Hyoriu

Alright guys, I've been going around and looking at this set of coilovers for a while.

Out of the box, these things looked SOLID and extremely well built. I couldn't wait to put them on.

Let me first start off that this may not be the type of suspension for everyone's cup of tea, but for me, it was perfect.
As soon as my friend Ken and I finished the install, we took it for a spin. The suspension was very solid and controllable. The entire car was extremely stable in turns and no nose dive at all when braking. I got an alignment right away and it was a good thing I did otherwise the toe would've eaten my tires up. Gonna be returning back to the alignment shop after a couple hundred miles when the suspension fully settles in. On the fronts, we lowered it all the way to the max without adjusting the factory pre-load and left the 3rd locknut on it and on the rears, we left it at factory height the way they had it adjusted. It's maybe tucked a bit less than 1 finger gap front and rear.

It is definitely not too stiff or bouncy to me when driving around the streets but at times on the highway, it can actually be a bit too stiff and throw you around the seat when going 65+mph. But only on certain parts of the highway. Still have to drive more to test it out. As soon as the suspension settled a bit, I started hearing a bit of low creaking noise from the rears? I'm not sure what it could be and there's no way it could be the LCA bushings because I replaced the rears with the skunk2 rear LCA's also. It could be that some of the bolts may not be tight enough? Don't know. It only happens whenever I'm going slow in some dippy/crappy roads like 10-15mph.

All in all, these coilovers I love them. They are great on the street and not too bouncy. You can really speed around and not worry about too many of the dips and bounces because the rebound on the coilovers keeps the car from dipping at an EXTREME MINIMUM. (I may not know what I am talking about with this terminology but I'm just stating what I feel is going on). Like I said, on the highway when going faster at certain parts it can get a bit bouncy maybe but on the street, it is certainly driveable and not uncomfortable at all. The feeling of stability is awesome.

Anyways, on to the pictures. Sorry if they are a bit big.



Right out of the box.



The skunk2 LCA's compared to Blox ones I had before. Blox bushings are crap. Barely lasted a bit over 1 1/2 years.



Old dampener next to new

Had to take off the muffler to put on the LCA's just to be able to remove one of the bolts.




Everything put on. Couldn't put on the lower tie bar because I had the ASR subframe brace I think. Thoughts?





How the car sits before the things settle in completely. Gonna jack it up again later on and try to re-tighten the bolts in the back to see if it'll eliminate the noise. Will update everyone later on on how it rides and everything.

98civdx

You can still use most tie bars and ASR. I take it you have the newest verson? If so, you'll need longer bolts.

Bouncy? Your ride height will have something to do with that as well. What spring rates?

FlewByU352

Every person I know that have boughten Skunk 2 suspension complains about how bouncy it is. You can even see their cars hopping through parking lots and ****.

98civdx

Your telling me.

<----- Has Skunk2 coilovers,

98civdx

Lol, this guy!

Hyoriu

Yeah, I have the newest version. But even with longer bolts, the brackets from the ASR brace and where the swaybar connects blocks the bolt from even connecting through to be able to lock in the tie bar securely :\
I'll try to get pictures in to show you what I mean this week.

The ride has settled in a bit more and its gotten a bit more soft right now. Cruising around on the streets, it feels good and very stable. not too bouncy at all but when traveling on certain parts of the highway depending on the road, it started getting pretty damn bouncy.
The ride height actually wouldn't affect the ride feeling of the car I would think because height adjustment on these V2 Pro-S's are independent from the preload so the dampening isn't affected at all I would think?

Spring rates are 8k/10k i forgot which is front or rear. but yeah 8k and 10k.


If you want them, $50.00 + shipping but your gonna need new bushings pressed into them!

Libertariat

If your dampers are appropriately matched to the spring rates you have your car shouldn't bounce at all.

Your shocks are under damped relative to whatever your spring rate is. That's what causes bounciness.

A quality kit won't bounce. Period.

I can't believe you're actually trying to add a tie bar to your tie bar. The ASR brace is already serving as an over-sized tie bar. You're wasting time/effort/energy in trying to add 3lbs of aluminum to your car.

Hyoriu

What if it's on really bumpy/wavy roads going fast? Because normal speeds on city driving is fine. It's only highway driving through different parts that may have really small un-noticeable dips/waves that it would feel bouncy I guess?

Well I didn't know that the ASR brace is supposed to be in place of the tie-bar to begin with until I tried to put in the tie bar. But now I know! ^^

Libertariat

Why do we bother having shocks at all? Shocks are there to compliment the springs and primarily settle the semi-perpetual rebound inherent in cold wound spring steel.

We could literally drive around on just springs but your car would never stop moving, it would always be rocking around on the energy coming in and out of the springs. Shocks stabilize the spring.

I hope you can return your tie bar. Tie bars are pretty useless anyway even without an ASR or Function7 brace already serving that function.

98civdx

With those spring rates your deffinetly going to be feeling the bumps. As I said ealier, your ride doesn't help.


But it being bouncy is not a good thing. With approximently 650lb springs, it's not going to ride good.

Libertariat

8k/10k could be "not bouncy" if the dampers were valved to handle those rates. I doubt Pro-S is even remotely valved to handle that. Skunk2 would probably rather you have Pro-C

Hyoriu

So it has been about 500 miles and the suspension is definitely dialed and settled in. Haven't been able to get under the car and diagnose the sound but it's died down a bit and is kind of minimal. Maybe I've gotten used to it?

Anyhow, after the settling in, the ride on the streets is pretty damn smooth now. Nowhere near as stiff as the ride was when it was first installed and the handling is still immaculate for a street ride on the turns and highways. Feels extremely stable and I can utilize the tires to the full potential. But on certain parts of the highways like before where there are wavy kind of roads that you can't really see by eye, the ride still feels a bit bouncy when going fast but other than that on other highway surfaces, pretty decent. Got a touch up alignment to see if it's changed now that the suspension is settled in and the alignment is still in tact with nothing changing. Here are the specs of the initial alignment.

jdm206

i have these same coilover on my hatch cant really complain about them, not to stiff or anything.

Hyoriu

Do you have any noise coming from the rear?

98civdx

You already have a noise comeing from them?

jdm206

i also herd some noise coming from the rear, but for some reason it went way.

DeathLens

I have these on my em1 and I love them. no too stiff, not too bouncy and I didn't mess with the preload. no noise here.

N.O.B

Now where do I start…
1st of all this is my personal and honest experience.
2nd of all it was a Huge mistake buying these for my EG, worse ever suspension I’ve ever had!!!
I bought these expecting something great and better than the first, especially when you brand them with Skunk2 pro s v2….. but for the cost should’ve throwing me off what to expect of quality

The amount of bouncing on this is seriously ridiculous – something like when you 15years old and cruzing around with your springs cut. But far worse!
After bouncing so much to a point where my guts almost came out of my ****, I decided to change the perch and height settings – haha I don’t think so. Same thing happened.

Skunk2 gear is great, but I think they should leave the suspension to the specialist..

Libertariat

Now you know why this forum generally steers people away from skunk2.

jdm206

N.o.b how old are your pro s2 suspenion? I had mine for about a year and they ride fine, not even boucny

grumblemarc

iTrader: (4)

Depends on what you define as bouncy. I've seen kids tooling down the street bouncing like a pogo stick and swear their ride was not bouncy.

98civdx

Sometimes my car does that.

Moonraker09

The "bouncing" concept in these forums seems to be an arbitrary concept. As grumblemarc said, you have kids rolling around on the street with their car still bouncing at a red light that keep saying their ride is not bouncy at all. Or Vice-versa. This is one example of a post that add no value to the actual review of the suspension product. Plus, I've rarely seen review of a stiff suspension being enjoyed by the owner. That "bouncing" arbitrary concept always interfere in most of the reviews you see on HT.

grumblemarc

iTrader: (4)

To add to this bouncy vs. stiff thing, I have noticed that the slammed into the weeds trend is hitting big around these parts (it only took 16 years for the lowriders to follow me from AZ) and the kids are driving with rides maybe an inch off of the ground, looking like flying carpets, and when they hit a bump in the road the car doesn't move at all. Haven't spoken to any of those people yet but I guarantee you that they've convinced themselves that their rides are not at all harsh and ride like Caddys.

This stiff/bouncy thing is just about as subjective as someone trying to describe in words how loud an exhaust is, you just can't do it.

Drive 4 fun

Is bouncy undamped and a person exterior to the car would see the car oscillate or is the bounce described a transfer of road thump into the car without oscillation. A well damped car with low profile tires, poly bushings and moderate damped speings will thump the riders and not oscillate. Perhaps the terms should be oscillate vs harsh.