Ls vtec timing adjustment!!!
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Ls vtec timing adjustment!!!
All right I'm having problem with my built lsv sleeve 2.0 turbo motor I install skunk2 stage 1 cam shaft n buddy club cam gear on the motor n I set everything to TDC n made sure it all correct!!!! N then I start it up n check the timming if it was all line up with my timing gun!!! And now IT'S off!!! I re did everywhere all over like 3-4 Time now n still not time right or something!!!! Lmk what I'm not doing it right or something!!! Cuz I'm sure I did it right but STILL throw of OFF!!!!
B18a bottom
B16 head
Sleeve 2.0
Turbo motor
B18a bottom
B16 head
Sleeve 2.0
Turbo motor
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Re: Ls vtec timing adjustment!!!
I had it running!!! But now it won't start up now!! But when it was running it was running rich... Blk smoke and it would idle rough!!
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Re: Ls vtec timing adjustment!!!
Slow down bro take a breath and word this right...
How did u put the belt on what sequence?
How is the tensioner? Is it on backwards?
Did you set the timing and turn the engine over 6 revoloutions before starting? How much was the timing off? Maybe you already bent a valve. Are you setting the crank to tdc using the timing gear to the oil pump cover? Or using the pulley and timing belt cover for refrence?
Is your head milled and block decked?
How did u put the belt on what sequence?
How is the tensioner? Is it on backwards?
Did you set the timing and turn the engine over 6 revoloutions before starting? How much was the timing off? Maybe you already bent a valve. Are you setting the crank to tdc using the timing gear to the oil pump cover? Or using the pulley and timing belt cover for refrence?
Is your head milled and block decked?
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Re: Ls vtec timing adjustment!!!
Slow down bro take a breath and word this right...
How did u put the belt on what sequence?
How is the tensioner? Is it on backwards?
Did you set the timing and turn the engine over 6 revoloutions before starting? How much was the timing off? Maybe you already bent a valve. Are you setting the crank to tdc using the timing gear to the oil pump cover? Or using the pulley and timing belt cover for refrence?
Is your head milled and block decked?
How did u put the belt on what sequence?
How is the tensioner? Is it on backwards?
Did you set the timing and turn the engine over 6 revoloutions before starting? How much was the timing off? Maybe you already bent a valve. Are you setting the crank to tdc using the timing gear to the oil pump cover? Or using the pulley and timing belt cover for refrence?
Is your head milled and block decked?
and no i didnt turn the engine over 6 revoloutions!! i just did my timing adjustment then start it up..( i think that might be my problem!!!) ill try that tomrrow!!
and i timming the crank at the bottom block to the oil pump mark
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Re: Ls vtec timing adjustment!!!
I got a feeling you dont know what your doing!! Here is the correct process to set the mechanical cams/crank timing.
Align the two cam marks with the up mark at the top , align the bottom crank mark,loosten up the adjuster bolt, install the belt over the cam gears with the exhaust side first, you might have to re-adjust the cam position slightly to get the belt to go on. Once the belt is on rotate the crankshaft counter-clockwise and move a total of three teeth on the cam gears...tighten the tensioner bolt. Then rotate the crankshaft 3 full revolutions and each time make sure your marks still line up.
now you can set the ignition timing with the timing light.
Align the two cam marks with the up mark at the top , align the bottom crank mark,loosten up the adjuster bolt, install the belt over the cam gears with the exhaust side first, you might have to re-adjust the cam position slightly to get the belt to go on. Once the belt is on rotate the crankshaft counter-clockwise and move a total of three teeth on the cam gears...tighten the tensioner bolt. Then rotate the crankshaft 3 full revolutions and each time make sure your marks still line up.
now you can set the ignition timing with the timing light.
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OP, you mention a timing light in the first post. mechanical timing and ignition timing are tow different things. if you are sure that the mechanical timing is correct then you need to go back and set the ignition timing (adjust the distributor) to get it back in spec.
make sure the mechanical timing is correct first.
then do the ignition
http://www.hondacivicforum.com/forum...ustment-16210/
make sure the mechanical timing is correct first.
then do the ignition
http://www.hondacivicforum.com/forum...ustment-16210/
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I got a feeling you dont know what your doing!! Here is the correct process to set the cam timing.
Align the two cam marks with the up mark at the top and up, align the bottom crank mark,loosten up the adjuster bolt, install the belt over the cam gears with the exhaust side first, you might have to re-adjust the cam position slightly to get the belt to go on. Once the belt is on rotate the crankshaft counter-clockwise and move a total of three teeth on the cam gears...tighten the tensioner bolt. Then rotate the crankshaft 3 full revolutions and each time make sure you marks still line up.
Align the two cam marks with the up mark at the top and up, align the bottom crank mark,loosten up the adjuster bolt, install the belt over the cam gears with the exhaust side first, you might have to re-adjust the cam position slightly to get the belt to go on. Once the belt is on rotate the crankshaft counter-clockwise and move a total of three teeth on the cam gears...tighten the tensioner bolt. Then rotate the crankshaft 3 full revolutions and each time make sure you marks still line up.
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Re: Ls vtec timing adjustment!!!
its not lazy its efficient! Why would you pull it all apart if you dont have to! Using the mark on the lower belt cover is just as accurate as the mark on the oil pump. remember its the same mark your going to use for the ignition timing or do you degree that over using a light because it takes longer?
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Alright I redid it.. Had the crank mark line up to the oil pump mark, and both cam gear TDC, with the coil on the cap pointing to cylinder plug #1.. Started it up n won't fire... Think my spark plug Are fried from when I did my timming so many time that was running RICH... I'm getting new one tomorrow and will see how it go and Ill post up how it dose!!!!
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You still continue to relate mechanical timing with ignition timing. they are not related. Let's go one step at a time.
Step 1 - is the mechanical timing correct? If everything is lined up and he belt is on, turn the engine over by hand. Does everything stay lined up after a few revolutions?
Step 1 - is the mechanical timing correct? If everything is lined up and he belt is on, turn the engine over by hand. Does everything stay lined up after a few revolutions?
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does anyone know of a person good at rebuilding honda motors ls/vtec i got another bottom end i spun a rod bearing and broke a rod in live on texas louisiana state line in lake charles its at a shop but i dont think they will beable to do the timing our put it back together rite im waiting on the cometic lsv head gasket and thats all im missing to put it back together i was gonna assemble it back myself but after that i need help with the timing and switching my oil pump and water pump to the new bottom end.pls pm me if anyone close to me can do this for me ill get the car and parts to them thx.
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OP, you mention a timing light in the first post. mechanical timing and ignition timing are tow different things. if you are sure that the mechanical timing is correct then you need to go back and set the ignition timing (adjust the distributor) to get it back in spec.
make sure the mechanical timing is correct first.
then do the ignition
http://www.hondacivicforum.com/forum...ustment-16210/
make sure the mechanical timing is correct first.
then do the ignition
http://www.hondacivicforum.com/forum...ustment-16210/
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