Go Back   Honda-Tech > Honda and Acura Model-Specific Technical Forums > Acura Integra Type-R
Sign in using an external account
Register Forgot Password?
Search


Welcome to Honda-Tech!
Welcome to Honda-Tech.com.

You are currently viewing our forums as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join the Honda-Tech community today!


Reply
 
 
 
submit to reddit
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 04-03-2009, 07:29 AM   #1
jdmeg6b18b
Honda-Tech Member
Garage is empty, add now
 
jdmeg6b18b's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Fl, usa
Posts: 4,146
iTrader Rating: (2)
Send a message via AIM to jdmeg6b18b
Default 90k mile service

I am getting ready to do my 90k mile service and I wasn't sure of when to change the oil pump, I searched but couldn't figure it out. Can anyone tell me when you are supposed to change the oil pump?

Here is a list of what I am doing, let me know if you think of anything else that is really important.

Tranny flush
Radiator flush
Oil change
Valve adjustment
Timing belt/tensioner
Water pump

Thanks.
__________________
PY/ITR #864
jdmeg6b18b is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2009, 12:36 PM   #2
Kr4nG
Honda-Tech Member
Garage is empty, add now
 
Kr4nG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 487
iTrader Rating: (0)
Send a message via AIM to Kr4nG
Default Re: 90k mile service

mind as well do the oil pump when everything is gonna be opened up. you can also do a valve cover and oil pan gaskets they are cheap. assuming your doing the work yourself. dealer charges a lot of money. spark plugs and wires wont hurt it depends how recently you did them. how about some belts check if they are cracking.
Kr4nG is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2009, 10:08 AM   #3
98_R_1123
Honda-Tech Member
Garage is empty, add now
 
98_R_1123's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: san francisco, ca, united states
Posts: 60
iTrader Rating: (0)
Default Re: 90k mile service

Quote:
Originally Posted by jdmeg6b18b View Post
I am getting ready to do my 90k mile service and I wasn't sure of when to change the oil pump, I searched but couldn't figure it out. Can anyone tell me when you are supposed to change the oil pump?

Here is a list of what I am doing, let me know if you think of anything else that is really important.

Tranny flush
Radiator flush
Oil change
Valve adjustment
Timing belt/tensioner
Water pump

Thanks.
you will also need to change your front crankshaft seal, cam seals, belts, plugs, wires cap and rotor, fuel filter. you dont have to change your oil pump just make sure its is not leaking and to be safe you can change the oil pump seal. hondas are synonymous for having a leaky oil pan i would check that and definatly change it if it is leaking, and clean your oil pick up really well while the pan is off. thats all i can think of right now. if anything els comes up ill chime in.
98_R_1123 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2009, 01:22 PM   #4
jdmeg6b18b
Honda-Tech Member
Garage is empty, add now
 
jdmeg6b18b's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Fl, usa
Posts: 4,146
iTrader Rating: (2)
Send a message via AIM to jdmeg6b18b
Default Re: 90k mile service

I want to do the work my self, I am pretty mechanically inclined and usually do maint. on my own. The only problems are a space to do the work and I don't know how to do the timing. Anyone in the Murphy, NC area that wants to lend a hand LMK.
__________________
PY/ITR #864
jdmeg6b18b is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2009, 05:00 PM   #5
Redcoupe
Honda-Tech Member
1998 Acura Integra
 
Redcoupe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Portsmouth, Va, Usa
Posts: 1,432
iTrader Rating: (0)
Send a message via AIM to Redcoupe
Default Re: 90k mile service

Quote:
Originally Posted by jdmeg6b18b View Post
I want to do the work my self, I am pretty mechanically inclined and usually do maint. on my own. The only problems are a space to do the work and I don't know how to do the timing. Anyone in the Murphy, NC area that wants to lend a hand LMK.
I have no idea on where Murphy, NC is.... I'm basically in Va Beach, Va.

I mean, you can replace the oil pump if you'd like to but I've continued to use my factory one for plenty of mines.

I've torn apart 160,000 mile B16a's that had been turbocharged and the oil pump was well within clearances from Honda and the gears showed no wear.

Then again, mine was fine on my R motor then the motor blew and I tore it apart to check it out and yikes, scores all over the place.

If you take yours off. Hit it with some brake cleaner to get it cleaned up, put it on the NC Honda forums/or on here and sell it for 60 bucks. I get a new one for around 90 to 100 bucks. Don't forget to replace the little o-ring on the backside of the pump.
__________________
Accuracy Automotive & Ramey Built www.RameyBuilt.com
06 TSX & 92 GSR.
Redcoupe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2009, 06:29 PM   #6
jdmeg6b18b
Honda-Tech Member
Garage is empty, add now
 
jdmeg6b18b's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Fl, usa
Posts: 4,146
iTrader Rating: (2)
Send a message via AIM to jdmeg6b18b
Default Re: 90k mile service

I am going to check out a few local shops to do the work for me, hate to do it that way but I don't know what else to do.
__________________
PY/ITR #864
jdmeg6b18b is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2009, 08:14 PM   #7
koji126
Honda-Tech Member
Garage is empty, add now
 
koji126's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 332
iTrader Rating: (0)
Default Re: 90k mile service

Here's from the maintenance list:

90,000 miles/6 yrs Scheduled Maintenance

Recommended service:

Replace engine oil.
Rotate tires.
Replace engine oil filter.
Check pads and discs for wear (thickness) and damage.Check calipers for leaks and check tightness of mount bolts.
Check parking brake adjustment. Should be fully applied within 6 to 10 clicks.
Check steering linkage for looseness.Check fluid lines for damage and leaks.Check condition of rack boots.
Check bolts for tightness.Check condition of ball joint boots for deterioration and damage.
Inspect driveshaft for cracks and check boot bands for tightness.
Inspect brake hoses and lines (including ABS). Check the master cylinder, proportioning controlvalve and ABS modulator for damage and leakage.
Check all fluid levels, condition of fluids and check for leaks. If needed, add transmission fluid, engine coolant, brake fluid, power steering fluid, and windshield washer fluid.
Check for damage, leaks and deterioration.Check for proper fan operation.
Inspect exhaust system. Check catalytic converter heat shield, exhaust pipe, and muffler for damage, leaks, and tightness.
Inspect fuel lines and connections. Check for leaks.
Replace air cleaner element.
Inspect and adjust drive belts.
Replace spark plugs (if applicable).
Check valve clearance when engine is cold.
Replace brake fluid; use Genuine Honda DOT 3.
Replace transmission fluid; use Genuine Honda ATF or MTF.
__________________
1998 CW ITR #0791
2010 SSM Fit Sport
koji126 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-07-2009, 07:15 AM   #8
nsxtasy
H-T Order of Merit
Garage is empty, add now
 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: Chicago
Posts: 23,475
iTrader Rating: (0)
Default Re: 90k mile service

One thing that is not specified but which I recommend is replacing the cooling system hoses - definitely the two large ones (upper and lower radiator hose), and I think there are a few small ones that are optional. This is great preventive maintenance, and a good time to do it - not only because of the long interval (in time and miles) but also because you are already flushing the coolant anyway.
nsxtasy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-07-2009, 07:30 AM   #9
jdmeg6b18b
Honda-Tech Member
Garage is empty, add now
 
jdmeg6b18b's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Fl, usa
Posts: 4,146
iTrader Rating: (2)
Send a message via AIM to jdmeg6b18b
Default Re: 90k mile service

Sounds good, I would like to replace those with samco hoses if I replace them. I will have to see how it goes with the funds. I may wait to flush the coolant for another time. I called a local shop they want $250 in labor, I really want to do this myself but I am a little nervous.
__________________
PY/ITR #864
jdmeg6b18b is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-07-2009, 12:50 PM   #10
jdmeg6b18b
Honda-Tech Member
Garage is empty, add now
 
jdmeg6b18b's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Fl, usa
Posts: 4,146
iTrader Rating: (2)
Send a message via AIM to jdmeg6b18b
Default Re: 90k mile service

Okay, so I called Acura and they said you don't have to change the T belt till 105k. Then I called another dealership and they said anywhere between 90k-105k. So I may delay this portion for a month or so. So I guess I will just do what they recommend at at 90k plus a couple other things that I need to do i.e. full fluids flush, and new thermostat.

If anyone would like to put input on the timing belt situation I would appreciate it greatly. Thanks.
__________________
PY/ITR #864
jdmeg6b18b is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-07-2009, 09:22 PM   #11
nsxtasy
H-T Order of Merit
Garage is empty, add now
 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: Chicago
Posts: 23,475
iTrader Rating: (0)
Default Re: 90k mile service

Quote:
Originally Posted by jdmeg6b18b View Post
Okay, so I called Acura and they said you don't have to change the T belt till 105k. Then I called another dealership and they said anywhere between 90k-105k.
I hate it when dealerships give out wrong/incomplete information.

Here's the "official" recommendation from Honda, the one you can find if you look in your owner's manual and service manual. (You might try doing that, BTW. You might learn something - like the real answers to your questions. You DO have a service manual, right? You'll need it to do all this work on your car.)

On the '97 and '98, they recommend that the timing belt be changed after 90K miles or 6 years, whichever comes first.

They changed the recommendation so that on the '01, they recommend that the timing belt be changed after 105K miles or 7 years, whichever comes first.

I don't know whether the '00 recommendation is the same as the '97-98, or the '01.

Whatever year ITR you have, it is anywhere from 8 to 12 years old. If it has not already had the timing belt changed, it is overdue by anywhere from 1 year (for an '01) to 6 years (for a '97), even if you have not hit 105K miles yet.

Just change it. Especially if you're going to be doing a bunch of work on the car anyway.
nsxtasy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2009, 07:11 AM   #12
jdmeg6b18b
Honda-Tech Member
Garage is empty, add now
 
jdmeg6b18b's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Fl, usa
Posts: 4,146
iTrader Rating: (2)
Send a message via AIM to jdmeg6b18b
Default Re: 90k mile service

Thanks, that clears things up alot. Looks like I am going to have to bite the bullet.
__________________
PY/ITR #864
jdmeg6b18b is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2009, 09:48 AM   #13
nsxtasy
H-T Order of Merit
Garage is empty, add now
 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: Chicago
Posts: 23,475
iTrader Rating: (0)
Default Re: 90k mile service

Yeah, but keep in mind - once all this stuff is done, you won't have to do it again for a long, long time!
nsxtasy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2009, 10:57 AM   #14
irev210
Honda-Tech Member
Garage is empty, add now
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Southern cali or boston
Posts: 5,699
iTrader Rating: (0)
Send a message via AIM to irev210
Default Re: 90k mile service

yah, a lot of people forget that after time the rubber just starts to rot/weaken, even with low miles.

even if your R has 10 miles on it, it should have had the timing belt changed, per honda maintenance schedule.


as for hoses, you should really inspect them for bulging/cracking around where the hoses slip over ports... big hose or little hose, if it breaks, you still have a major problem
__________________
MY VOUCH THREAD
Click to see my vouch thread

irev210 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2009, 11:02 AM   #15
nsxtasy
H-T Order of Merit
Garage is empty, add now
 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: Chicago
Posts: 23,475
iTrader Rating: (0)
Default Re: 90k mile service

Quote:
Originally Posted by irev210 View Post
as for hoses, you should really inspect them for bulging/cracking around where the hoses slip over ports... big hose or little hose, if it breaks, you still have a major problem
Yeah, that's why I recommended replacing them (or at least the big ones).
nsxtasy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2009, 11:11 AM   #16
totsie7944
Member
Garage is empty, add now
 
totsie7944's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Somewhere in MD, MD, USA
Posts: 4,558
iTrader Rating: (0)
Send a message via AIM to totsie7944
Default Re: 90k mile service

If you lived closer I'd do all this for free. If you've done it before you can pretty much do it all in about 5 hours with basic tools in your driveway. The timing is easy to do. Get a helms and you should be good man. If you need any specific help just PM me.

Go ahead and do the oil pump, water pump, timing belt, adjuster, seals, and all gaskets, and valve adjustment.

Stuff like brakes, rotors, calipers, plugs, wires, oil, etc should be part of your regular "checkups" you can do yourself on the car.
totsie7944 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2009, 11:25 AM   #17
esponet
Honda-Tech Member
Garage is empty, add now
 
esponet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: here, there, everywhere
Posts: 3,021
iTrader Rating: (0)
Default Re: 90k mile service

Quote:
Originally Posted by jdmeg6b18b View Post
Okay, so I called Acura and they said you don't have to change the T belt till 105k. Then I called another dealership and they said anywhere between 90k-105k. So I may delay this portion for a month or so. So I guess I will just do what they recommend at at 90k plus a couple other things that I need to do i.e. full fluids flush, and new thermostat.

If anyone would like to put input on the timing belt situation I would appreciate it greatly. Thanks.
if i'm not mistaken the belts are the same part numbers. but before 00 recomendation is at 90k, after that, they recomend it at 105. rumor has it they did this so they (manufacturer) can claim no major maintenance until pass 100k miles. big selling point. from past experience i have not seen a honda oe belt last pass 110-120k miles. they usually brake around that time frame.

edit they are the same part number.
14400-P72-014, Timing Belt
esponet is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2009, 10:04 AM   #18
jdmeg6b18b
Honda-Tech Member
Garage is empty, add now
 
jdmeg6b18b's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Fl, usa
Posts: 4,146
iTrader Rating: (2)
Send a message via AIM to jdmeg6b18b
Default Re: 90k mile service

Okay, so I am doing it myself and I just want to make sure as far as the timing belt area that I have everything covered. I plan to change the oil pump seal on the crankshaft side, timing belt and water pump/gasket and coolant. Also debating camshaft seals. Those make me a little nervous because I am afraid I will accidently move them when I unbolt the gears. I don't plan to remove the oil pump and check it out. Is that a bad Idea? Thanks for all your continuous help. I appreciate it.
__________________
PY/ITR #864
jdmeg6b18b is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2009, 12:52 PM   #19
nsxtasy
H-T Order of Merit
Garage is empty, add now
 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: Chicago
Posts: 23,475
iTrader Rating: (0)
Default Re: 90k mile service

Quote:
Originally Posted by esponet View Post
if i'm not mistaken the belts are the same part numbers. but before 00 recomendation is at 90k, after that, they recomend it at 105. rumor has it they did this so they (manufacturer) can claim no major maintenance until pass 100k miles. big selling point. from past experience i have not seen a honda oe belt last pass 110-120k miles. they usually brake around that time frame.
On an ITR, if it's never been done before, the mileage interval doesn't matter; either way, it's overdue based on the time interval, overdue by anywhere from 1 to 6 years.
nsxtasy is offline   Reply With Quote
 
 
 
submit to reddit
Reply

Tags
2003, 2005, 90000, 90k, acura, civic, flush, honda, integra, interval, mile, odyssey, radiator, service, tsx

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 02:43 AM.



2008 Copyright, InternetBrands Inc.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

Honda and the Honda marquee are registered trademarks of the American Honda Motor Company, Inc. Neither American Honda Motor Company nor its subsidiaries or affiliates shall bear any responsibility for Honda-Tech.com content, comments, or advertising. Honda-Tech.com is not affiliated with American Honda Motor Company in any way. American Honda Motor Company does not sponsor, support, or endorse Honda-Tech.com in any way. Copyright/trademark/sales mark infringements are not intended or implied.
Emails & Contact Details