live4soccer7

I have received a harness from a guy because I'm going to be working on converting from manual to auto lock doors since my manual actuator are broke at the flipper switch. Anyways, I have an entire harness from a hatch (including fuse box).

It has the integrated control unit (ICU) on the back of the fuse box. How can I determine if this ICU has Intermittent Wiper functionality? My wiper "wand" is pretty toast and needs replacing, so I figured I would add some functionality while I was at it since it rains/snows in the NW a fair amount.

From my understanding I just need the new steering column switch/wand for the wipers and the ICU or entire fuse box. After that it should all bolt/plug in with the exception of maybe adding a wire or two (read they may already be in place though).

Thanks for any help/suggestions/opinions.

B_Swapped93

what car is the harness from ? don't think the ICU would affect the wipers in anyway. also afaik the vx/cx didn't could be wrong tho.

live4soccer7

I'm not quite sure what car the harness is from because I had purchased it quite some time back. I just talked with the guy I had purchased it from too and he can't recall.

If the ICU does not control the wiper behavior, do you know which module/relay does then? I had read a thread or two that was referring to the ICU for the intermittent wiper functionality.

live4soccer7

Here is one of the threads I read: http://www.honda-acura.net/forums/92...gen-hatch.html

Sorry to post from another forum. It simply came up when I was searching google. It seem fairly informative after the first half dozen posts when they actually started to figure out what was necessary.

B_Swapped93

well first off info on car ? hard to go much further.

live4soccer7

My apologies. I thought I had mentioned it in the first post, but I had lost it and retyped it.

The conversion is to happen in a 92 Civic VX hatchback.

angrysmileyface

Deschlong has a write up on how to do this, (Google can find it as well as looking up his user name here)

live4soccer7

Check this out. I'm pretty sure it is included in the ICU. Now how to tell if I have one with an intermittent wiper function or not. Anyone have a quick way to tell without having to pull out the multimeter or bench power supply?

live4soccer7

I believe he did it for the rear wiper though. I'm just looking for intermittent front wipers.

B_Swapped93

so does your car have intermittent wipers ? 2nd can you not just re-use your current icu ? 3rd if the car the harness came from is above a vx/cx then it will have this function

live4soccer7

My car is a VX and does NOT have intermittent wipers. They did not come with intermittent wipers. Some of the cars did. I'm about 90% sure that the dx and si did for sure. Don't know about the other models. I know the Vx doesn't though.

I can not use my icu because it doesn't have that functionality, from what I've been reading. The intermittent wiper models have a slightly different ICU (functionality wise). I believe it would drop right in the same spot though.

Last thing you mentioned. I do not know what year/model the harness came off of. It was a harness that includes power windows, power locks, cruise, etc... I simply wanted it for the power locks because I don't care about cruise or power windows. I would imagine that with all of these extra features the fusebox that came with the harness would have the intermittent wiper functionality, but this is what I want to find out for sure.

live4soccer7

I just looked up part numbers on http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com

I did a 92 and checked every single model civic. They all have the exact part number for the ICU: 38600-S01-A11


There is a civic model in the 92-95 that came with intermittent wipers, correct?

If this is the case then the only thing that I can think of that would need to be added/changed to gain functionality would be the wiper switch on the steering column and then adding an additional wire or two to the harness. I know the motors are all the same too.

Anyone else have any input/knowledge?

live4soccer7

Here is the location and pin out of the ICU

live4soccer7

the icu wiper schematic.

live4soccer7

the vx wiper switch

live4soccer7

the last bit that may be helpful.

The only thing I need to know is if there is any difference between the ICU units between the years.

angrysmileyface

Its possible its just a function of the switch, have you actually tried an intermittant switch without playing with the ICU?

live4soccer7

Perhaps someone may know the answer to this. Will the Wiper switch on the steering column from another model honda work (4dr civic, accord etc..)? Just wondering what the interchangeability is with this part.

live4soccer7

No, I have not. In the thread above that I listed a guy said he simply swapped them out and it didn't work.

live4soccer7

According to this ebay listing: http://www.ebay.com/itm/1997-98-99-2000-01-Honda-CR-V-CRV-Genuine-Wiper-Switch-35256-SR3-G11-/171092096983?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item27d5e237d7&vxp=mtr
They are found in: 1997 98 99 2000 01 Honda CR-V CRV as well. Interesting

live4soccer7

The mystery has been solved.

Even though hondaautomotiveparts.com has the exact same part number listed for each year on the ICU, this is not the case when they put them in.

Here is a picture of the Intermittent ICU Box that I have:



Here is a picture of the ICU box without intermittent wipers (my 92 vx). I was able to snake my phone up there and capture a picture of the ICU part number in my car. It is definitely a different model.




So you need the box with part number: 38600-S01-A11 or 38600-SR1-A11 (I would imagine they are the same). If anyone knows differently, please let me know. I'm in the process of getting a intermittent column switch, so I will be able to test.

Not the original one with 386000-SR1-A0

deschlong

iTrader: (8)

Actually, I recommend getting an ICU from a 96-00 Civic. It's a direct swap. Don't bother with an old 5th gen one. Then you will have Intermittent front wipers (after swapping in the correct washer switch), a lights-on indicator so you don't kill your batt, and by adding ONE wire, you will have combined wiper/washer operation (you spray your windshield, and your wipers make a couple passes automatically).

live4soccer7

Thanks for the info. Does it matter if it comes from a 2 door civic or not? How about the Wiper/Washer switch/wand? Does it it still come from the 5th gen hatch or does one from the 96-00 still work? Just trying to found out exactly which vehicles these parts need to come from.

ICU Box (any specific civic in 96-00)
Wiper Switch (still from old 5th gen or also from 96-00)

Thanks very much for your info deschlong. I have read through a bunch of your info and love the hatch!

deschlong

iTrader: (8)

No, won't matter which trim of Civic for the ICU. But, if you want to add the wiper/washer function, get it from a sedan or coupe - preferably one with power features - but ONLY because they already have the wire for this feature. While lower models have the same ICU, they don't have the added wire for this, so it makes installation slightly easier since you will want to grab the pigtail too.

As for the wiper switch, any from 1992-2000 will work. 96-00 will have different graphics on it than 92-95 but fitment is identical.

live4soccer7

I got an ICU box from a 97 coupe/sedan. I don't think it has that additional wire you were talking about. Which wire/pin is it exactly on the ICU and on the wiper switch that needs added for the washer/wiper combo?

Thank a ton everyone for the help. I'll add up a couple photos once I get it going of the wires.