
Member
 
88DXCRX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: I told you to wait in the truck in Texas, United States
Posts: 2,652
Send a message via AIM to 88DXCRX
Default Re: b16 2nd o2 sensor (nautica_t)

Quote:
Originally Posted by nautica_t
how do you tell which one is the primary o2 and which is the secondary o2, according to that picture, i have it switched around, would it make a difference if they were switched? TIA.
don't mean to hi-jack the thread.
If you have it switched,it will run like crap..and will be too rich..

Go here: http://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=404493&page=1
and http://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=404493&page=2
and read what a guy called "Camshaft" had to say..(2 pages)
P.S.>If you do have them switched around,be sure to reset your ECU while
you are at it..

To wire it up you need an extra pin from a donor harness or an unused
wire if you have one.
For info on removing the pins,go here: http://www.deepstaged.net/rpecu4gb.htm
__________________
living that automotive dream
88DXCRX is offline Report Post   Reply With Quote
Old 06-22-2004, 04:13 PM   #18
nautica_t
Member
 
nautica_t's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 2,231
Default Re: b16 2nd o2 sensor (88DXCRX)

88DXCRX.
okay can i just take out the o2 sensor and switch spots. or are the actual o2 sensors built differently. cuz than i'll just switch the positions rather than re-splicing the wires. cuz right now, i guess you could say the primary o2 sensor wire is spliced into the secondary o2 sensor on the ecu pinout. and primary pinout wire is connected to secondary o2 sensor.
i don't got much bog.
only bog i get is when i'm in 5th gear goign about 110-115 KM/H at about 4 grand, it bogs there, if i put on the throattle it kinda chokes, so would changing my o2 sensor wiring correct this?
-> and by the way, i'm suppose to connect the A/F ratio to the primary o2 sensor correct, it doesn't bounce liek all the other A/F ratio i seen. Thanks 88dxcrx, you've been a great help so far. very much appriciated.
__________________
Beware of Acura 2000 (Ontario, CA)
OG Crowhouse CF Winglet
Vouches: see profile
nautica_t is offline Report Post   Reply With Quote
Old 06-23-2004, 08:19 AM   #19
88DXCRX
Member
 
88DXCRX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: I told you to wait in the truck in Texas, United States
Posts: 2,652
Send a message via AIM to 88DXCRX
Default Re: b16 2nd o2 sensor (nautica_t)

Yes,you can swap positions of the O2 sensors in the exhaust manifold..
That is what I would have done if I had known at that time..
Since my engine was already installed,
I figured it would be hell to get the sensors so
I just switched the two wires at the ECU.

For my car,having the o2 sensors wired correctly
made a big difference in the performance and drivability.
Good Luck,Phil
__________________
living that automotive dream
88DXCRX is offline Report Post   Reply With Quote
Old 06-23-2004, 09:06 AM   #20
nautica_t
Member
 
nautica_t's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 2,231
Default Re: b16 2nd o2 sensor (88DXCRX)

hey 88dxcrx, it feels a bit better now that i have changed the wires over, but we'll see how much response it has on the highway
thanks again bro. but i have another problem now lol
but i'll make a new thread.
__________________
Beware of Acura 2000 (Ontario, CA)
OG Crowhouse CF Winglet
Vouches: see profile
nautica_t is offline Report Post   Reply With Quote
Old 06-24-2004, 02:37 PM   #21
limpy
Junior Member
 
limpy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: fort lewis, washington, USA
Posts: 881
Default Re: b16 2nd o2 sensor (limpy)

Quote:
Originally Posted by limpy
now how do i put the wire into the clip that goes into the ecu. isn't there a pin that goes over the wire that goes into the ecu? how do i get it in the pin?
__________________
"if it doesn't fit, force it. if it breaks then it needed to be replaced anyway."
limpy is offline Report Post   Reply With Quote
Old 06-24-2004, 02:47 PM   #22
88DXCRX
Member
 
88DXCRX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: I told you to wait in the truck in Texas, United States
Posts: 2,652
Send a message via AIM to 88DXCRX
Default Re: b16 2nd o2 sensor (limpy)

answered above:
To wire it up you need an extra pin from a donor harness or an unused
wire if you have one.
For info on removing the pins,go here: http://www.deepstaged.net/rpecu4gb.htm
__________________
living that automotive dream
88DXCRX is offline Report Post   Reply With Quote
Old 06-24-2004, 05:07 PM   #23
RCautoworks
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Illinois
Posts: 17,217
Send a message via AIM to RCautoworks
Default Re: b16 2nd o2 sensor (88DXCRX)

Little tip, the pic posted above showing the clips and numbers is a great pic but the pic is backward compared to how other sites list them, so just use 1 chart and you will be good.
RCautoworks is offline Report Post   Reply With Quote
Old 06-25-2004, 02:20 PM   #24
limpy
Junior Member
 
limpy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: fort lewis, washington, USA
Posts: 881
Default Re: b16 2nd o2 sensor (90blackcrx)

Quote:
Originally Posted by 88DXCRX
answered above:
To wire it up you need an extra pin from a donor harness or an unused
wire if you have one.
For info on removing the pins,go here: http://www.deepstaged.net/rpecu4gb.htm
thank you that was what i needed to know. everyone should save this page for some damn good info!!
__________________
"if it doesn't fit, force it. if it breaks then it needed to be replaced anyway."
limpy is offline Report Post   Reply With Quote
Old 06-28-2004, 07:28 AM   #25
luciffer
Junior Member
 
luciffer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Moncton, NB, Canada
Posts: 149
Default Re: b16 2nd o2 sensor (limpy)

I all ready have both my o2 sensors in, wired up and working correctly with the original white and green connectors.

But i want to replace the o2 sensors, so my question is are the two sensors the same and what is the replacement part no.

thanks


***Edit *** called my local honda dealer and for the o2 sensor from a 92-95 si they want $250 CND per sensor. I am i crazy or is this nucking futs? Has anybody replaced these o2 sensors with non OEM sensors? If so what brand and how did it turn out.

Modified by luciffer at 5:08 PM 6/28/2004


Modified by luciffer at 5:24 PM 6/28/2004
luciffer is offline Report Post   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
af, b16, b16a, bar, civic, honda, location, o2, ratio, removing, sensor, sensors, tech, tricking, wire

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump




All times are GMT -8. The time now is 04:37 PM.

Site Guidelines - Contact Us - Honda-Tech.com - Top


2008 Copyright, InternetBrands Inc.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

Honda and the Honda marquee are registered trademarks of the American Honda Motor Company, Inc. Neither American Honda Motor Company nor its subsidiaries or affiliates shall bear any responsibility for Honda-Tech.com content, comments, or advertising. Honda-Tech.com is not affiliated with American Honda Motor Company in any way. American Honda Motor Company does not sponsor, support, or endorse Honda-Tech.com in any way. Copyright/trademark/sales mark infringements are not intended or implied.