FairlyImprudent

Just bought a d16z6 block for a good deal. I looked at it at home and realized it has two dipsticks. One where it's supposed to be. And one where the d16yxs are located. Which from what I read, means it has the d16yx oil pump. I don't know who's the dumbass who set that up.. Let's hope it doesn't have the y7/8 crank in it also...

So my question is, should I get a z6 oil pump? Or is it not a big deal to worry about? I plan on boosting this in the near future. And I don't know if I should worry about the oil pressure and this issue. I also found out the two pumps are near identical other than the dipstick. So I'm mostly just focusing on the factor of the two dipsticks

TravisBiggie

Pics for luls

NZXTInerTia

Well see, when you're going twice the speed. You need twice the dipstick.

dcmatt

iTrader: (7)

The y8 oil pump is horrible not the crank. My understanding is that's why the y7/8's were so prone to spinning a bearing.

grumblemarc

iTrader: (4)

Wrong. You understand backwards.

FairlyImprudent

I guess someone thought it would be a good idea to double check their oil lol. I'll upload a pic when I get home later today.

So is it a bad idea to boost with 2 dipsticks lol?

kyden

boost has nothing to do with a dipstick.

dcmatt

iTrader: (7)

Oh really? So the crank out of a z6 is better then a y8?

grumblemarc

iTrader: (4)

Absolutely.

Garage 808 Hatch

I did the opposite on my old vitara build. y7 block and a z6 pump. dip stick delete

4drEF

Both crank and oil pump aren't as good as the Z6.
The Y8 pump puts out about 30% less cfm - you can verify this in the shop manual.
The Y8 crank has one oil hole per journal while the Z6 crank has 2 oil holes per journal.

FairlyImprudent

Well then it looks I'll be getting a new pump. I'm feeling hesitant to check the crank lol.

And to the other response about dipsticks having no effect on turbos. I read something about the oil pressure with turbos and why I should be concerned about the dipstick. But there's no sense I can make of that. Now that's besides the point since I'll be getting a new one.

And I still intend on posting pictures when I can for amusement

allshowfxt

haha the fact that this had to be posted.

kyden

what does oil pressure have to do with a dipstick? the dipstick only has 1 purpose.

FairlyImprudent

No **** it only has one purpose lol. It still has to hold in the pressure though. I don't know why what I read said that about the dipstick and that it could be a problem. I just read it on this forum or d series so I had to ask

92cxyd

It would give ya options if your future plan includes running a turbo manifold that would make it hard impossible to check your oil.

If you have a good OEM y8 oil pump get it ported and that should work no need to buy another pump, unless damaged.

As for the crank if you are not build a 300bhp+ setup the y8 crank will work if you have a port y8 pump.

FairlyImprudent

Yeah I thought about that. I'll just have to wait and figure it out. I just don't like the thought of having two. And I haven't even had time to check the crank yet.

Here's the picture for laughs. Two dipsticks for one dipshit

Freemananana

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You probably get a lot of guys eyeing up your dipsticks.

xile6

Just tell them its twin dip lol

But yea looks like a y pump on a z6.

For those that are fighting the z6 has better oiling over the y motors. Case and point.

wantboost

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Y8 crank and pump suck. Ask me how I know.

Oil pump failed, spun every bearing even spun the cam in the head

bgdriver

It has a y series aluminum pan too then?

FairlyImprudent

Twin dip for twin turbo yo!

I swear I just read that somewhere yesterday. Literally just about the exact same phrase. Were they acl race bearings too? I could not imagine the feelings when taking apart the block to see that haha

Yeah. I suppose this means the oil pump goes with the oil pan? I never thought much of that when I saw it was a y pan. Wasn't worried though. I only paid $47 for the short block

FairlyImprudent

Not sure how important the bolts for the oil pump part. I have the absolute worst vocabulary memory. But yeah, half the oil pan studs were bolts. So I'm assuming a couple of them were from there.

The good news is I have a z6 crank

jimbo slice

Y8 pump needs y8 pan.

Z6 and d15's are interchangeable.

I think the y7 has a steel pan but is the same fitment as the y8.

FairlyImprudent

I wish the d15 pumps were interchangeable also. Well at least I have a pan to replace it with then