15" wheels vs. 16" wheels, for eg civic?
10-21-2003, 01:40 AM
#76
Honda-Tech Member
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Tornado Alley, IL, USA
Posts: 1,059
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like
on
1 Post
Re: 15" wheels vs. 16" wheels, for eg civic? (AutoEK)
Here's a pic of my EG w/ 16's. 16's look way better. 15's perform better.
http://www.jdmcivic.com/photop...age=1
http://www.jdmcivic.com/photop...age=1
http://www.jdmcivic.com/photop...age=1
http://www.jdmcivic.com/photop...age=1
10-21-2003, 04:57 AM
#77
Honda-Tech Member
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Toronto, Canada currently residing in ATL, GA, USA
Posts: 4,675
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: (nonsense)
CE28N's.
I went from a 15 to a 16 and I won't go back. The only thing that sux is the lack of good tire selection for a good price.
I went from a 15 to a 16 and I won't go back. The only thing that sux is the lack of good tire selection for a good price.
10-21-2003, 12:51 PM
#78
Junior Member
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Glassport, PA, USA
Posts: 464
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: (Mr Milano)
Ok so a 2 inch round ball sitting on a flat surface, has the same amount of contact patch as a 20 foot round ball.
If you dont belive me take alittle ball and paint it,then it roll. Then take a bigger ball do the same the bigger ball will leave more paint on the ground as it rolls.
If you dont belive me take alittle ball and paint it,then it roll. Then take a bigger ball do the same the bigger ball will leave more paint on the ground as it rolls.
10-21-2003, 01:07 PM
#79
Who?
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: NJ
Posts: 4,910
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: (Eee Pee)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Eee Pee »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thirteens!! with the smallest tire you can find.
</TD></TR></TABLE>
Better gearing for the D series?
</TD></TR></TABLE>
Better gearing for the D series?
10-21-2003, 01:11 PM
#80
a/k/a Jomo
Join Date: Jan 2002
Posts: 6,275
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: (Mattamotor)
:sigh: That's the worst analogy I've ever heard. We aren't talking about sphere's here. We are talking about tires. a 225mm wide tire is a 225mm wide tire. Just because the hole in the center is a diffent size doesn't mean anything.
10-21-2003, 01:55 PM
#81
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
Re: (Mattamotor)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mattamotor »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ok so a 2 inch round ball sitting on a flat surface, has the same amount of contact patch as a 20 foot round ball.
If you dont belive me take alittle ball and paint it,then it roll. Then take a bigger ball do the same the bigger ball will leave more paint on the ground as it rolls.</TD></TR></TABLE>
yeah uh man, your talking about spheres,
tires/wheels are cylinders
If you dont belive me take alittle ball and paint it,then it roll. Then take a bigger ball do the same the bigger ball will leave more paint on the ground as it rolls.</TD></TR></TABLE>
yeah uh man, your talking about spheres,
tires/wheels are cylinders
10-21-2003, 02:54 PM
#82
Honda-Tech Member
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 4,167
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: (Mr Milano)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mr Milano »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">:sigh: That's the worst analogy I've ever heard. We aren't talking about sphere's here. We are talking about tires. a 225mm wide tire is a 225mm wide tire. Just because the hole in the center is a diffent size doesn't mean anything. </TD></TR></TABLE>
true you have to look at the overall diameter of the tire . . .
225 45 15 = ~22.9" diameter
225 40 16 = ~23.1" diameter
the footprint difference is so minor it's not worth mentioning. Now if you do run a 225 45 13 and compare it to a 225 45 15 it's going to be different, but who the hell would run a 225 45 13?
BTW for sh*ts and giggles:
225 45 13 = ~21" diameter
true you have to look at the overall diameter of the tire . . .
225 45 15 = ~22.9" diameter
225 40 16 = ~23.1" diameter
the footprint difference is so minor it's not worth mentioning. Now if you do run a 225 45 13 and compare it to a 225 45 15 it's going to be different, but who the hell would run a 225 45 13?
BTW for sh*ts and giggles:
225 45 13 = ~21" diameter
10-21-2003, 04:21 PM
#83
Junior Member
Join Date: May 2003
Location: I sleep in a drawer
Posts: 285
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: 15" wheels vs. 16" wheels, for eg civic? (Apex i ITR)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Apex i ITR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
WilWOod brakes with WilWood 12.5 rotors.
Wheels are +43 offset I believe (I gotta double check it could be +45) and the brakes barley clear (wheels design plays a small part in fitment and 16's with these brakes).</TD></TR></TABLE>
Thanks bro. Much appreciated. All bustin' aside, you make a good point regarding brake clearance, which is something I don't think a lotta peeps take into consideration when selecting wheel size. Props on the friendly family oriented avatar too.
WilWOod brakes with WilWood 12.5 rotors.
Wheels are +43 offset I believe (I gotta double check it could be +45) and the brakes barley clear (wheels design plays a small part in fitment and 16's with these brakes).</TD></TR></TABLE>
Thanks bro. Much appreciated. All bustin' aside, you make a good point regarding brake clearance, which is something I don't think a lotta peeps take into consideration when selecting wheel size. Props on the friendly family oriented avatar too.
10-22-2003, 06:53 AM
#85
a/k/a Jomo
Join Date: Jan 2002
Posts: 6,275
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: (Mattamotor)
Ok. Just to make sure everyone understands let me brake this down.
On a 225/45/15 for example. 225 is the width of the tire in mm. 45 is "aspect ratio". Basically whatever this is is a percentage of the width. So in this case the sidewall of the tire is 45% of the width (225). So basically this tire has a sidewall of 101.25mm's. The last number is obviously the rim diameter. So the last number and the middle number is going to negate the the overal height and diameter of the tire.
Now a 225mm tire is a 225mm tire. What's going to change this is rim width. A 225 tire on a 15x6 rim vs a 15x8 going to change somewhat. Same as a 225 tire on a 13x6 vs a 13x8. But you take 2 8" wide rims one 13 and one 15 and put a 225 tire on them, contact patch is the same.
Picture a cylinder. A doughnut if you will for easier to imagine. Just because you cut that center hole out and make it a little bigger, doesn't mean the width changes.
On a 225/45/15 for example. 225 is the width of the tire in mm. 45 is "aspect ratio". Basically whatever this is is a percentage of the width. So in this case the sidewall of the tire is 45% of the width (225). So basically this tire has a sidewall of 101.25mm's. The last number is obviously the rim diameter. So the last number and the middle number is going to negate the the overal height and diameter of the tire.
Now a 225mm tire is a 225mm tire. What's going to change this is rim width. A 225 tire on a 15x6 rim vs a 15x8 going to change somewhat. Same as a 225 tire on a 13x6 vs a 13x8. But you take 2 8" wide rims one 13 and one 15 and put a 225 tire on them, contact patch is the same.
Picture a cylinder. A doughnut if you will for easier to imagine. Just because you cut that center hole out and make it a little bigger, doesn't mean the width changes.
10-22-2003, 06:59 AM
#86
Honda-Tech Member
What I have gathered over my few years of reading threads like this is the performance really isn't an issue. The 16" will have a nicer sidewall profile while the 15" is lighter, they basically cancel out.
I'd stick with 15" simply for the amount of tires available at a good price.
I'd stick with 15" simply for the amount of tires available at a good price.
10-22-2003, 07:21 AM
#87
New User
Join Date: Oct 2001
Posts: 692
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: (zer0_2_6ixty)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by zer0_2_6ixty »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i just ordered my 16" bronze rota c10's..i'm gonna go w/ a 205/45/16 tire. i think 16's look better,but 15'a are great for performance...i race every now and then,but not really hardcore,so i decided to sell my heavy as 17's and get some nice 16's 
i like 15's and 16' though....i got my 16's for $465 shipped...which is only $15 more that 15's so i said why not.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Are you sure? I also wanted to buy a set of bronze 16" c10's, but the price was $500 shipped. Where did you buy yours from?
i like 15's and 16' though....i got my 16's for $465 shipped...which is only $15 more that 15's so i said why not.</TD></TR></TABLE>Are you sure? I also wanted to buy a set of bronze 16" c10's, but the price was $500 shipped. Where did you buy yours from?
10-22-2003, 07:25 AM
#88
Honda-Tech Member
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Toronto, Canada currently residing in ATL, GA, USA
Posts: 4,675
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: 15" wheels vs. 16" wheels, for eg civic? (Debaser)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Debaser »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Thanks bro. Much appreciated. All bustin' aside, you make a good point regarding brake clearance, which is something I don't think a lotta peeps take into consideration when selecting wheel size. Props on the friendly family oriented avatar too.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Thanks.
Maybe the dick that had a comment about me saying something about my brakes will lay off policing the internet.....
Thanks bro. Much appreciated. All bustin' aside, you make a good point regarding brake clearance, which is something I don't think a lotta peeps take into consideration when selecting wheel size. Props on the friendly family oriented avatar too.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Thanks.
Maybe the dick that had a comment about me saying something about my brakes will lay off policing the internet.....
10-22-2003, 02:30 PM
#90
Honda-Tech Member
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 4,167
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: (Mr Milano)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mr Milano »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> But you take 2 8" wide rims one 13 and one 15 and put a 225 tire on them, contact patch is the same.</TD></TR></TABLE>
only if you adjust he aspect ratio accordingly right. Think about it his example was 225 45 13 vs. 225 45 15
width is the same 225mm
aspect ratio is the same 101.25mm (~4")
hole is different 13" vs. 15"
so here's how it stacks up:
top of tire to rim = 4"
rim = 13" (or 15")
bottom of rim to where tire contacts road = 4"
Overall diameter of 225 45 13 = 21"
Overall diameter of 225 45 15 = 23"
That's why you change the aspect ratio so you'll have wider sidewall (or else you'll have a bigger donut)
so in order to be even the tires would have to be 225 45 15 (23") and 225 55 13 (22.75")
only if you adjust he aspect ratio accordingly right. Think about it his example was 225 45 13 vs. 225 45 15
width is the same 225mm
aspect ratio is the same 101.25mm (~4")
hole is different 13" vs. 15"
so here's how it stacks up:
top of tire to rim = 4"
rim = 13" (or 15")
bottom of rim to where tire contacts road = 4"
Overall diameter of 225 45 13 = 21"
Overall diameter of 225 45 15 = 23"
That's why you change the aspect ratio so you'll have wider sidewall (or else you'll have a bigger donut)
so in order to be even the tires would have to be 225 45 15 (23") and 225 55 13 (22.75")
10-22-2003, 03:22 PM
#91
a/k/a Jomo
Join Date: Jan 2002
Posts: 6,275
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: (nonsense)
That's just overall diameter. That has absolutley NOTHING to do with the width. Let's say I take two 13" tires. One 225/40/13 and one 225/45/13. Contact patch is the same. However the overall diameter is differnt due to differnt sidewall sizes. I.E. better gearing on the 225/40 for better accleeration. NOT contact patch.
10-22-2003, 03:41 PM
#92
Honda-Tech Member
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 4,167
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: (Mr Milano)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mr Milano »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That's just overall diameter. That has absolutley NOTHING to do with the width. Let's say I take two 13" tires. One 225/40/13 and one 225/45/13. Contact patch is the same. However the overall diameter is differnt due to differnt sidewall sizes. I.E. better gearing on the 225/40 for better accleeration. NOT contact patch.</TD></TR></TABLE>
no that's wrong . . . contact patch is the same width, but since the overall diameter is different then the lenth of the contact patch is slighlty different. The contact patch is rectangular based on width of the tire and overall diameter
here: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/...t.htm
no that's wrong . . . contact patch is the same width, but since the overall diameter is different then the lenth of the contact patch is slighlty different. The contact patch is rectangular based on width of the tire and overall diameter
here: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/...t.htm
10-22-2003, 09:45 PM
#94
Honda-Tech Member
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: United States
Posts: 1,001
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: (Tokyo_X-treme_Racer)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tokyo_X-treme_Racer »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How much does a new set of 205/45/16 tires cost? Planning on buying 16's. </TD></TR></TABLE>
How much does a new Honda cost?
Answer: it depends which model you get.
Click here for the tires available in that size:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/...HC_=4
How much does a new Honda cost?
Answer: it depends which model you get.
Click here for the tires available in that size:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/...HC_=4
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
rxmotors
Wheels, Tires, Brakes, and Suspension
2
09-09-2008 03:39 PM
Dynamix
Acura Integra Type-R
27
04-15-2003 12:17 AM
