|
Sign in using an external account
|
|
||||||||
| Welcome to Honda-Tech! | ||
|
|
Welcome to Honda-Tech.com.
You are currently viewing our forums as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join the Honda-Tech community today! |
![]() |
|
|
Thread Tools | Search this Thread |
|
|
#1 |
|
Honda-Tech Member
Garage is empty, add now
|
Hello all,
Well everything went very well yesterday, so I thought I would share. This is a write-up of how to replace your front wheel bearings with the Harbor freight Tool set "66829 Front Wheel Bearing Adapters" $89.99. http://www.harborfreight.com/fwd-fro...ers-66829.html ![]() FYI: This tool kit has been recently updated! I opened up 2 kits at the store today, and found out they have changed the main forcing bolt. The older kit from 11/2010 had the 2 piece bolt where the hex-head has clearly been welded on. This is obvious because if you inspect the bolt where the hex-head meets the threads, you can clearly see the threads are machined all the way up to, and continue underneath, the bolt head. The updated kit (with 08/2011 on the box) has a 1 piece bolt where you can clearly see the chamfer at the base of the bolt head leading to the shaft. In addition, the threads are not cut all the way up to the bolt head (they stop just short). It looks as though US General may have listened to the complaints of broken bolts on the HF website. The updated kit can also be easily identified because it has a black-oxide coating on it, instead of the old shiny black-painted finish. Of course the black-oxide coating comes with considerable surface rust and crunch white grit. It was this nasty-ness that prompted me to open up the next kit below and find the differences. Definitely use the ugly updated kit! The new style bolt performed flawlessly on my nearly 18 year old junkyard knuckles. No sign of stretch or failure in the bolt head. This first picture shows everything I was using to make it work. - Harbor Freight kit - 1/2" ratchet - 36mm socket - jack-handle (cheater bar) - extreme-pressure moly grease (or any grease on hand) In addition to these tools, I also used: - pair of vice grips - towel to protect the bolt head from said grips In each segment, you can put the screw & bolt on either side to make it work. It's all up to you. Probably makes a big difference weather or not your knuckles are still on the car, and what size sockets you have available to you. ![]() ![]() Hub Removal: My hub had already been hammered out with a socket and 5lb dumbell before this point. I used the method shown bellow of placing the knuckle on some wood blocks and pounding it downward from the back side (pic stolen from N3va3vaSatisfi3d's thread). Once it starts moving, it comes out pretty easy. One of the bearing races will come out with the hub, but we'll deal with that later: ![]() Bearing Removal: Be sure to remove the large Cir-clip holding the bearing in before you start (this is a bitch). Mine was already out, so I don't have a picture. I've setup the tool with the largest size disk on the back side that wouldn't hang up on the knuckle while pressing out the bearing. I took these pictures after the bearing started moving out, so your disk won't sit as deep when you first mount it. I didn't have a socket big enough to fit the head of the bolt, but my 32mm hub socket fit perfectly onto the kits provided nut (yay!). Surprisingly, at this stage the bolt never even tried to turn on it's own as I pressed out the bearing. Therefore I didn't have to put another wrench on it to hold it steady. Grease up your screw and nut for this step. ![]() ![]() Bearing Install: Now these pictures show how I set it up to press the new bearing in. You definitely want the discs facing as I've shown so you are ONLY pressing on the outer race of the bearing. The inner race of the bearing DEFINITELY DOES stick out further than the outer race, and you DO NOT WANT TO PRESS THE INNER RACE! If you do, you could flat-spot the ***** inside. This time the bolt did want to spin as I turned the nut. Since I don't have a socket big enough, I just put the vice grips on the head of the bolt (which I covered with a rag), and started wrenching. Worked perfectly. Pace yourself; it takes forever. Grease up the Inside of the knuckle (very thin layer), the outside of the bearing (very thin layer), the screw, the nut and the washer that the nut is pressing against. ![]() ![]() ![]() Hub & Inner Race Separation: Sorry I didn't take any pics of this, I had already removed the inner race before I got this tool. To make it happen, cut a deep V-shaped groove across the race with your dremel kinda at a 45* angle. Once your almost through, hit it with a chisel and hammer and it will crack all the way across (I actually managed this with a flat-blade screwdriver). Then it will slide right off with a little help from a screwdriver and the head of a hammer. This video is where I learned the technique. Skip to 4:28 to see: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEDrioMDe1k You can also use a bearing separator like they show in the other wheel-bearing threads in the FAQ, but I wanted to use what I already had on hand. Hub install: Here you can see I've setup the tool to press the hub (I didn't actually do this yet as I'm going to order a new dust shield). The key is to make sure your only pulling against the inner race of the bearing for this one. Otherwise you know what will happen. I also found it very helpful to orient the discs as I've shown to help center them on the hub and bearing. Don't forget to install your cir-clip and dust shield BEFORE this step. Otherwise you'll be buying another bearing. I'm starting to wonder if a 32mm hub-nut will thread onto this bolt... Grease inside the bearing (thin layer), outside the hub (thin layer), your screw, nut and washer. Now go to town! ![]() ![]() I hope this helps some folks out. You can always sell this kit when your done. And if it breaks on you, you can simply return it for a refund (within 90 days) and take your hubs to a machine shop. Not too much to loose on this one.
__________________
HE>I Last edited by 94eg!; 10-21-2011 at 07:33 AM. |
|
|
|
|
|
#2 |
|
Honda-Tech Member
Garage is empty, add now
|
Nice writeup! I had a machine shop do mine...but if I were to replace them more than twice I'd definitely get this tool!
__________________
Flickr |
|
|
|
|
|
#3 |
|
Trial User
Garage is empty, add now
|
Do you know which size adapter you used to remove your bearings? I don't want to buy an entire set just to change the bearings on my Honda Odyssey.
thanks! Dave |
|
|
|
|
|
#4 |
|
Honda-Tech Member
1994 Honda Civic |
great write up
|
|
|
|
|
|
#5 |
|
Honda-Tech Member
Garage is empty, add now
|
Nice write up, just curious can something similar be rented at Autozone?
|
|
|
|
|
|
#6 |
|
Honda-Tech Member
1993 Honda Civic |
Nice! I usually have success with Harbor Freight's hand tools. Their electric tools can be a little hit-or-miss, but for how cheap everything is there, it's a wash.
Excellent write-up! |
|
|
|
|
|
#7 |
|
Honda-Tech Member
1992 Honda Civic |
I wish you would of written this a little ealier would of saved me 40 bucks. But overall excellent write up
|
|
|
|
|
|
#8 | |
|
Honda-Tech Member
Garage is empty, add now
|
Thanks for the kind words guys. Sorry I didn't respond sooner. Don't know why this didn't stay in my watched topics...
Quote:
I could not find anything similar at AZ. I tried looking everywhere for a cheaper alternative to this tool. The HF set is about half the price of anything similar from anywhere else. The only thing that I've seen that might make this set any nicer would be a thrust bearing instead of the steel washers they provide. But the washers work fine.
__________________
HE>I |
|
|
|
|
|
|
#9 |
|
Honda-Tech Member
Garage is empty, add now
|
Great write up. You should post a link in whatever general repair forum is appropriate.
FYIs: - Alltrade 648741 is a "professional" version of this tool that will probably last longer that twice and is only about $25 more through Amazon. - The adaptors can be used with a shop press if you have one and the knuckle is off. Makes a very quick job. -Rusted in cur clip is pretty common and a PITA. To make life easy soak it with penetrating oil. Take a small flat nose punch and hit it at an angle so that you spin the clip in its groove, this spinning breaks the rust loose. If it will not spin it will never come out. Bad ones will take multiple soakings and a little heat from a propane torch.
__________________
"It's more fun to drive a slow car fast than a fast car slow" ITR 98-301 R.I.P. |
|
|
|
|
|
#10 | |
|
Honda-Tech Member
Garage is empty, add now
|
Quote:
the altrade is currently 135 at amazon, and i just walked outa the store with the harbor freight unit for $85 using a 20% off coupon (easily found by googling "harbor freight 20%").
__________________
-94 Milano Red DC2 -97 Subaru Wagacy |
|
|
|
|
|
|
#11 |
|
Honda-Tech Member
1998 Honda Civic |
Looks like a great write up. Thanks! I need to do this job now, and I had not yet found a good guide.
|
|
|
|
![]() |
|
|
| Tags |
| adapters, bearing, bolt, directions, freight, front, fwd, harbor, honda, installing, removing, replacement, tool, tools, wheel |
| Thread Tools | Search this Thread |
|
|