gaydm.accord

I went to Honda for a service recall on the driver side window a few months back and the service technician asked if I wanted to service my automatic transmission fluid. This is based strictly on mileage, before popping the hood, and before driving my car off for the original service. I asked the technician when the transmission service is supposed to be done. 20k he responds.

I declined, went home, and opened up my service repair manual. It says under heavy conditions I should replace my transmission fluid first at 60k and then every 30k after that. But I drive my Fit under normal conditions, just school and work. So I put the service off, now I am at 30k miles.

I decided to Google and find when I should replace my transmission fluid to no avail. So I call up Honda hoping I would get an accurate response this time over the phone. The person answering the phone was a female so I automatically discredited her.(JK) She says I should replace my A/T fluid at 15k and that I am way past due. I said blasphemy, the manual says otherwise. Now she backpedals and says that we recommend 15k for preventative maintenance, I just hung up on her. I didn't want to hear any other bogus information.

Does anyone have a Helms? I don't want to replace my transmission fluid if I do not need to replace it until 60k. I have the fluid I would rather not waste fluid if I have 30k more miles left. I don't mind replacing my fluids early in fact i usually replace my fluids a little early but 30 and 60 is too much of a difference.

I need facts not hearsay, any halp is greatly appreciated.

double11

The Helms states, under regular conditions the Automatic Transmission fluid should be changed at 60k mi. and then every 30k. pg. 3-8

HTH

gaydm.accord

Thank you, I called another dealership and they confirmed 60k then 30k. I guess this dealership has shady practices.

Honda World of Westminster
on Beach

Targa250R

Not necessarily.

Honda as of late has been plagued by automatic transmission failures in many models. Since many Honda trannies do not have a replaceable ATF filter, and since Honda does not recommend power-flushing their automatic transmissions, changing the fluid on a more frequent basis than the specified interval is an inexpensive way to keep contaminants from building up and to keep the fluid fresh. Keep in mind that only about half of the total fluid capacity can be drained out of the case when changing the trans fluid; the rest remains inside the torque converter.

Heat kills transmission fluid, and heavy duty such as stop-and-go city driving and/or hauling a lot of people around will create a lot of heat in the trans. Independent testing has shown that ATF-Z1 does break down much more quickly than the specified service intervals would have you believe, and I've seen a number of transmissions develop problems even before the first service interval is due at 60,000.

Often you should just go by the book, but in some cases Honda gets it wrong. For example, Honda's original recommended service interval for the Dual Pump fluid in '97+ RealTime 4WD rear differentials was found to be far too long, as the fluid would often break down so quickly that the diff would start making growling noises while turning as early as 30,000 miles. Honda eventually revised the service interval for Dual Pump fluid to 30,000 miles, and then later to 12,000-15,000 miles for the first service on '07+ CR-Vs. Another example is valve adjustments - Honda specified a valve adjustment interval of 105,000 miles for B20 engines so that they could advertise "no tune-ups required until 105,000 miles." Many of these engines sustained damage to the cylinder heads due to tightening valve clearances before even reaching 105,000 miles.

For the record, I change the ATF in my personal vehicle every 20,000 miles. Depending on model, I recommend trans fluid change intervals anywhere from 15,000 (for '97-05 J-series, '97-01 H-series, '98-02 F-series, '01-03 D-series) to 30,000 miles ('88-00 and '04-05 D-series, '90-97 F-series, '92-96 H-series, all B-, C-, G-, K-, L-, and R-series). For CVTs, I recommend changing the CVT fluid every 15,000 miles for '96-00 Civic HX and every 30,000 miles for all other CVTs.

$25 worth of fluid once every 18-24 months is a lot cheaper than a $3000+ remanufactured transmission.

gaydm.accord

Thank you for that,
that was very informative.

jack919

Ya its a very informative details that you guys have shared with us.thanks for telling us.

99blackcivicSi

your fit will bring up the minder for #3 about every 20k sometimes sooner sometimes later, but thats when i have been seeing them pop up

miquel1955

MiamiBeach Fit

Hi, I have owned a 2009 Fit Sport since new in Miami, I followed the book, at 60K first change, every 30K 3.4 Qts., the car has now 150K and it´s about due for the next change, it shifts just as the first day, I have always used Honda ATF DW-1, hope this helps.

George Knighton

When a "3" shows up in the maintenance minder is when it is time to change the transmission fluid.

It'll usually say B3 because it will usually coincide with an oil and filter change. But A3, B13, and other combinations are also possible.

If the 3 is in there somewhere, change the transmission fluid. :-)