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Old 04-12-2014, 01:55 PM
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Driving home and I start to.hear this screeching/scratchin noise it got.worse when I.pressed the clutch in. Fast forward 20 mins i get smoke.coming from the bay the harness touching the start was melting(didn't melt threw) but now the car won't start just a click the e brake light came on for some.reason.also. On my.phone so pls forgive the spelling
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guys help ! this is strange as **** !!
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it had to have shorted out inside. Get a new one and call it a day.
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it had to have shorted out inside. Get a new one and call it a day.
That's what I was thinking but how ? seems odd I've never seen a post about it. the ground was kinda loose but how can the scraping be explained ?
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bump HOW did this happen ? all I did was smash into a few pot holes. I noticed the ground wire was a bit loose how can I avoid this next time.
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How did it shift when you pressed in the clutch? Did you recent do a clutch job? You don't have a cable tranny do you? It could be your throw out bearing giving out.

You should probably redo the wires that got melted just in case.

You should most def secure all your grounds wires and as fcm would say, redo all your grounds. If your ground cable was loose, your engine could've just been running on your alternator. Does it start now though?
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How did it shift when you pressed in the clutch? Did you recent do a clutch job? You don't have a cable tranny do you? It could be your throw out bearing giving out.

You should probably redo the wires that got melted just in case.

You should most def secure all your grounds wires and as fcm would say, redo all your grounds. If your ground cable was loose, your engine could've just been running on your alternator. Does it start now though?
Shifted just fine yah clutch(competition clutch brand) has not even 100 km's in it yet hydro trans. no actual wires got melted I saved it just in time yah going to do that. No it primes and everything just clicks when I turn it to ignition 3(III) the started was EXTREMLY hot so I think it's fried.
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Shifted just fine yah clutch(competition clutch brand) has not even 100 km's in it yet hydro trans. no actual wires got melted I saved it just in time yah going to do that. No it primes and everything just clicks when I turn it to ignition 3(III) the started was EXTREMLY hot so I think it's fried.
Hmm and the screeching just started happening? Did you install it yourself? Hmm not sure if the starter should be extremely hot. Possible your starter was in contact with your flywheel the entire time you were driving. I would most def take the starter off and check the teeth on your starter and flywheel.

You should try push starting just to see if it starts. And you can also try jump starting it just to see if your battery is at fault, but most def after you inspect it.
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Originally Posted by nicknack25
Hmm and the screeching just started happening? Did you install it yourself? Hmm not sure if the starter should be extremely hot. Possible your starter was in contact with your flywheel the entire time you were driving. I would most def take the starter off and check the teeth on your starter and flywheel.

You should try push starting just to see if it starts. And you can also try jump starting it just to see if your battery is at fault, but most def after you inspect it.
It started after I hit several pot holes, I'm not new to installing clutches I had the trans it's self off that's it. no where down hill to try that the only ground that was loose was the one on the starter it's self, will try and jump the battery and see what happens.
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Default Re: starter overheated while driving wtf

Internal short in starter is all it can be.

The only other possibility is the starter motor solenoid stuck engaged, can be hard to tell if starter is still engaged if noise floor is high, [engine/exhaust/road/stereo noise].

As mentioned, replace the starter and repair "melted" wiring and call it a dy. 94
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Internal short in starter is all it can be.

The only other possibility is the starter motor solenoid stuck engaged, can be hard to tell if starter is still engaged if noise floor is high, [engine/exhaust/road/stereo noise].

As mentioned, replace the starter and repair "melted" wiring and call it a dy. 94
when I heard the noise it sounded like a dust shield rubbing on the rotor so I ignored it, but took the car easy. never thought it would be the starter till I smelt burning saved the harness in time but will be wrapping it just to be safe. thanks.
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Default Re: starter overheated while driving wtf

Originally Posted by fcm
Internal short in starter is all it can be.

The only other possibility is the starter motor solenoid stuck engaged, can be hard to tell if starter is still engaged if noise floor is high, [engine/exhaust/road/stereo noise].

As mentioned, replace the starter and repair "melted" wiring and call it a dy. 94
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It sounds like something failed internally. I'm interested to know if the solenoid failed and engaged the starter.
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It sounds like something failed internally. I'm interested to know if the solenoid failed and engaged the starter.
It may just be the solenoid, it would account for the noise, an engaged starter would/does sound like a dust shield rubbing against a rotor. 94
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Replaced the starter all is good now as for the old one...the starter gear it's self seemed fine and so did the ring gear but I'm going to be taking it apart tomorrow to see what happened. So strange I've never heard of this happening maybe it wasn't related to hitting the pot holes.
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I have, we have replaced both starters and solenoids with internal shorts. 94
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So is it just a random thing or did the pot holes play a part ? don't want to get another starter.
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The pot hole did not "cause" the problem, it may have "triggered" it. 94
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