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Old 02-05-2010, 09:51 AM   #1
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Default Fill Manual Transmission Fluid... Stripped Filler Bolt

1990 Civic. Removed halfshafts and repaired those and in the progess, tranny fluid spilled everywhere. Figured I'd change it anyway. Took out the drain bolt and the rest spilled and when I looked at the filler bolt, someone before me must have went to town with that bolt! The head was stripped bad and tighter than the 33 ft. lbs it called for. Friends and I messed with it for about an hour and won't budge and the head of the bolt is stripped bad. Was like that from before. Won't move.

So anyway, here's my situation. The car is ready to go, but has no fluid for the manual transmission. Can NOT remove the filler bolt to fill it there. And I hope I can pour fluid in somewhere else in order to be able to drive this again without buying a new tranmission or taking it out and getting it to a machine shop. Really don't wanna take it out of the car.

What can I do? Can I fill it with the fluid it calls for somewhere else? Thanks.

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Old 02-05-2010, 10:04 AM   #2
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Is it possible to fill it from where the speedometer cable is? Just pull that out and fill it with 2 quarts of 10W-30 like it calls for? Please help, gotta get this stuff done asap
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Old 02-05-2010, 11:45 AM   #3
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yes i fill my h2b ys1 tranny through the speedo everytime you just need a long *** funnel with a tip that fits in da speedo..but i always pull my fill and watch for when it starts to come out to tell if im full.. and i think my tranny takes a lil more then 2 quarts but im not quite sure cause i havent touched my car for like 5 months(its winter)..if 2 quarts is the oem capacity of your tranny then go for it..
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Default Re: Fill Manual Transmission Fluid... Stripped Filler Bolt

what he said. pull the vss out and fill it through there. i do it this way because it's just easier than going sideways through the fill hole.
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Default Re: Fill Manual Transmission Fluid... Stripped Filler Bolt

if your into a little work there is a plug under your starter that i have pulled out and poured it into there and i watch threw the fill hole for it to come out
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Old 02-05-2010, 01:24 PM   #6
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i've always used the little breather hole on top of the tranny. takes a while, but i don't have to take of anything to get to it. just use a small tube and squeeze.
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Thanks guys. Well first off, that filler bolt is NOT coming out unless it gets to a machine shop. Pipe wrench, regular wrenches and anything and no budge. WD-40 sprayed didn't help either. The head of the bolt is so stripped anyway so I'm giving up there.

Anyway, here is what I have done. I took out the drain bolt (the one where you just use a 3/8 ratchet and loosen it that way) and let all the fluid drain out. It's all dry... no more fluid.

Now I took the speedo cable off (see pic) but I cannot get oil in there. Just spilled all over the place.

PIC - http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/7731/pic1pp.jpg

So as of now, sitting here with filler bolt stripped and won't move, speedo cable disconnected and no fluid in tranny (all fluid drained).

So here's my question... if I leave the drain bolt out and fill it through an opening, once I pour it in, will all the fluid travel down and exit out the drain bolt hole?? Because just so I'm sure it will be lubricated, I was thinking of pouring some fluid in somewhere and just to be sure it gets there, leave the drain plug out and if everything goes right, it should drip right down where the drain plug is. And if that works, then put the plug back on, and fill it up with the 2 quarts. *I know nothing about manual transmissions*

Any advice would be great. Thanks
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Old 02-05-2010, 02:11 PM   #8
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LOL!
you don't need to take the speedo cable out.
It's the gear drive (people call it a VSS, but it's not) that the cable plugs into.


If all else fails, take an axle out and fill the tranny until oil just starts to spill out. That's properly full.
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I've solved this before by welding a large nut to the fill bolt head. Came off with wrench and long breaker bar.

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Old 02-05-2010, 04:00 PM   #10
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you don't need to take the speedo cable out.
It's the gear drive (people call it a VSS, but it's not) that the cable plugs into.


If all else fails, take an axle out and fill the tranny until oil just starts to spill out. That's properly full.
just like he says.. you should be taking out the speedo cable gear drive and just leave the cable connected to it..most gear drives use one 10 mm bolt to hold them in place, that bolt is located at the base of the drive where it hits the tranny.i usually had to use a 10mm socket with a long extension and a swivel to get that bolt out.. once you get the bolt out just pull up on the drive with the cable connected to it and slightly wiggle and it will pull right out and reveal a 3/4" hole or so.. then you can FILL with a funnel..and dont worry about leavin the drain plug out to check if oil gets there unless you realllly wanna be sure but any oil put in the tranny from the speedo or the tiny breather all makes it to your gears and will do the job..
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Default Re: Fill Manual Transmission Fluid... Stripped Filler Bolt

lol it looks like your speedo came apart, try and pull out the sensor its self, youll have a nice opening to get a hose and filler up (been filling honda trannys like this for years now)

theres a flat head groove you should be able to slip a flathead in and pry it up and down till you can remove it fully.
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LOL! This si funny stuff. But yea if you cannot get the VSS out (one 10mm bolt and its off with a pull) Then take off the Reverse light sensor (two wires coming off it) and fill it through there. I would use syncromesh fluid but that is up to you.
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LOL! This si funny stuff. But yea if you cannot get the VSS out (one 10mm bolt and its off with a pull) Then take off the Reverse light sensor (two wires coming off it) and fill it through there. I would use syncromesh fluid but that is up to you.
Yea, gm synchromesh, same price as oil but better for your tranny
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i Have the same problem i still cant get the oil in i need help asap!!! can i do it threw the axel???
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dude has no one ever taken out their reverse light switch?! its big, easy to remove and gives u easy access.
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i Have the same problem i still cant get the oil in i need help asap!!! can i do it threw the axel???
pop off the axle,lift the car up on one side like the dukes of hazard and fill up tranny with fluid through driveshaft
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LOL! This si funny stuff. But yea if you cannot get the VSS out (one 10mm bolt and its off with a pull) Then take off the Reverse light sensor (two wires coming off it) and fill it through there. I would use syncromesh fluid but that is up to you.
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LOL.... I can't believe nobody suggest the right thing to do....
Go to Autozone buy the bolt extractor set kit
http://www.autozone.com/autozone/cat...oductId=532381
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Go to Autozone buy the bolt extractor set kit
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Take the speedo sender gear out and fill it up and be done with it
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Dont mean to be an a$$ but you guys dont think. Its been about 8 mos...... Dont you think he got oil in his trans by now?
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Dont mean to be an a$$ but you guys dont think. Its been about 8 mos...... Dont you think he got oil in his trans by now?
LMAO I just notice, blame the guy that bump the thread.
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just like he says.. you should be taking out the speedo cable gear drive and just leave the cable connected to it..most gear drives use one 10 mm bolt to hold them in place, that bolt is located at the base of the drive where it hits the tranny.i usually had to use a 10mm socket with a long extension and a swivel to get that bolt out.. once you get the bolt out just pull up on the drive with the cable connected to it and slightly wiggle and it will pull right out and reveal a 3/4" hole or so.. then you can FILL with a funnel..and dont worry about leavin the drain plug out to check if oil gets there unless you realllly wanna be sure but any oil put in the tranny from the speedo or the tiny breather all makes it to your gears and will do the job..
i wouldnt do this it even says in the maunal that if you remove that bolt the pinion could drop in he transmission, take the starter off and do it that way, its a 19mm plug and its in the top, this is how i do it with no problems what so ever, its a little extra work but youll get around fooling with a stripped bolt
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i wouldnt do this it even says in the maunal that if you remove that bolt the pinion could drop in he transmission, take the starter off and do it that way, its a 19mm plug and its in the top, this is how i do it with no problems what so ever, its a little extra work but youll get around fooling with a stripped bolt
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