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Old 03-04-2011, 07:52 PM
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Default 95 shell with a B16A2 swap revs only to 4K rpm in neutral

so as you can see from my user name , i used to have a 91 hatch dx. well...... long story short. i totaled it. so.. this is my new to me honda. its a 95 shell with a B16A2 swap and a two step launch control..... i think. in neutral it will only rev a little over 4 grand. but if you put it in first and boucne the rpm's at around 4 grand like it does in neutral then it launches hard. the wiring on it seems cooky though, the instrument panel won't light up and the interiorlight doesn't work. somebody told me it could be because i don't have a radio hooked up in the car. so we'll see. Pics? By the way. The fart can has to go. I already have a header on order, should arrive soon!
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I think it may be your dimmer switch. That was at least why my cluster wouldn't light up before.
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of course, you should always check your fuses first.
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looks good. fuses are always first as already suggested
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nice car, how much did you pay it?
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Payed 2 grand for it and did check all the fuses. Had some in the wrong spots but i fixed them and put all the correct fuses where they should be. So I know it's not the fuses. What is the dimmer switch and where is it located? Any suggestions on the fact that the car only revs to four grand in neutral? I like it for "launches", but would like it to rev to the redline in neutral if I felt the need!
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BTW 2 grand was a GREAT price for the car, but.....I did have to fix a few thing's in order for it to be totally reliable. Still needs an oil pan.
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does your climate control, hazard and defroster switchs light up? if they dont its most likely a bad dimmer swith. its on the left side of the steering wheel (not on it on the dash under cluster) pull it out and disconnect it, can be done with a flathead just be careful to not scratch anything. and stick a paperclip to the outside pins on the disconnect then turn on your lights if they work just get a new switch. if they dont check for power at these wires not quite sure which 1 is power but you'll need a multimeter.
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Payed 2 grand for it and did check all the fuses. Had some in the wrong spots but i fixed them and put all the correct fuses where they should be. So I know it's not the fuses. What is the dimmer switch and where is it located? Any suggestions on the fact that the car only revs to four grand in neutral? I like it for "launches", but would like it to rev to the redline in neutral if I felt the need!
dimmer switch is located left to the steering wheel on the dash, it controls the brightness of ur cluster lights, simple trip to the junkyard would fix it if thats the problem, most likely the reason it only revs to four grand is a chipped ecu with the "launch control function" witch will only let it rev to that if ecu senses the vehicle is not moving, its pointless in a pretty much stock car, thats a good deal for a swaped coupe as long as everything is legit
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Back to your launch control, how is it controlled? through the ecu or a stand alone unit? Sounds like the launch control is set to your speedo so that after X amount of mph/kmh it turns off.
And what OBD are you running?

BTW not a bad price at 2k.
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Not sure what OBD I'm running. How would I find something like that out? Alos, not sure if the launch control is thru the ecu or stand alone. Any way you could tell me how to find that out too?
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you can tell your obd by the year of the engine. I think 91-96 b16s, or something close to that are obd 1. The car is obd 1, so this would be the best and most simple scenario. Engine years are stamped on the front of the cylinder head.

Personally, until it runs perfect, I would get rid of accessories like launch control. Try an oem B16 ecu and see if that fixes it. If not its probably your wiring, and you can get a engine wiring harness for your car at any junk yard. Any harness from a 92-95 civic that came with vtec will work without modification. This is where I would start anyway.

Also, if you're not going to run power steering, get rid of the PS parts! Just to clean it up some.
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all you have to do is check what ecu you have, open it and look to see if its chipped. if it was wiring it wouldnt rev past 4k at all im pretty sure its just a chipped ecu, no sense in throwing money at it until your sure what the problem is, and from what you described you dont have a problem all it is, is two step
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you can tell your obd by the year of the engine. I think 91-96 b16s, or something close to that are obd 1. The car is obd 1, so this would be the best and most simple scenario. Engine years are stamped on the front of the cylinder head.

Personally, until it runs perfect, I would get rid of accessories like launch control. Try an oem B16 ecu and see if that fixes it. If not its probably your wiring, and you can get a engine wiring harness for your car at any junk yard. Any harness from a 92-95 civic that came with vtec will work without modification. This is where I would start anyway.

Also, if you're not going to run power steering, get rid of the PS parts! Just to clean it up some.
Where at on the block is the year located? All I've seen is the engine type engraved in the block. Also what parts should I remove if I'm not going to run power steering (which I"m not). I have taken out the fluid canister but that's it.
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And I'm not bothered by the "two step" so I'll probably just leave that alone. Thanks for the advice on that aspect though.
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Also is there any way I can run an open velocity stack on it without having to worry about anything getting in my motor? Or should I keep a filter on it?
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One more thing........Ha Ha. Is there any way I can fond out how many miles are on the motor? There are over 200k on the body. Needs some body work, it has Honda cancer
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Anymore help with what I should remove with the power steering parts would be great!
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To remove the PS just yank everything off that you can see, the pressure hose (large one that mounts to top of PS pump) is routed to the PS rack, the ends on the rack will need to be tied off or at the very least looped together so it still remains a contained system.

if you want to stay with no PS i would advise tracking down a non-ps rack to swap in as the gearing is suited better.

and sounds like the ECu is chipped with a rev-limiter so unless you know what ecu/program you are running i would leave it alone.

Hope this helps!
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Default Re: 95 shell with a B16A2 swap revs only to 4K rpm in neutral

Thanks a lot! I kinda felt left hanging to dry on this on. Is changing the steering a difficult task? Also what kind of non PS rack would I be looking for? Thanks again for all the help!
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Non-ps from any eg.

They are all the same. actually not sure if the VX is any different but cant be by much.
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Thanks Groovinator. Much appreciated info. Did any of the ej's come non ps?
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Base model coupes had non-ps as well. Almost identical front ends on the 92-95 civics.
DX models are most common for coupes.

Hope this helps!
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Default Re: 95 shell with a B16A2 swap revs only to 4K rpm in neutral

del sol s model's came with manual as well...

It also doesn't matter what year block/head you have... you can't tell what OBD you are by checking the year on the head...

Thats like trying to see if the girl your taking home from the bar is a girl by checking for an adams apple...

What I'm getting at is, I have an origanlly OBD 0 b16 converted to OBD1 to run in my 95 del sol... Things can be converted...

Checking your ecu is the only way...
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