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i-VTEC_DOHC · 10-19-2009, 11:42 PM

Well this thread is going to be a general discussion/technical/questions thread about the FlashPro.

So feel free to post anything about the FlashPro, whether it be questions, comments, videos, or what have you.

I felt like this thread was missing in this section and thanks to builthatch for giving me the permission to start this thread and for it to be a sticky thread.

So i guess ill start this thread off buy stating my mods, and the calibration im using along with the driving experience.

Mods:
- Stock intake
- Skunk2 Megapower header
- Greddy SE exhaust
- RRC intake manifold
- Blox RBC intake manifold adapter substituted for TB spacer (lol)
- P2R IM and TB thermal gaskets
- Hondata FlashPro (obviously)

The calibration im using is Civic-Si-Race-2-Tuned-RH. Which is the calibration for stock intake (according to hondata), a race header, a hi-flo cat, and stock catback. Since there is no calibration for the combo of mods that i have, this is the closest to which i can find and the one that hondata recommended to me.

Calibration Tweaks:
- Lowered VTEC engagement from 4750 to 4500.
- Altered ignition to almost nearly eliminate knocking
- Slightly altered a/f ratio to eliminate backfires with flames
- Launch control lowered from 5000 to 4125 with recovery at 4100.
- Speed limiter set to 180 mph instead of the standard 20360 mph
- Rev limiter lowered from 8600 with recover rpm at 8400 to 8500 with recovery rpm at 8300
- Overrev rpm lowered from 8900 to 8700.
- Idle lowered from 850 to 750.

Driving Impressions:
It's perfect for daily driving. The lowered VTEC engagement is something first time drivers with FlashPro are going to have to adjust to. It's definitely a thrill having the extra mid range power to help get a little head start merging onto the freeway, or shoot for that small gap in traffic hahaha. My gas mileage actually increased by 1mpg which i know isn't a lot to most people. I also noticed that the in-car tachometer and the tachometer on the FlashPro aren't synchronized. For instance, I was data logging and cruising at 3000 rpm to record my a/f ratio and the in-car tach said 3000, but the Flashpro was a little bit higher, but i'm relying on the FlashPro tachometer instead of the in-car tach. I'm going to contact Hondata tomorrow to question if whether or not the discontinued function of the oil life meter is a bug, or they meant to do that. But overall, this product is a 10/10 in my book.

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FijiBlueFG2 · 10-20-2009, 04:11 AM

- Speed limiter set to 180 mph instead of the standard 20360 mph

^---Is that a typo? Or is it just too early in the morning for me to understand?

And my car already idles at 750...?

i-VTEC_DOHC · 10-20-2009, 08:19 AM

^on the FlashPro, you cant eliminate the speed limiter, its just set higher than the car can physically go. so basically the standard speed limiter is 136mph or whatever it is, on flashpro its 20360mph. ill put up a screen shot later, or a short video.

the idle rpm on the flashpro calibration is 850. and fyi, the tach on our cars read 100-125 rpm lower than it actually is.

Si87 · 10-20-2009, 10:03 AM

I know this question will get asked eventually, so you may want to add it into your first post. Some advantages or disadvantages of flashpro compared to accessport.

Also some people preach that in order to get the full potential out of flashpro, you need a professional (dyno) tune. You seem to be doing fine without it. Any thoughts on this?

Greg50Lt · 10-20-2009, 10:18 AM

you have a typo where it says how you lower vtec engagement. you have from 4750 and its 5800 or 5750

gg emerican · 10-20-2009, 11:07 AM

I have I/H/E and going to be getting tbs soon. Should I get flashpro or something else?

i-VTEC_DOHC · 10-20-2009, 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greg50Lt

you have a typo where it says how you lower vtec engagement. you have from 4750 and its 5800 or 5750

there is no typo there greg. the calibration vtec engagement is 4750.
i dropped it to 4500. i wasnt referring to the stock calibration.

i-VTEC_DOHC · 10-20-2009, 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Si87

I know this question will get asked eventually, so you may want to add it into your first post. Some advantages or disadvantages of flashpro compared to accessport.

Also some people preach that in order to get the full potential out of flashpro, you need a professional (dyno) tune. You seem to be doing fine without it. Any thoughts on this?

i dont think theres any disadvantages. when ap came out, you couldnt do any custome tuning. and when fp came out, it was a fully finished product.

its the same way with the ap. the calibrations are just starting points that are tuned for the car to run safely.

Quote:

Originally Posted by gg emerican

I have I/H/E and going to be getting tbs soon. Should I get flashpro or something else?

i would recommend fp. but thats just me. you can contact hondata and they are more than happy to assist you in any way possible.

oh btw, if you want to buy eibach sportlines, i have mine that im willing to sell

Greg50Lt · 10-20-2009, 05:14 PM

O0o ok gotcha my bad. I really hope the wifey got the hint that i wanted this for xmas. Hopefully she will get me one if not ill buy it myself. Might also add a new header with this and get my custom tune done. By february she will be runing with the best of them.

K5^ · 10-20-2009, 06:54 PM

Subscribed.

i-VTEC_DOHC · 10-20-2009, 10:52 PM

so am i the only one with flashpro or something? lol

Ben850 · 10-20-2009, 10:56 PM

i will be getting it soon, right now i just have an injen SRI but i'll soon be installing my TBS and DCRH.

flashpro eliminates CEL's from race headers, correct? would this also trick the emissions machine when you get your car registered?

Si87 · 10-21-2009, 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben850

i will be getting it soon, right now i just have an injen SRI but i'll soon be installing my TBS and DCRH.

flashpro eliminates CEL's from race headers, correct? would this also trick the emissions machine when you get your car registered?

It will not. Emissions hook up a sniffer to your tail-pipe and record pollutant levels (such as unburned gas and CO). Flashpro can't fix that!

About the race headers I think you can avoid the ECU trouble all together with a defouler....

i-VTEC_DOHC · 10-21-2009, 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben850

i will be getting it soon, right now i just have an injen SRI but i'll soon be installing my TBS and DCRH.

flashpro eliminates CEL's from race headers, correct? would this also trick the emissions machine when you get your car registered?

yes you can disable the secondary O2 sensor on fp.
i left mine enabled because i have the defouler that came with the s2rh.
when i got my exhaust installed, i was gonna have them remove the secndary O2 sensor, but i failed to realize that the sensor harness is actually underneath the center console, so the sensor couldnt be removed.

ajpturbopittsburgh · 10-21-2009, 07:16 PM

I can leave my secondary o2 sensor on or off and I get no CEL's. The flashpro doesn't need to trick any emissions equipment. If your car is tuned optimally or running with a correct off the shelf calibration you shouldn't throw CEL's. Usually the CEL's at idle come from running too rich or lean. You shouldn't need a defouler with those race headers. I have a 3" downpipe, no cat, and skunk 2 70mm. I don't throw CEL's. I run closed loop so I idle just the same as a stock civic. So my air fuel ratio is the same as stock civic.

MyLilCivic · 10-21-2009, 07:54 PM

awsome thread

i-VTEC_DOHC · 10-21-2009, 09:28 PM

Update 10-21-09:

noticed that my car started backfiring again today due to the colder temperatures that are
starting to roll around. not sure if theres flames, but its definitely loud enough for there to be a presence.

i-VTEC_DOHC · 10-26-2009, 08:04 PM

latest vid of my car i shot today on my way home from work. excuse the music i forgot to turn it down, but you can still hear everything fine. and thats Bayside playing for anyone who's curious. and yes my car does lose traction in first gear on dry pavement. did these on a set of neogens fyi.

Spoon ITR · 10-26-2009, 08:30 PM

I guess I'll throw my .02 in on this also.

Mods:
Injen CAI
Strup RH
HKS Ti Sport Exhaust
Hondata Flashpro

The only tweaks I made to my car was my launch control to 3600 with recovery at 3575. I also set the speed limiter from 20360 to 199mph. I still plan on dropping the idle and the over rev some time this week now that I finally have time to do so.

My first impressions with the FP were very good. As soon as I started the car after the flash I noticed the car idled different, it sounded like it ran smoother. I backed the car out of my drive way and started to head up my street hardly giving the car 1/4 throttle and I could feel that it wanted to pull even at that throttle. I've had the FP for about 2-3 months now and I still cannot believe how much different the car runs everytime I drive it. The only complaint I have about the FP is it screws up the oil life meter and keeps it at 100%. I cannot wait for this winter to come and make the Si faster and have it dyno tuned using the FP to get the max potential out of the car.

i-VTEC_DOHC · 10-26-2009, 09:36 PM

^it only does that on MAP calibrations.
on AFM/MAF, it still works.
i recommend you use the AFM/MAF with your injen.
i tried MAP with my injen and that was an instant no go for me.
when i switched back to AFM/MAF, it ran like a champ.

i need to tweak my launch control also. i have it set too high for the curent road temps.
i use to have wheel hop into vtec then it was just take off like a rocket. i tried to use my launch control today, and i just slammed 8500 like nobody's business.

Spoon ITR · 10-26-2009, 09:55 PM

Really? What didn't you like about the MAP settings?? I will have to try the MAF map tomorrow after work. I used my launch control on one of the coolest nights we had here at 3600 on Kumho AST's, the car hardly spun and took of like a champ!

i-VTEC_DOHC · 10-26-2009, 10:36 PM

^it felt a little sluggish on the bottom end.
try the afm/maf and you'll see what i mean.
i think the map settings really put all the power up top
and took away normal drivability.

Spoon ITR · 10-27-2009, 04:00 AM

But at the same time does the MAF map take away from the top end that the MAP map's have?

i-VTEC_DOHC · 10-28-2009, 11:26 AM

im not sure. only a dyno can prove that.

FijiBlueFG2 · 10-28-2009, 04:55 PM

I will definitely be picking this up in the near future.

Is it true there is a Injen SRI map?

10-20-2009, 04:11 AM	#2
FijiBlueFG2 Member 2008 Honda Civic Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Boston, MA, USA Posts: 1,465	Re: *The One and Only Official Hondata FlashPro Thread* - Speed limiter set to 180 mph instead of the standard 20360 mph ^---Is that a typo? Or is it just too early in the morning for me to understand? And my car already idles at 750...? __________________ You can't stand the heat? Get out of the kitchen. It's not my fault you don't know how to stay in your lane.

10-20-2009, 08:19 AM	#3
i-VTEC_DOHC Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: killafornia Posts: 3,581	Re: *The One and Only Official Hondata FlashPro Thread* ^on the FlashPro, you cant eliminate the speed limiter, its just set higher than the car can physically go. so basically the standard speed limiter is 136mph or whatever it is, on flashpro its 20360mph. ill put up a screen shot later, or a short video. the idle rpm on the flashpro calibration is 850. and fyi, the tach on our cars read 100-125 rpm lower than it actually is. __________________ 2008 Fiji Blue Pearl FG2//2009 Arctic White Mercedes C300 Vouche list - jdmjim,07SIcpe, junnyx1 Economically proven - "The more you save, the less you have."

10-20-2009, 10:03 AM	#4
Si87 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Kingston, Ontario, Canada Posts: 112	Re: *The One and Only Official Hondata FlashPro Thread* I know this question will get asked eventually, so you may want to add it into your first post. Some advantages or disadvantages of flashpro compared to accessport. Also some people preach that in order to get the full potential out of flashpro, you need a professional (dyno) tune. You seem to be doing fine without it. Any thoughts on this? __________________ 09 Civic Si red orange pearl - Stock

10-20-2009, 10:18 AM	#5
Greg50Lt Junior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: pasadena, md, USA Posts: 963	Re: *The One and Only Official Hondata FlashPro Thread* you have a typo where it says how you lower vtec engagement. you have from 4750 and its 5800 or 5750 __________________ 07 fiji FG2: XBL/Gamertag: Greg50Lt 1/4mile : 14.473 @97.72 207whp 151.wtq

10-20-2009, 11:07 AM	#6
gg emerican Junior Member 2007 Honda Civic Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Virginia Posts: 55	Re: *The One and Only Official Hondata FlashPro Thread* I have I/H/E and going to be getting tbs soon. Should I get flashpro or something else? __________________ 2007 FBP FA5 WTT Comptech Exhaust for LSD or HKS Sport Ti! PM ME

10-20-2009, 05:14 PM	#9
Greg50Lt Junior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: pasadena, md, USA Posts: 963	Re: *The One and Only Official Hondata FlashPro Thread* O0o ok gotcha my bad. I really hope the wifey got the hint that i wanted this for xmas. Hopefully she will get me one if not ill buy it myself. Might also add a new header with this and get my custom tune done. By february she will be runing with the best of them. __________________ 07 fiji FG2: XBL/Gamertag: Greg50Lt 1/4mile : 14.473 @97.72 207whp 151.wtq

10-20-2009, 10:52 PM	#11
i-VTEC_DOHC Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: killafornia Posts: 3,581	Re: *The One and Only Official Hondata FlashPro Thread* so am i the only one with flashpro or something? lol __________________ 2008 Fiji Blue Pearl FG2//2009 Arctic White Mercedes C300 Vouche list - jdmjim,07SIcpe, junnyx1 Economically proven - "The more you save, the less you have."

10-20-2009, 10:56 PM	#12
Ben850 Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Ogden, Utah, USA Posts: 304	Re: *The One and Only Official Hondata FlashPro Thread* i will be getting it soon, right now i just have an injen SRI but i'll soon be installing my TBS and DCRH. flashpro eliminates CEL's from race headers, correct? would this also trick the emissions machine when you get your car registered? __________________ 2008 Fiji Blue FG2

10-21-2009, 07:16 PM	#15
ajpturbopittsburgh Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: West Mifflin, Pa, USA Posts: 465	Re: *The One and Only Official Hondata FlashPro Thread* I can leave my secondary o2 sensor on or off and I get no CEL's. The flashpro doesn't need to trick any emissions equipment. If your car is tuned optimally or running with a correct off the shelf calibration you shouldn't throw CEL's. Usually the CEL's at idle come from running too rich or lean. You shouldn't need a defouler with those race headers. I have a 3" downpipe, no cat, and skunk 2 70mm. I don't throw CEL's. I run closed loop so I idle just the same as a stock civic. So my air fuel ratio is the same as stock civic.

10-21-2009, 07:54 PM	#16
MyLilCivic Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: G town, USA Posts: 491	Re: *The One and Only Official Hondata FlashPro Thread* awsome thread

10-21-2009, 09:28 PM	#17
i-VTEC_DOHC Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: killafornia Posts: 3,581	Re: *The One and Only Official Hondata FlashPro Thread* Update 10-21-09: noticed that my car started backfiring again today due to the colder temperatures that are starting to roll around. not sure if theres flames, but its definitely loud enough for there to be a presence. __________________ 2008 Fiji Blue Pearl FG2//2009 Arctic White Mercedes C300 Vouche list - jdmjim,07SIcpe, junnyx1 Economically proven - "The more you save, the less you have."

10-26-2009, 08:04 PM	#18
i-VTEC_DOHC Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: killafornia Posts: 3,581	Re: *The One and Only Official Hondata FlashPro Thread* latest vid of my car i shot today on my way home from work. excuse the music i forgot to turn it down, but you can still hear everything fine. and thats Bayside playing for anyone who's curious. and yes my car does lose traction in first gear on dry pavement. did these on a set of neogens fyi. __________________ 2008 Fiji Blue Pearl FG2//2009 Arctic White Mercedes C300 Vouche list - jdmjim,07SIcpe, junnyx1 Economically proven - "The more you save, the less you have."

10-26-2009, 08:30 PM	#19
Spoon ITR Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Montgomery NY Posts: 4,126	Re: *The One and Only Official Hondata FlashPro Thread* I guess I'll throw my .02 in on this also. Mods: Injen CAI Strup RH HKS Ti Sport Exhaust Hondata Flashpro The only tweaks I made to my car was my launch control to 3600 with recovery at 3575. I also set the speed limiter from 20360 to 199mph. I still plan on dropping the idle and the over rev some time this week now that I finally have time to do so. My first impressions with the FP were very good. As soon as I started the car after the flash I noticed the car idled different, it sounded like it ran smoother. I backed the car out of my drive way and started to head up my street hardly giving the car 1/4 throttle and I could feel that it wanted to pull even at that throttle. I've had the FP for about 2-3 months now and I still cannot believe how much different the car runs everytime I drive it. The only complaint I have about the FP is it screws up the oil life meter and keeps it at 100%. I cannot wait for this winter to come and make the Si faster and have it dyno tuned using the FP to get the max potential out of the car. __________________ 2007 Civic Si Injen/Strup/HKS/HFP/Tein/Hondata Flashpro Dan Keator Photography-Flickr

10-26-2009, 09:36 PM	#20
i-VTEC_DOHC Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: killafornia Posts: 3,581	Re: *The One and Only Official Hondata FlashPro Thread* ^it only does that on MAP calibrations. on AFM/MAF, it still works. i recommend you use the AFM/MAF with your injen. i tried MAP with my injen and that was an instant no go for me. when i switched back to AFM/MAF, it ran like a champ. i need to tweak my launch control also. i have it set too high for the curent road temps. i use to have wheel hop into vtec then it was just take off like a rocket. i tried to use my launch control today, and i just slammed 8500 like nobody's business. __________________ 2008 Fiji Blue Pearl FG2//2009 Arctic White Mercedes C300 Vouche list - jdmjim,07SIcpe, junnyx1 Economically proven - "The more you save, the less you have."

10-26-2009, 09:55 PM	#21
Spoon ITR Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Montgomery NY Posts: 4,126	Re: *The One and Only Official Hondata FlashPro Thread* Really? What didn't you like about the MAP settings?? I will have to try the MAF map tomorrow after work. I used my launch control on one of the coolest nights we had here at 3600 on Kumho AST's, the car hardly spun and took of like a champ! __________________ 2007 Civic Si Injen/Strup/HKS/HFP/Tein/Hondata Flashpro Dan Keator Photography-Flickr

10-26-2009, 10:36 PM	#22
i-VTEC_DOHC Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: killafornia Posts: 3,581	Re: *The One and Only Official Hondata FlashPro Thread* ^it felt a little sluggish on the bottom end. try the afm/maf and you'll see what i mean. i think the map settings really put all the power up top and took away normal drivability. __________________ 2008 Fiji Blue Pearl FG2//2009 Arctic White Mercedes C300 Vouche list - jdmjim,07SIcpe, junnyx1 Economically proven - "The more you save, the less you have."

10-27-2009, 04:00 AM	#23
Spoon ITR Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Montgomery NY Posts: 4,126	Re: *The One and Only Official Hondata FlashPro Thread* But at the same time does the MAF map take away from the top end that the MAP map's have? __________________ 2007 Civic Si Injen/Strup/HKS/HFP/Tein/Hondata Flashpro Dan Keator Photography-Flickr

10-28-2009, 11:26 AM	#24
i-VTEC_DOHC Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: killafornia Posts: 3,581	Re: *The One and Only Official Hondata FlashPro Thread* im not sure. only a dyno can prove that. __________________ 2008 Fiji Blue Pearl FG2//2009 Arctic White Mercedes C300 Vouche list - jdmjim,07SIcpe, junnyx1 Economically proven - "The more you save, the less you have."

10-28-2009, 04:55 PM	#25
FijiBlueFG2 Member 2008 Honda Civic Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Boston, MA, USA Posts: 1,465	Re: *The One and Only Official Hondata FlashPro Thread* I will definitely be picking this up in the near future. Is it true there is a Injen SRI map? __________________ You can't stand the heat? Get out of the kitchen. It's not my fault you don't know how to stay in your lane.

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