prelittlelude

you can use the f22 dizzy, also start looking at the old pictures in the thread, it has theinfo about the water pump

FlatBlackPrelude

I'm not doubting you one bit but are you 100% positive that I can use my f22 dizzy for this h22a4 because I dont want to waste 50 bucks getting one but....... Thanks prelittlelude.

Bird333

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I am wanting to use my OBD2 F22B2 dizzy (external coil) with a JDM H22A head. Besides some re-wiring I'll have to do will it work?

prelittlelude

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I am wanting to use my OBD2 F22B2 dizzy (external coil) with a JDM H22A head. Besides some re-wiring I'll have to do will it work?</TD></TR></TABLE>

well it depends on the ecu. I have never used an all obd2 dizzy with a obd1 ecu. however i did mix and match , i had 2 sensors in a dizzy that were odb1 and one that was obd 2 and it threw a code for the sensor that was obd2.

HOWEVER i have heard of people using obd2 dizzys on obd1 wihout throwing codes. other than rewiring the obd2 to obd1 it should/might work. i can't confirm on this one

hondaaccord2.2

not that it helps you guys but the f22b dizzy wont fit on a h23 head as far as the bolt pattern so i bought a used h23 distributor and put the guts from the obd2 f22b dizzy into the obd1 h23 dizzy
believe it or not all of the same mounting points from the pickups and everthing are in both distributors havent gotten to use it yet but i think it should work

prelittlelude

thats good information to know, i appreciate you posting that up for me as well as others that might runinto this in the future, thanks agian.

Adam.

Id rather not search through 43 pages, but did you have a dyno graph of this motor N/A? If so, what page and what where themods?

FlatBlackPrelude

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Eitehr search or dont ask. You must not really want to see it or you would search. The epitomey of laziness. I'm not trying to be a jackass but everyone else had to search to have their questions answered.

Adam.

it would've taken you less time to just say the page number or there abouts... as much as you'd love to be a dick, it's annoying to load 1 page on 56k, much less 43.

Sam1am26

No, there is not a dyno n/a or fi of this motor...

PirateMcFred

https://honda-tech.com/zerothre...87853

That's WIKKEDV16's post in Sam's G23VTEC Turbo thread. It is an F23 block though not F22.

Pirate

harpO

great thread! I learned a lot.

prelittlelude

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sorry man, no dyno, maybe when the car come out this next spring. My guess is that n/a the car would have about the same peak torque with slightly more in the lower end. The car in my impression always felt stronger down low than the original h22, so i think increased stroke definatly gave it more torque, but i wish i had a dyno to show you. end all with the lower compression ratio that i had, which was 9:1 it probably wasn't much more powerful than a stock h22 in the top end. down low the car definalty had more torque though.

Adam.

Thanks for the help man, I've been trying to do some research and searching f22 h22 brings up long long threads.

prelittlelude

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I just did a quick search on google for my honda-tech name , and its interesting to see that almost 300 websites come up with it, alot having to do with the mentioning of this thread in alot of other forums. I'm really pleased that people are actually giving credit and pointing people to the origin of this whole thing. I'd just like to extend a thank you to everyone who had supported this project and given it a try or even passed it along to someone else. Thanks everyone.

FlatBlackPrelude

getting ready to start mine real soon(probably after christmas)

1700anddroping

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I just did a quick search on google for my honda-tech name , and its interesting to see that almost 300 websites come up with it, alot having to do with the mentioning of this thread in alot of other forums. I'm really pleased that people are actually giving credit and pointing people to the origin of this whole thing. I'd just like to extend a thank you to everyone who had supported this project and given it a try or even passed it along to someone else. Thanks everyone.</TD></TR></TABLE>


being innovative is what it's all about.

1700anddroping

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well fella's i did not know about this thread till this fella sent it to me or
i would have been here a long time ago.


i am doing the f23 a1 block w/a 3/4" deck plate and h22 head and the
h2b plate and t72 bb and nos pro race fogger set up.i did this set up to
be well like you guys different.i made and bolted this plate to the block
myself.i put all the little tricks you have to do to get the h22 head to work w/the f23 block "into the bottom of the plate" .the bottom half of the plate
is f23 and top half h22 and everything is knocked out in one lick.

this is the way i bolted it down i used 19 little allen head bolts to secure it
to the block.you are probably asking what did i use for a gasket between
the plate and block.i used the black oem enbossed layer of the head gasket
and put honda bond on the outter edges,since there is no pressure here
i think it will work perfect.the next thing i did was tq on this plate for a good 2-3 days just to be sure it was as tight as i could get it and then took it to
.060 out of spec for dan benson to do his thing.

upon dan recieving the block he was IMPRESSED which made me feel awesome
as hell,that some one really liked my idea and done everything he said to do
to the letter.


will continue in the next thread oh by the way here is a pic of the block
at benson's waiting to be sleeved.

1700anddroping

well from this point out all the hard work is done.just have to
figure out a couple of small details like the water pump issue
since my belt is straight off the shelf from a parts store.the
only thing i have to do is change the water pump pulley's from f23
to h22 and that kills that problem.the next one i ran across was the water
tube.i just used the end of a h22 water tube that goers into the thermostat
housing and the end of the f23 water tube that goes into the block
then i cut and tig welded the other pieces i needed in.

next we have the r/s to play w/since i have a 9.393 deck height
being that i am **** about r/s ratio i wanted the best i could get w/o
having to get into custom parts hehe and wait for ever for them.

well i get to hunting on here and what do i find a set of custom 89mm
je pistons w/rings and pins and spiral locks...and get this it has a 1.181
c/h "compression height" so now all i have to do is fined a certain rod lenght
that i am looking for.well no luck so i figure up what i need and put the
order into pauter for a really long *** rod 6.284

well when i combine the 3 major players i get 9.390 and my d/h is 9.393
so i have a little to play with.so here comes the r/s ratio...are you
ready 1.65

will continue on the next post.but here is another pic of the mock up
enjoy.

prelittlelude

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figure out a couple of small details like the water pump issue
since my belt is straight off the shelf from a parts store.the
only thing i have to do is change the water pump pulley's from f23
to h22 and that kills that problem.the next one i ran across was the water
tube.i just used the end of a h22 water tube that goers into the thermostat
housing and the end of the f23 water tube that goes into the block
then i cut and tig welded the other pieces i needed in.
</TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah sounds exactly like what i did. except for the welding. I just used radiator tube and some hose clamps , doesn't leak either..

thanks for posting and make sure to keep us up to date. I like to have this thread a an H+F repository. and that motor is going to be NASTY! thanks agian

edit: you going to run the stock honda oil cooler, i did this on my F block

1700anddroping

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yeah sounds exactly like what i did. except for the welding. I just used radiator tube and some hose clamps , doesn't leak either..

thanks for posting and make sure to keep us up to date. I like to have this thread a an H+F repository. and that motor is going to be NASTY! thanks agian

edit: you going to run the stock honda oil cooler, i did this on my F block</TD></TR></TABLE>


yes i plan on using the oem oil cooler to keep that oil nice and cool.
now back to the set up.now that i have the bottom end licked we move
on to the head.i will be doing a few tricks here as well but want to make sure they get done before i mention them.i am going to run 1mm over on both int.
and exh. springs retainers type-s cams maybe others depending.

i am running a str pro drag manifold w/a direct port pro race fogger
set up.the set up has 2 fuel pumps one for turbo "1k hp sx " and a
wally 255 forced induction for the fogger set up,both have adj's regulators

here are some more pics.i also did a mock up and you will flip
out when you see a side view believe me.





here is a mock up only of what she will look like in the car



are you ready for the side view LOOK AT THIS..



i will keep this thread posted on my progress

s_havinga

Hey prelittlelude, I have read this entire thread at least twice and have most of the parts to try this out. the only thing I am still blurry on is the custom plugs that have to be built, any possibility you have the pics or can gointo some more detail on how the work, also, you used an F23 gasket do you still think that is the best choice? please let me know and I am sure I will be posting for help throughout my build process.
Thanx Stephen

prelittlelude

well the plugs can be made by a machine shop or at home. if you want to see pictures looking thru my thread just replace the.ne.client2.attbi.com with the.hsd1.ma.comcast.net and the pictures should all work

the idea is just to plug up the drain holes so that oil doesn't go down them.. the pictures all all up on the new server i just haven't had time to go thru every post and change the URLs. you can really use anything you want to plug the ports, its just gravity fed drainage. some people have just shoved a bolt in with hondabond and that works too. i just used 2 peice of metal and ground groves for orings, then pressed them in and ground themflat

RMS

this is a set i made for mine.
somewhere i saved all the dimensions in case anyone was interested. lmk and i'll look for them.

1700anddroping

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this is a set i made for mine.
somewhere i saved all the dimensions in case anyone was interested. lmk and i'll look for them.</TD></TR></TABLE>


those look good...what did they cost you to have made.i for got to say
in my last couple of posts on this thread.that i do not run the bal.shafts
and the girdle is plugged off.the only thing that gets oil is the rods,mains
head.


harv