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Fuster_Cluck · 04-09-2003, 09:46 PM

I went to install the shift linkage today on my Eg / GSR hybrid and the damn thing is about half-way in. I used the old pin I took out the Cx since it looked exactly like the new GSR one I bought and was NOT mushroomed from when I beat it out with the socket extension.

Anyhow, it's a little f**ked (mushroomed) from where I tried to beat it in. I'm probably going to remove it in the morning and if you guys have any tips install the new pin afterwards.

It was a "bitch" getting it out, but getting it back in seems to be a "whore"

I'm just hoping someone has done this enough times and maybe has a trick you can share

Thanks!

PS <> Will I ever have to remove this thing? Yeah, I'm sure if I blow the motor or the tranny gets ruined I'll have to remove the shift linkage. But, I've read where people have pulled the motor with the shift linkage attached. Should I just beat the damn thing in if worst comes to worst?

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pbomers · 04-09-2003, 10:14 PM

OMG...i thought my friends and i were the only people that called it the "bitch pin."

only advice i can give ya is try and find a punch that is the right size. my dad happen to have one that was perfect.

PauL

Malachi · 04-09-2003, 10:17 PM

got mine out with a punch and a 15 lbs sledge hammer.

Fuster_Cluck · 04-09-2003, 10:23 PM

Helms (or I read it somewhere) says an 8mm punch. I'm going to pick one up in the morning. Does this fit perfectly with the pin which will NOT mushroom the end?

I've got the 4lb hammer ready to go

drunknbass · 04-09-2003, 10:25 PM

if you have the right size punch (honda actually has a special little tool) the pin pops out easy as pie

Fuster_Cluck · 04-09-2003, 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drunknbass

if you have the right size punch (honda actually has a special little tool) the pin pops out easy as pie

Actually, I was asking if there are any tricks to put it back in.

I've already took it out when I removed the Cx motor. Need to put it in the GSR

Nameless RB26 · 04-09-2003, 10:31 PM

There isn't really any tricks, maybe some WD-40, which is what I used. Once you get it started however, you can back off and just wale on it.

Fuster_Cluck · 04-09-2003, 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nameless EJ6

There isn't really any tricks, maybe some WD-40, which is what I used. Once you get it started however, you can back off and just wale on it.

Probably good advice there

I'm going to soak it from the top side and let it drip down good and get it all lubed then just pound that bitch in there with the sledge and an 8mm punch

BoM · 04-09-2003, 10:54 PM

i used a threaded skrew, and just hammered it in and out.
took like 3 swings with a hammer.

careawholelot · 04-09-2003, 11:15 PM

damn i hate the bitch pin. it was the hardest part of my swap i could not get that shit out. but getting it in was pretty easy for me, i just held it by to of my fingers and carefully hit it with a hammer to were it would stay in the hole without me using my fingers then i got a piece of 2x4 and laid it flat on the pin and just beat it 2-3 times with a hammer went in like a charm.

X2BOARD · 04-09-2003, 11:24 PM

When you do it enuff times... it even becomes easy with a phillips head...lol

An 8mm punch is what to use to make it simple... and you should be able to do it w/ a regular hammer, as long as the car is high enuff to get a decent back swing.

Step #1) Coat it lightly w/ some oil

Just get it wedged in and tap it with the broadside of the hammer.

You should only need the punch once it's 1/2 way in or more.

A trick ? Once wedged in, you can tap the edges of the pin to help it along, but you gotta be accurate.

X2 (Bitch Pin Masta)

Downey · 04-09-2003, 11:33 PM

hammer and a center punch works well for me.

Shawn C · 04-10-2003, 12:08 AM

ha ha, i cussed that damn thing until i threw it into the neighbor's yard. i ended up using a bolt and locknut w/loctite (red) that was the perfect diameter. i also pulled the engine with the linkage attached. it was a whore. i had to jack the front of the car up like 2 ft, then pull out the engine. i felt like such a dumbass. now all engines go in from underneath. 2 strong people can lift up the front of a honda without an engine in it. go get some

and good luck

ZCHF · 04-10-2003, 09:13 AM

i stuck a fireplace poker(you know, the one with the pointy end and little curvinglip) down the top of my engine and hit it with a sledgehammer and it bent the **** out of the poker but still came out. Victory

Tony Starks · 04-10-2003, 11:38 AM

Get underneath the car and use a phillips head to poke at the pin and use hammer to beat the shit out of the screwdriver. This was the most difficult part of my swap.

Fuster_Cluck · 04-10-2003, 12:10 PM

Here's how it sits as of now. I lubed it up with WD40 and hit it a few times with a sledge hammer and it did NOTHING!

I'll try again Saturday when I plan to finish the swap and fire the motor up.

94HybridEX · 04-10-2003, 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hybrid93Hatch

PS <> Will I ever have to remove this thing? Yeah, I'm sure if I blow the motor or the tranny gets ruined I'll have to remove the shift linkage. But, I've read where people have pulled the motor with the shift linkage attached. Should I just beat the damn thing in if worst comes to worst?

I removed my old D16 and tranny with the linkage attached. It wasn't a pain at all. Shouldn't be too hard installing a motor with the linkage attached.

fcuked · 04-10-2003, 01:45 PM

FYI

I've done 3 swaps already and i never took the shifter linkage out. Take one of the linkages out, the easier one nad it will give you more slack. Also if you are doing a swap you can always put the motor under the car and put it up or when dropping it in you can still clear the engine bay with the shifter linkage as long as one of them is disconnected.

rainmanEK · 04-10-2003, 01:54 PM

1/4" Punch Works Great!

Also Any 1/4" Bolt can work too If you want to go cheap!

Make sure you hold hand on back side, Being the PIN can Fly out on the last hit and you WIll NEVER FIND IT!!

Eric

youngkow · 04-10-2003, 02:27 PM

Best way to put it in is to use a channel lock plier. As long as its big enough, you'll get good leverage to squeeze it in. If you can't picture it, I'll try and draw a pic. Let me know how it works out.

@irborne · 04-28-2003, 03:57 PM

i hate that "bitch pin" more than anything. i'll pull the motor w/ one main linkage arm. arrg.

RSZero1 · 04-28-2003, 04:14 PM

you can also use a 12mm bolt, like from a throttle body, and tap it in or out with one, fits perfect. When pounding it back in, make sure you have a thin screwdriver or something you can push thru the pin to make sure it is lined up before you start pounding away, sometimes the linkage will move a little and you think it's going in, but it's really just hitting next to the hole in the linkage...

transmission11 · 04-28-2003, 04:17 PM

if its mushroomed, shave a little of the mushroomed part off till it fits nicely

madman604 · 04-29-2003, 03:09 PM

here's a tip. make sure the holes line up

sounds stupid, but i did it

after teh first whack it moved, everyother wack just damaged the fit more

honda shoulda just stuck a fuggin bolt in there

b2023 · 04-29-2003, 03:18 PM

use a punch tool that will be the same width of the pin.... or u can use the bolt that is used for hooking the header and cat-converter together.. it s the same size as the pin.

04-09-2003, 10:14 PM	#2
pbomers Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Grand Rapids, MI, USA Posts: 539	Re: Installing the "bitch pin" (shift linkage at tranny), Best way? (Hybrid93Hatch) OMG...i thought my friends and i were the only people that called it the "bitch pin." only advice i can give ya is try and find a punch that is the right size. my dad happen to have one that was perfect. PauL __________________ D70 & D70s \| pbomers.com \| flickr \| 075

04-09-2003, 10:17 PM	#3
Malachi Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: IN, USA Posts: 1,238	Re: Installing the "bitch pin" (shift linkage at tranny), Best way? (Hybrid93Hatch) got mine out with a punch and a 15 lbs sledge hammer.

04-09-2003, 10:23 PM	#4
Fuster_Cluck Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: ATL to SAV to ORL, USA Posts: 7,480	Re: Installing the "bitch pin" (Malachi) Helms (or I read it somewhere) says an 8mm punch. I'm going to pick one up in the morning. Does this fit perfectly with the pin which will NOT mushroom the end? I've got the 4lb hammer ready to go __________________ Pelican 1624 containing: 2 Gripped Canon 50D's, XT, XTi & XSi ♥ 10-22mm ♥ (2) - 18-55mm ♥ (2) - 50mm f/1.8 ♥ 24-105mm f/4L IS ♥ 70-200mm f/2.8L IS

04-09-2003, 10:25 PM	#5
drunknbass Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: newport beach, ca Posts: 2,378	Re: Installing the "bitch pin" (Hybrid93Hatch) if you have the right size punch (honda actually has a special little tool) the pin pops out easy as pie

04-09-2003, 10:31 PM	#7
Nameless RB26 Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: WA Posts: 4,794	Re: Installing the "bitch pin" (Hybrid93Hatch) There isn't really any tricks, maybe some WD-40, which is what I used. Once you get it started however, you can back off and just wale on it. __________________ 89' 240sx

04-09-2003, 10:54 PM	#9
BoM Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: South Jersey, USA Posts: 3,199	Re: Installing the "bitch pin" (Hybrid93Hatch) i used a threaded skrew, and just hammered it in and out. took like 3 swings with a hammer. __________________ 03' Evolving into a money pit Join my Survey Plan. Take Surveys for 6 Dollars each.

04-09-2003, 11:15 PM	#10
careawholelot Join Date: May 2002 Location: goldenstate heavywieght, ca, us Posts: 2,407	Re: Installing the "bitch pin" (BoM) damn i hate the bitch pin. it was the hardest part of my swap i could not get that shit out. but getting it in was pretty easy for me, i just held it by to of my fingers and carefully hit it with a hammer to were it would stay in the hole without me using my fingers then i got a piece of 2x4 and laid it flat on the pin and just beat it 2-3 times with a hammer went in like a charm. __________________ Hella 3rd gear vtec yo you alllll ready know!!! check out best websites in tha world ma ers meatspin.com lemonparty.org hai2u.com

04-09-2003, 11:24 PM	#11
X2BOARD Member 1994 Acura Integra Join Date: May 2001 Location: Trinidad, W.I. Posts: 5,015	When you do it enuff times... it even becomes easy with a phillips head...lol An 8mm punch is what to use to make it simple... and you should be able to do it w/ a regular hammer, as long as the car is high enuff to get a decent back swing. Step #1) Coat it lightly w/ some oil Just get it wedged in and tap it with the broadside of the hammer. You should only need the punch once it's 1/2 way in or more. A trick ? Once wedged in, you can tap the edges of the pin to help it along, but you gotta be accurate. X2 (Bitch Pin Masta) __________________ Now :The XClone - Fastest LHD Honda in Trindad & Tobago. Then: 97 DB8- Built LSVT@12Psi - The MAGIC SHOW * R.I.P. 09-16-02* Why: "Luck can hit you like a Volvo....", X2 Always: I'd rather be turbo... 1993 DX Hatch - GSR powered, some parts are STILL stock http://images.honda-tech.com/set1/smile/emsmilep.gif

04-09-2003, 11:33 PM	#12
Downey Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Mountain View Posts: 3,702	Re: Installing the "bitch pin" (shift linkage at tranny), Best way? (Hybrid93Hatch) hammer and a center punch works well for me. __________________ Redstone Motors - Sales & Auto Repair/Performance 727 W. Evelyn Ave Mountain View, CA 94901 (650) 967-2808

04-10-2003, 12:08 AM	#13
Shawn C In The Garage 2001 Acura Integra Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Suzuka, Alabama Posts: 4,057	Re: Installing the "bitch pin" (Downey) ha ha, i cussed that damn thing until i threw it into the neighbor's yard. i ended up using a bolt and locknut w/loctite (red) that was the perfect diameter. i also pulled the engine with the linkage attached. it was a whore. i had to jack the front of the car up like 2 ft, then pull out the engine. i felt like such a dumbass. now all engines go in from underneath. 2 strong people can lift up the front of a honda without an engine in it. go get some and good luck __________________ *dAng!* '01 DC231 #310

04-10-2003, 11:38 AM	#15
Tony Starks Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Central, NJ Posts: 1,735	Re: Installing the "bitch pin" (ZCHF) Get underneath the car and use a phillips head to poke at the pin and use hammer to beat the shit out of the screwdriver. This was the most difficult part of my swap. __________________ EK 12:1 CTR STOLEN 1/7/08. I PROMISE YOU ONE IN YOUR HEAD IF I FIND YOU K6 GSXR 600

04-10-2003, 12:10 PM	#16
Fuster_Cluck Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: ATL to SAV to ORL, USA Posts: 7,480	Re: Installing the "bitch pin" (Tony Starks) Here's how it sits as of now. I lubed it up with WD40 and hit it a few times with a sledge hammer and it did NOTHING! I'll try again Saturday when I plan to finish the swap and fire the motor up. __________________ Pelican 1624 containing: 2 Gripped Canon 50D's, XT, XTi & XSi ♥ 10-22mm ♥ (2) - 18-55mm ♥ (2) - 50mm f/1.8 ♥ 24-105mm f/4L IS ♥ 70-200mm f/2.8L IS

04-10-2003, 01:45 PM	#18
fcuked Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: South Central Posts: 1,146	Re: Installing the "bitch pin" (94HybridEX) FYI I've done 3 swaps already and i never took the shifter linkage out. Take one of the linkages out, the easier one nad it will give you more slack. Also if you are doing a swap you can always put the motor under the car and put it up or when dropping it in you can still clear the engine bay with the shifter linkage as long as one of them is disconnected.

04-10-2003, 01:54 PM	#19
rainmanEK big strong guy Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: LUTZ, fl, usa Posts: 3,455	Re: Installing the "bitch pin" (Junior.) 1/4" Punch Works Great! Also Any 1/4" Bolt can work too If you want to go cheap! Make sure you hold hand on back side, Being the PIN can Fly out on the last hit and you WIll NEVER FIND IT!! Eric __________________ http://www.Kenji211.com (Kenji is the Man) 11.202@127 1985 Honda Spree (Killin Spree) 1990 Miata (Awaiting 302ci Beast) 2004 Nissan Titan (Bike Hauler) 2000 Civic SI (sold) 1996 HB (Sold) 2003 ZX6R 636 (Track Whore) "Fitness Forum All-Star"

04-10-2003, 02:27 PM	#20
youngkow Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Burbs, IL, USA Posts: 834	Re: Installing the "bitch pin" (Hybrid93Hatch) Best way to put it in is to use a channel lock plier. As long as its big enough, you'll get good leverage to squeeze it in. If you can't picture it, I'll try and draw a pic. Let me know how it works out. __________________ Forced to get out.........selling all of my goods.

04-28-2003, 03:57 PM	#21
@irborne Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: TEXAS Posts: 998	Re: Installing the "bitch pin" (Junior.) i hate that "bitch pin" more than anything. i'll pull the motor w/ one main linkage arm. arrg.

04-28-2003, 04:14 PM	#22
RSZero1 Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA, USA Posts: 2,667	Re: Installing the "bitch pin" (@irborne) you can also use a 12mm bolt, like from a throttle body, and tap it in or out with one, fits perfect. When pounding it back in, make sure you have a thin screwdriver or something you can push thru the pin to make sure it is lined up before you start pounding away, sometimes the linkage will move a little and you think it's going in, but it's really just hitting next to the hole in the linkage... __________________ *Parts ForSale* Updated as of 7/24/09 Billy Mays Tested, Vince Approved! (RIP Billy)

04-28-2003, 04:17 PM	#23
transmission11 Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: northport, NY, u.s Posts: 156	Re: Installing the "bitch pin" (shift linkage at tranny), Best way? (Hybrid93Hatch) if its mushroomed, shave a little of the mushroomed part off till it fits nicely __________________ i once bit a mans ear off....im not proud of it......but it got me out of many a jam- Harry Carrey

04-29-2003, 03:09 PM	#24
madman604 Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Dude Wheres My Avatar, ItsCold Posts: 1,023	Re: Installing the "bitch pin" (transmission11) here's a tip. make sure the holes line up sounds stupid, but i did it after teh first whack it moved, everyother wack just damaged the fit more honda shoulda just stuck a fuggin bolt in there __________________ 93 EJ coupe Si, 95 JDM B18C, Greddy turbo kit - 8 Psi, Trust type 31 intercooler, Blitz DD BOV, Walboro pump, Hondata S200 w/boost, Hondata intake gasket, RC 550cc injectors, B&M FPR, NGK BKR7E plugs gapped at .028, Skunk 2 camgears, ACT street clutch, 10 lb OEM flywheel. 188WHP 13.5 @ 105mph Toyo T1S My Ride <FONT COLOR="blue">Still looking for a P54 AC bracket....</FONT>

04-29-2003, 03:18 PM	#25
b2023 Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 14	Re: Installing the "bitch pin" (shift linkage at tranny), Best way? (Hybrid93Hatch) use a punch tool that will be the same width of the pin.... or u can use the bolt that is used for hooking the header and cat-converter together.. it s the same size as the pin.

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