b18a1 intermediate shaft/cv axles problem

viking-101 · 01-06-2012, 04:53 AM

i have a 88 crx si and i'm in the process of doing a b18b1 swap with a b18a1 trans. the transmission came from a 90 integra that has a b18a1 in it. Recently i ordered 90-93 integra axles for my car but while i was in the process of installing the driverside and for some weird reason it wouldnt fit into place. Has anybody ran into the same problem and if so how did you fix it?

N3va3vaSatisfi3d · 01-06-2012, 06:52 AM

Wouldn't fit into place where? You need to be more specific.

jlicrx · 01-06-2012, 07:39 AM

what intermediate shaft do you have? 90-93 or 94 and up?

viking-101 · 01-06-2012, 09:45 AM

Luckly after about 15 minutes of wiggleing it into i was able to get it in but i'm having trouble having the end of the axle fit into the hub.

ef yu · 01-06-2012, 12:24 PM

dont forget to remove the dust ring on the hub.

viking-101 · 01-06-2012, 03:12 PM

Do you have a picture of the what the dust ring looks like? Also how difficult is it to remove?

N3va3vaSatisfi3d · 01-06-2012, 04:30 PM

Screwdriver removes it (easy to pry out). It's a metal ring on the back side of the knuckle - on the hub area...

PS - Helps to search.

viking-101 · 01-06-2012, 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by N3va3vaSatisfi3d

Screwdriver removes it (easy to pry out). It's a metal ring on the back side of the knuckle - on the hub area...

PS - Helps to search.

Since I'm doing this swap would I have to upgrade the knuckles?

N3va3vaSatisfi3d · 01-07-2012, 08:29 AM

Yes.

viking-101 · 01-07-2012, 09:48 AM

I've looked over everything on the front hub on the car and i've come to a decision that i'm not sure it's a si hub. I['m gonna contact the previous owner and see if he switched them on another crx.

viking-101 · 01-07-2012, 11:50 AM

This is about as far as the axle will go into the hub.

Inside view of the axle in the hub

viking-101 · 01-07-2012, 12:47 PM

Well after cleaning off the hub and axle splines and counting all of the splines i found out that the splines on the crx hub is 23 and the spines on the axle is 26

. Now i'm at a major stand still. Would anybody know what i should do next to fix this problem?

ef yu · 01-07-2012, 01:31 PM

im not sure if the 88 si hubs are any different.... but it seems to me is that you have a Hf hub. HF hubs are smaller than the DX/SI. which is causing the problem.

Maybe the 88 SI are different?????
I have a 89 crx si and b series axle fits no problem.

Are you sure it is an SI? you would be surprise at how many ppl sell their crx/civic trying to pass it on as a SI to get that extra cash.

viking-101 · 01-07-2012, 03:05 PM

I've had a feeling in the back of my mind that the car is a hf which there is a high possbility it might be. Would any crx so or 90-93 integra hub fix the problem

ef yu · 01-07-2012, 03:42 PM

i've never used 90-93 integra hubs but i have read that it works. BUT it also makes the car have positive camber unless you have the car lowered then you would have nothing to worry about. Just get an alignment and it should be good.

What made you think your 88 crx was an SI? do you have a original sunroof? D16A6 engine? there is also the OEM rear sway bar. Any pics of the car? I'd like to see.

bradley · 01-07-2012, 04:12 PM

'88 CRX front hubs are identical and are like the HF hubs. Regardless of model. They also ALL have rear drums, where the 89-91 CRX Si has rear discs.

Your CRX would only be an Si if it has a factory sunroof.

Any CRX/Civic hubs will work, find you some 26 spline ones at a pull-a-part or something. DA ones work but are iffy/need something to install them, same with EG/EJ hubs but you REALLY need to search for a how to if you go with those, I know nothing about that.

1989-1991 CRX DX/Si hubs should work, 89-91 Civic DX/Si/LX/EX hubs should work.

viking-101 · 01-07-2012, 05:11 PM

The car does have factory sunroof. I think the previous owner swapped the hubs just to use on another car. The only crx around where I live is at a salvage yard in 3 town and it's an 88 si. But there are 2 da 90 integras there. Im gonna have to do alot of research to see if it could work.

Jockone · 01-07-2012, 05:30 PM

The 90 teggy knuckles will work to get the swap done for you and if you are not lowered you can get adjustable ball joint for the top to adjust your camber.

viking-101 · 01-07-2012, 08:06 PM

If 90's integra knuckles is the only thing that I need to make everything work how much camber would it be off by? The front springs one the car have been cut. The old owner wanted to do the rice way instead of buying coil overs or drop srpings

zrickety · 01-08-2012, 06:15 PM

DA (90-93) integra knuckles are a great upgrade. You should grab the 4040 prop valve, master cylinder and rear disc brakes while you're at it. The camber is not a big factor, I'm lowered just a little and the alignment was in spec.

viking-101 · 01-08-2012, 06:35 PM

I'll check around on ebay to see if the have some. If i can get the axles in i'll be home free than hopefully.

01-06-2012, 04:53 AM	#1
viking-101 Honda-Tech Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Bossier City, Louisiana Posts: 151 iTrader Rating: (0)	b18a1 intermediate shaft/cv axles problem i have a 88 crx si and i'm in the process of doing a b18b1 swap with a b18a1 trans. the transmission came from a 90 integra that has a b18a1 in it. Recently i ordered 90-93 integra axles for my car but while i was in the process of installing the driverside and for some weird reason it wouldnt fit into place. Has anybody ran into the same problem and if so how did you fix it?

01-06-2012, 07:39 AM	#3
jlicrx Honda-Tech Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: colorado springs, co, usa Posts: 5,089 iTrader Rating: (0)	Re: b18a1 intermediate shaft/cv axles problem what intermediate shaft do you have? 90-93 or 94 and up? __________________ ZCspeed Racing

01-06-2012, 09:45 AM	#4
viking-101 Honda-Tech Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Bossier City, Louisiana Posts: 151 iTrader Rating: (0)	Re: b18a1 intermediate shaft/cv axles problem Luckly after about 15 minutes of wiggleing it into i was able to get it in but i'm having trouble having the end of the axle fit into the hub.

01-06-2012, 12:24 PM	#5
ef yu Honda-Tech Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: May 2006 Location: in the land where we say hella. Posts: 1,872 iTrader Rating: (0)	Re: b18a1 intermediate shaft/cv axles problem dont forget to remove the dust ring on the hub. __________________ HI. these are things forsale. My 89 crx si commuter.

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viking-101 Honda-Tech Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Bossier City, Louisiana Posts: 151 iTrader Rating: (0)	Re: b18a1 intermediate shaft/cv axles problem Do you have a picture of the what the dust ring looks like? Also how difficult is it to remove?

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viking-101 Honda-Tech Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Bossier City, Louisiana Posts: 151 iTrader Rating: (0)	Re: b18a1 intermediate shaft/cv axles problem I've looked over everything on the front hub on the car and i've come to a decision that i'm not sure it's a si hub. I['m gonna contact the previous owner and see if he switched them on another crx.

01-07-2012, 11:50 AM	#11
viking-101 Honda-Tech Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Bossier City, Louisiana Posts: 151 iTrader Rating: (0)	Re: b18a1 intermediate shaft/cv axles problem This is about as far as the axle will go into the hub. Inside view of the axle in the hub

01-07-2012, 12:47 PM	#12
viking-101 Honda-Tech Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Bossier City, Louisiana Posts: 151 iTrader Rating: (0)	Re: b18a1 intermediate shaft/cv axles problem Well after cleaning off the hub and axle splines and counting all of the splines i found out that the splines on the crx hub is 23 and the spines on the axle is 26 . Now i'm at a major stand still. Would anybody know what i should do next to fix this problem?

01-07-2012, 01:31 PM	#13
ef yu Honda-Tech Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: May 2006 Location: in the land where we say hella. Posts: 1,872 iTrader Rating: (0)	Re: b18a1 intermediate shaft/cv axles problem im not sure if the 88 si hubs are any different.... but it seems to me is that you have a Hf hub. HF hubs are smaller than the DX/SI. which is causing the problem. Maybe the 88 SI are different????? I have a 89 crx si and b series axle fits no problem. Are you sure it is an SI? you would be surprise at how many ppl sell their crx/civic trying to pass it on as a SI to get that extra cash. __________________ HI. these are things forsale. My 89 crx si commuter.

01-07-2012, 03:05 PM	#14
viking-101 Honda-Tech Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Bossier City, Louisiana Posts: 151 iTrader Rating: (0)	Re: b18a1 intermediate shaft/cv axles problem I've had a feeling in the back of my mind that the car is a hf which there is a high possbility it might be. Would any crx so or 90-93 integra hub fix the problem

01-07-2012, 03:42 PM	#15
ef yu Honda-Tech Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: May 2006 Location: in the land where we say hella. Posts: 1,872 iTrader Rating: (0)	Re: b18a1 intermediate shaft/cv axles problem i've never used 90-93 integra hubs but i have read that it works. BUT it also makes the car have positive camber unless you have the car lowered then you would have nothing to worry about. Just get an alignment and it should be good. What made you think your 88 crx was an SI? do you have a original sunroof? D16A6 engine? there is also the OEM rear sway bar. Any pics of the car? I'd like to see.

01-07-2012, 04:12 PM	#16
bradley Honda-Tech Member 1988 Honda CRX My Garage Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 154 iTrader Rating: (0)	Re: b18a1 intermediate shaft/cv axles problem '88 CRX front hubs are identical and are like the HF hubs. Regardless of model. They also ALL have rear drums, where the 89-91 CRX Si has rear discs. Your CRX would only be an Si if it has a factory sunroof. Any CRX/Civic hubs will work, find you some 26 spline ones at a pull-a-part or something. DA ones work but are iffy/need something to install them, same with EG/EJ hubs but you REALLY need to search for a how to if you go with those, I know nothing about that. 1989-1991 CRX DX/Si hubs should work, 89-91 Civic DX/Si/LX/EX hubs should work.

01-07-2012, 05:11 PM	#17
viking-101 Honda-Tech Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Bossier City, Louisiana Posts: 151 iTrader Rating: (0)	Re: b18a1 intermediate shaft/cv axles problem The car does have factory sunroof. I think the previous owner swapped the hubs just to use on another car. The only crx around where I live is at a salvage yard in 3 town and it's an 88 si. But there are 2 da 90 integras there. Im gonna have to do alot of research to see if it could work.

01-07-2012, 05:30 PM	#18
Jockone Honda-Tech Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Central Pa Posts: 540 iTrader Rating: (0)	Re: b18a1 intermediate shaft/cv axles problem The 90 teggy knuckles will work to get the swap done for you and if you are not lowered you can get adjustable ball joint for the top to adjust your camber. __________________ You might be a King or a little street sweeper but sooner or later you dance with the reaper.

01-07-2012, 08:06 PM	#19
viking-101 Honda-Tech Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Bossier City, Louisiana Posts: 151 iTrader Rating: (0)	Re: b18a1 intermediate shaft/cv axles problem If 90's integra knuckles is the only thing that I need to make everything work how much camber would it be off by? The front springs one the car have been cut. The old owner wanted to do the rice way instead of buying coil overs or drop srpings

01-08-2012, 06:15 PM	#20
zrickety Honda-Tech Member 1991 Honda CRX Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Cordele, GA, US Posts: 1,702 iTrader Rating: (1)	Re: b18a1 intermediate shaft/cv axles problem DA (90-93) integra knuckles are a great upgrade. You should grab the 4040 prop valve, master cylinder and rear disc brakes while you're at it. The camber is not a big factor, I'm lowered just a little and the alignment was in spec. __________________ 91 Crx Si (B16 SiR) http://crxcommunity.com/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=32702

01-08-2012, 06:35 PM	#21
viking-101 Honda-Tech Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Bossier City, Louisiana Posts: 151 iTrader Rating: (0)	Re: b18a1 intermediate shaft/cv axles problem I'll check around on ebay to see if the have some. If i can get the axles in i'll be home free than hopefully.

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