DO_ITR_YoungD_19

Ive been hearing about this recall but i think i might be too late. My mom has a 2000 Acura TL and i heard about the recal but i think i might be out of the date range to qualify. The car has 84xxx miles on it. Can anyone here tell me if i still qualify to get the transmission fixed thru this recall? Thanks.

02-type-s

Yes, if its acting up, take it to a dealer. It was extended to 107,000 miles, and some dealers will goodwill cover it beyond that.

dtapia

correct some dealers will do a good will warranty if you a good customer in standing. the best bet is to contact your local acura dealer and ask.

YeuEmMaiMai

there is NO TRANS RECALL for failiure of the unit only a recall for 2nd gear overheat issue.

there is a warranty extension that is 7 years and 9 months or 109K miles (there may be a 5K addon due to odometer settlement) from the "in service" date

it will be listed as "delivery date" on a typical Acura Invoice next to make and model of car

DO_ITR_YoungD_19

OK thanks for the info guys.

02-type-s

Its 3rd gear, and if it is worn beyond a certain point, they replace the entire tansmission. Mine was completely replaced at 91,000.

YeuEmMaiMai

the fix was for 2nd gear overheat

3rd gear is for manual cars and 2000 TL was not a manual........as it came in 2 trims

with or without navigation and both cars had the craptastic 5at

02-type-s

Well, my 3rd gear is what was showing signs of overheating and they replaced the entire unit.

YeuEmMaiMai

yeah, in the auto the third gear gets toasted because the fluid reaches in excess of 315F (insta toast) and burns the clutch pack.... but the extended warranty covers the transaxle for ANY failure......

in a nut shell there is insufficient lunbrication for the 2/3 shift (up or down) and it toasts 3rd gear.

Sometimes ( like me ) all you get is a code set for Automatic transaxle malfuction and the unit "appears" to operate just fine....the first time I went to my friend's house and parked my car. Came out [D5] was blinking as soon as i started the car. turned the car off and on again, no problem. 2000 miles later, I am driving to work and i got within 1 mile and [D5] was blinking again. drive home and next 2 days, no problem. Took car in for service and they said I get a new trans and an 08TL as loaner.......1 week later I got my car back and it has driven fine ever since although the car does not quite have the bite it used to when you stomped on it.......

pignoseSR

sooo, nissan owner thinking of getting a 03 acura tl. but after hearing of all these tranny issues im having second thoughts. just wondering if they have fixed this probem yet..

YeuEmMaiMai

late 05 and newer models are fine. The replacement transmissions have redesigned cases for better oil flow..

pignoseSR

yaa, but i was lookin to get a 03. i really like it and cant afford the newer ones

02-type-s

Don't even worry about it. They extended the recall to 107,000 miles. Not all 03s however, are covered. The 4spd auto in the 99s are pretty solid, but the 00-02s were almost ALL covered, and some into early 2003.

YeuEmMaiMai

even if the 03 isn't specifically covered Acura will more often than not, good will all of it

BlkB16aEJ

I have a 2003 acura TL-S with 56,306 miles, and i made an account on Acura.com It said..."Your 2003 Acura is included in the 00-04 CL & TL A/T RECALL Campaign." So this means that if my tranny goes out i am covered right???? I will call Honda of America to verify, and see up to how many miles this is covered for. I hope it is also 107,000 Miles. If anyone has an answer to my question i greately appreciate it.

BlkB16aEJ

I bought my car a few days ago, and i am not sure if the previous owner ever took it to get it checked out or if the tranny has ever been replaced. I hope Honda of American can help me, and i hope i am covered.

YeuEmMaiMai

car should be covered if the following is listed under recalls on the left side of owner's link

Your 2003 Acura is included in the 2000-03 TRANS WARRANTY EXT Campaign. Description 2000-03 TRANS WARRANTY EXT
Date 09/27/2002
Type Recall Customer Letter
Status Open


Schedule Service Appointment



unless it has been flagged by acura for some reason so do as you suggested and call the local acura dealer. to know for sure

the official warranty terms are

7 years 9 months or 109K miles from the in service date. on a typical acura invoice it is listed as "Delivery Date" and is to the immediate right of "Year Make Model" at the top of the invoice.

YeuEmMaiMai

oops to access this information login to owner's link
click on your car listed at the top
click on service and maint
click on recalls left side

BlkB16aEJ

Thanks for the fast response.. This is exactly what it says.....
Your 2003 Acura is included in the 00-04 CL & TL A/T RECALL Campaign.
Description 00-04 CL & TL A/T RECALL
Date 06/29/2004
Type Recall Customer Letter
Status Fixed

It says FIXED so im guessing the tranny has been replaced??? or the car has been taken in to be looked at and everything checked out ok. I still want to call and verify. I hope they know if my car's tranny has already been replaced. If so i hope i am still covered until 109,000miles. You never know if it has a "new" tranny it might go out too.

BlkB16aEJ

I called Honda of America, and they said that my car was previously inspected, and a an oil jet kit was installed. They said that my car is not covred until the 108,000 miles : (, but if something were to occure they might be willing to cover it. She said it is based on case by case basis. If something does go wrong with the tranny I will just try to complain and try to get Honda to cover the cost. If you think about it the oil jet kit might be like a band aid. Hopefully nothing goes wrong with my tranny. It drives like a new car.

YeuEmMaiMai

best thing for you to do is maintain service records on your car.

they installed an oil jet kit to resolve the 2nd gear (physical steel gear) overheat issue. The oil jet does work very well, however it does nothing to resolve the 3rd gear clutch pack overheat and death issues.

BlkB16aEJ

cool thanks for the advice.. : ) DEATH ISSUE???

YeuEmMaiMai

yeah, 3rd gear overheats because there is insufficient lubrication for that gear's clutch packs. The temp of the fluid reaches in excess of 315F and that is enough to break down the trans fluid almost immediately. as the fluid breaks down, it does not protect the clutch pack and it wars realy fast.

1grex

bottom line:
If you have a 4 speed auto ('99-'00) and change the fluid every 30K you're good
If you have a 5 speed auto ('00-05) warranty is extended to ~ 109K, prorated "goodwill" warranty case by case basis after ~ 109K, reman trannys have 3 year 36K warranty. Change the fluid every 30K anyway.
If you have a 5 speed auto ('05-current) transmission design is improved, and so far real world results verify this. Change the fluid every 30K anyway.
If you have a 6 speed manual, all is well except for some "third gear pop-out" issues in the '04-'07. If a dealer can verify the complaint, updated 3rd gear sychros are covered thru the 4 year 50K factory warranty, prorated goodwill case by case after that. All 6 speeds '08 and later have improved sychros from the factory.

YeuEmMaiMai

just one comment on the above

1.If you have a 98-02 4at that was reman after 02-05 you should be good original 98-02 units have 3 main issues:

a. substardard differential bearings
b. 2nd gear overheat (the PHYSICAL GEARSHAFT) oil kit resolves that
c. 2nd gear clutch pack insufficient lubrication that is worsened by the main filter ( an inline screen ) getting clogged with metal shavings from (a) or clutch pack material (c)

the reman 98-02 models delete the internal filter and add one inline with the cooler line for easy change.

there is still a significant failure in 03-05 cars that use the 5at up to about mid model year 05 (but it's nowhere near the previous 5at failures) when they changed out the AT castings for improved ones. The previous 03-mid 05 Accord and the 04-mid 05 TL units are identical to the ones used before.

the new 5at is a 4 shaft design used starting in 07 i believe