Go Back   Honda-Tech > Community Forums > General Discussion and Debate
Sign in using an external account
Register Forgot Password?
Search


Welcome to Honda-Tech!
Welcome to Honda-Tech.com.

You are currently viewing our forums as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join the Honda-Tech community today!


Reply
 
 
 
submit to reddit
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 10-13-2008, 02:57 PM   #1
shamoo
Will you make something up for me please?
2008 BMW M3
 
shamoo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: SoCal
Posts: 6,135
iTrader Rating: (0)
Default How to keep rodents/critters out of car?

My girlfriend's car (Scion tC) recently had some electrical issues that were found out to be caused by rodents getting at the wiring. Other problems with the fan, check engine light, etc surfaced and she eventually took it to the dealer. Over the weekend, they found loads of acorns, rodent crap, fur, etc all over the air filter, piping, etc.

She lives in a somewhat colder area of northern NJ and it seems to be a somewhat common problem (as per the dealer). What type of precautions can we take to prevent this? They suggested moth ***** and cheesecloth. I don't even know what cheesecloth is. Click the image to open in full size.

I did post this issue previously before we found out the cause of the misfiring and someone suggested mountain lion urine, but I couldn't find that stuff anywhere (searched in hunting and sports stores in the area). I put some peanut butter and a mousetrap in the engine bay on two separate occasions and caught two mice. I can't catch every thing, and don't want to be spending $200-300 each time there's a rodent infestation in the car.

Any ideas would greatly be appreciated!

__________________
'12 Fit Sport w/navi | '08 E92 M3 (Sold) | '07 S2000 (Sold) | '01 S2000 (Stolen) | '97 Integra LS (Sold)
'12 Monster 796 ABS | '05 YZF-R6 (Sold)
shamoo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-13-2008, 03:08 PM   #2
saywhat
Honda-Tech Member
2013 Hyundai Azera
 
saywhat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 1,329
iTrader Rating: (0)
Default Re: How to keep rodents/critters out of car? (shamoo)

Block the entrance to intake with some wire mesh... and **** in the engine bay.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by George Knighton View Post
Oh, I am sorry. I didn't realise it was a woman.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Archidictus View Post
don't do anything to diminish the look, size or feel of "the D".
saywhat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-13-2008, 03:09 PM   #3
JustHere4ADay
WHEEL Slayer
1997 Honda Civic
My Garage
 
JustHere4ADay's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Keyboard Warrior / CT
Posts: 2,373
iTrader Rating: (0)
Capt James H00k Justhere4aday
Default FV-QR

had this problem with my evo.. happen once tho
__________________
Born too late to explore the world, born too early to explore the universe, but born just in time to fight for basic liberties...Too many people on earth today infected with apathy http://jalopnik.com/Fun-With-A-Sawzall/
JustHere4ADay is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-13-2008, 03:13 PM   #4
CivicSD
Honda-Tech Member
Garage is empty, add now
 
CivicSD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: CLAIREMONT, SAN DIEGO CALI
Posts: 1,209
iTrader Rating: (0)
LETSRACEFOOL
Default Re: How to keep rodents/critters out of car? (shamoo)

I no scare I vacuum it. I no scare I vacuum it.
__________________
There are three types of people in this world: those who can count and those who can't.
CivicSD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-13-2008, 03:15 PM   #5
JimmyHoffa
Garage is empty, add now
 
JimmyHoffa's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Marrero, Louisiana, United States
Posts: 4
iTrader Rating: (0)
Send a message via AIM to JimmyHoffa
Default Re: How to keep rodents/critters out of car? (shamoo)

Click the image to open in full size.
__________________
I use these outside of h-t; [img]http://images.honda-tech.com/set1/smile/emthdown.gif[/img] [img]http://images.honda-tech.com/set1/smile/emthup.gif[/img]
JimmyHoffa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-13-2008, 04:10 PM   #6
B.
400 HP Club
1994 Honda Civic
 
B.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Kills, Canada
Posts: 3,066
iTrader Rating: (0)
Default Re: How to keep rodents/critters out of car? (JimmyHoffa)

bounce sheets..
B. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-13-2008, 04:16 PM   #7
slomofo
GDD Member
1991 Geo Metro Type-R
 
slomofo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 4,639
iTrader Rating: (1)
solbrothers xtrac1 George Knighton ILcrxsi1 uncle_ben markspan6243
Send a message via ICQ to slomofo Send a message via AIM to slomofo Send a message via MSN to slomofo Send a message via Yahoo to slomofo Send a message via Skype™ to slomofo
Default

I saw this a few years ago while reading TSBs for a Corolla I think. I always thought somebody put it there jokingly and didn't think it actually happened.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by turbohatch96y7 View Post
I love a good creampie!
slomofo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-13-2008, 04:20 PM   #8
cb7tuned
Honda-Tech Member
Garage is empty, add now
 
cb7tuned's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: I HAS VTEC YO
Posts: 217
iTrader Rating: (0)
Default Re: How to keep rodents/critters out of car? (shamoo)

I swear to god that this must be a "Jersey" thing.


The lady I bought my car from was from jersey and when I went to the put the heat on in the car the fan was not turning.

I took a look under the dash and I found about 4 dead baby mice and the mom.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach McGuirk
I like my pockets fat and my bitches FATTER!
[
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Phil
You're just poor, you piece of ****. Make some actual money with a real job and you won't complain about being such a broke bastard.
cb7tuned is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-13-2008, 04:20 PM   #9
SDT Project EF
Honda-Tech Member
Garage is empty, add now
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: San Jose, CA, USA
Posts: 1,206
iTrader Rating: (0)
Send a message via AIM to SDT Project EF
Default Re: (slomofo)

Garage is not an option? I dont think there is anythign you can do besides getting a dog or soemthing, but it sounds like it would be too cold for the dog even.
SDT Project EF is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-13-2008, 05:42 PM   #10
CivicSD
Honda-Tech Member
Garage is empty, add now
 
CivicSD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: CLAIREMONT, SAN DIEGO CALI
Posts: 1,209
iTrader Rating: (0)
LETSRACEFOOL
Default Re: How to keep rodents/critters out of car? (shamoo)

the thing is, mice and rats love to eat insulation. They eat the protective insulation on wires, which is major!! My truck has a sound dampening material under the hood, which has a nice chunk chewed out of it by mice. Luckily they didnt get to any wires.

The only thing you can do is pest control. I suggest you hire a professional contractor to find all the possible entry ways for rats and mice into the garage. CLOSE THOSE HOLES UP! then you can set mouse traps with peanut butter. It works like magic.

If this isnt a localized pest control problem (like if you dont even have a garage and your area just has hungry *** rats in general) then i suggest you find a nicer place to live
__________________
There are three types of people in this world: those who can count and those who can't.
CivicSD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-13-2008, 05:46 PM   #11
Quik Chris
Honda-Tech Member
1994 Honda Civic
 
Quik Chris's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Denver, Colorado
Posts: 1,770
iTrader Rating: (0)
Default Re: How to keep rodents/critters out of car? (CivicSD)

Quote:
Originally Posted by CivicSD
then i suggest you find a nicer place to live
Like Claremont, SD Click the image to open in full size.
__________________
Importsports Performance & Dyno
'05 Forester XT::'94 EJ1 K20A2
Importsports SFWD Civic: 9.45@159mph
Quik Chris is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-13-2008, 05:52 PM   #12
shamoo
Will you make something up for me please?
2008 BMW M3
 
shamoo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: SoCal
Posts: 6,135
iTrader Rating: (0)
Default Re: How to keep rodents/critters out of car? (Quik Chris)

Thanks for the suggestions guys. I will clarify....

The area is quite nice, it's just up north in the mountains in Jersey. When it's raining down south, it's snowing up there. It's very cold there most of the time, and that's why rodents like finding a warm place to stay.

The garage is most likely not an option. Her brother keeps his non-running late 80's MR2 in there. It's been in the process of an engine swap for like 4 years now. Click the image to open in full size. Unfortunately, she's not going to argue with him to move his car even though her car is 20 years newer.
__________________
'12 Fit Sport w/navi | '08 E92 M3 (Sold) | '07 S2000 (Sold) | '01 S2000 (Stolen) | '97 Integra LS (Sold)
'12 Monster 796 ABS | '05 YZF-R6 (Sold)
shamoo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-13-2008, 06:06 PM   #13
CivicSD
Honda-Tech Member
Garage is empty, add now
 
CivicSD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: CLAIREMONT, SAN DIEGO CALI
Posts: 1,209
iTrader Rating: (0)
LETSRACEFOOL
Default Re: How to keep rodents/critters out of car? (Quik Chris)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Quik Chris

Like Claremont, SD Click the image to open in full size.
Click the image to open in full size. by the way SD stand for san diego, not south dakota Click the image to open in full size.
__________________
There are three types of people in this world: those who can count and those who can't.
CivicSD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-13-2008, 06:08 PM   #14
Quik Chris
Honda-Tech Member
1994 Honda Civic
 
Quik Chris's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Denver, Colorado
Posts: 1,770
iTrader Rating: (0)
Default Re: How to keep rodents/critters out of car? (CivicSD)

Quote:
Originally Posted by CivicSD

Click the image to open in full size. by the way SD stand for san diego, not south dakota Click the image to open in full size.
LOL!!!111

Check this out: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=...=addr

Claremont, SD... the the middle of BF'in NOWHERE!

I was all... damn, that guy lives in the Boonies! No wonder he knows so much about vermin! Click the image to open in full size. Click the image to open in full size. Click the image to open in full size.
__________________
Importsports Performance & Dyno
'05 Forester XT::'94 EJ1 K20A2
Importsports SFWD Civic: 9.45@159mph
Quik Chris is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-13-2008, 06:09 PM   #15
njn63
Honda-Tech Member
1993 Mazda Miata
 
njn63's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Gurnee, IL
Posts: 5,364
iTrader Rating: (0)
Default Re: (SDT Project EF)

Quote:
Originally Posted by SDT Project EF
Garage is not an option? I dont think there is anythign you can do besides getting a dog or soemthing, but it sounds like it would be too cold for the dog even.
Mice get inside of houses, you think they won't get in a garage?

Get some rat poison and put it in the car. You could also use moth ***** but they smell terrible.
__________________
2000 S2000 Hardtop // 1993 Miata // 2010 Jetta TDI Cup
njn63 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-13-2008, 06:10 PM   #16
CivicSD
Honda-Tech Member
Garage is empty, add now
 
CivicSD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: CLAIREMONT, SAN DIEGO CALI
Posts: 1,209
iTrader Rating: (0)
LETSRACEFOOL
Default Re: How to keep rodents/critters out of car? (Quik Chris)

Quote:
Originally Posted by quick chris
by the way SD stand for san diego, not south dakota

LOL!!!111

Check this out: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=...=addr

Claremont, SD... the the middle of BF'in NOWHERE!

I was all... damn, that guy lives in the Boonies! No wonder he knows so much about vermin!
lol theres like 5 houses in that hood..... LOL!!!!

nah i live here

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=...&z=17


and i know so much about vermin cause i had some in my garage a while back.... but i deal with them every day at work (appliance repair) insurance will not cover damage caused by pests, so i am trained to look for traces of pests

that means if a stove is broken, and i find a city of rat poop inside, the home insurance will not pay for any repairs....
__________________
There are three types of people in this world: those who can count and those who can't.
CivicSD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-13-2008, 06:11 PM   #17
shamoo
Will you make something up for me please?
2008 BMW M3
 
shamoo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: SoCal
Posts: 6,135
iTrader Rating: (0)
Default Re: (njn63)

Quote:
Originally Posted by njn63
Mice get inside of houses, you think they won't get in a garage?

Get some rat poison and put it in the car. You could also use moth ***** but they smell terrible.
They never get into the actual passenger compartment I don't think. Never saw one or detected any rodent droppings/residue on the inside. They're always in the engine bay in the nooks and crannies. Can I put moth ***** in there? But won't they just move around everywhere when you drive?
__________________
'12 Fit Sport w/navi | '08 E92 M3 (Sold) | '07 S2000 (Sold) | '01 S2000 (Stolen) | '97 Integra LS (Sold)
'12 Monster 796 ABS | '05 YZF-R6 (Sold)
shamoo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-13-2008, 06:26 PM   #18
njn63
Honda-Tech Member
1993 Mazda Miata
 
njn63's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Gurnee, IL
Posts: 5,364
iTrader Rating: (0)
Default Re: (shamoo)

Quote:
Originally Posted by shamoo

They never get into the actual passenger compartment I don't think. Never saw one or detected any rodent droppings/residue on the inside. They're always in the engine bay in the nooks and crannies. Can I put moth ***** in there? But won't they just move around everywhere when you drive?
The rat poison I've always used was about 1" by 2" solid pieces of it and was rectangle shaped. If you have a garage you could also just throw some on the floor under where you park and around the garage in general as long as you don't have any animals that would get into it. Not sure how it'd stand up to heat under the hood... I've only used it when storing cars for the winter.

Moth ***** under the hood could work too.

If they're under the hood, they eventually will work into the passenger compartment. From what I've seen, a favorite place to build a nest is in the blower fan. Click the image to open in full size.
__________________
2000 S2000 Hardtop // 1993 Miata // 2010 Jetta TDI Cup
njn63 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-13-2008, 06:37 PM   #19
shamoo
Will you make something up for me please?
2008 BMW M3
 
shamoo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: SoCal
Posts: 6,135
iTrader Rating: (0)
Default Re: (njn63)

Quote:
Originally Posted by njn63
The rat poison I've always used was about 1" by 2" solid pieces of it and was rectangle shaped. If you have a garage you could also just throw some on the floor under where you park and around the garage in general as long as you don't have any animals that would get into it. Not sure how it'd stand up to heat under the hood... I've only used it when storing cars for the winter.

Moth ***** under the hood could work too.

If they're under the hood, they eventually will work into the passenger compartment. From what I've seen, a favorite place to build a nest is in the blower fan. Click the image to open in full size.
Yes! That was exactly it. It screwed up the blower fan so anything above 3 levels of fan power, and it would make a terrible noise. They found lots of rodent stuff in that area. Click the image to open in full size.

We did get some of the poison. I believe it's the same stuff you're talking about. Little green rectangular things, right? We did put them in the shed and around the house, as well as in the garage. After about a week or so, you could see bits and pieces of it being eaten. Even if we did keep buying those poison things, it would be impossible to kill all the critters. They will eventually find their way back to the car again.

Do you think the offending animals could be chipmunks? There are tons of them everywhere. Or are they usually mice? We've seen them only in the car's engine bay when I caught them.
__________________
'12 Fit Sport w/navi | '08 E92 M3 (Sold) | '07 S2000 (Sold) | '01 S2000 (Stolen) | '97 Integra LS (Sold)
'12 Monster 796 ABS | '05 YZF-R6 (Sold)
shamoo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-13-2008, 06:39 PM   #20
J_Marc
Honda-Tech Member
Garage is empty, add now
 
J_Marc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 403
iTrader Rating: (0)
Default Re: (shamoo)

Quote:
Originally Posted by shamoo

They never get into the actual passenger compartment I don't think. Never saw one or detected any rodent droppings/residue on the inside. They're always in the engine bay in the nooks and crannies. Can I put moth ***** in there? But won't they just move around everywhere when you drive?
They'll get as far as they possibly can, make a nest with anything they can, and with as much as they can possibly fit.

I've seen this so many times it's ridiculous. From experience I'd have to say once they're gone, they're gone. I've never heard of it happening twice to anyone and usually it happens when the car's been sitting for just a little while.

I've seen it go as far as the heater ducts, my step father had turned on the heater in his Chevy Tracker and all the junk came flying through, dirt, grass, lint, and cigarette butts. Then there's the stuff I saw when I work at different shops. One time we asked the customer if she wanted any toast with her bill, we had found two pieces of toast and some other stuff in the air box while checking the filter. At a dealership the service adviser showed the customer a bucket full of acorns and asked her if she collected those, the air box was full, her car was acting up because there wasn't enough air getting through. Last but not least there was a little mouse that went to far, a customer turned on her car one morning and the blower motor started making all kinds of noise. Mr. Mouse had been impaled by the blower fan, and needed to be physically removed.
J_Marc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-13-2008, 06:43 PM   #21
njn63
Honda-Tech Member
1993 Mazda Miata
 
njn63's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Gurnee, IL
Posts: 5,364
iTrader Rating: (0)
Default Re: (shamoo)

Quote:
Originally Posted by shamoo
Yes! That was exactly it. It screwed up the blower fan so anything above 3 levels of fan power, and it would make a terrible noise. They found lots of rodent stuff in that area. Click the image to open in full size.

We did get some of the poison. I believe it's the same stuff you're talking about. Little green rectangular things, right? We did put them in the shed and around the house, as well as in the garage. After about a week or so, you could see bits and pieces of it being eaten. Even if we did keep buying those poison things, it would be impossible to kill all the critters. They will eventually find their way back to the car again.
Yep, same stuff. Every bit helps, but I generally just keep it around where I park my car to keep the ones finding their way over there dead. I believe the smell of moth ***** actually repels them where the poison is just a blood thinner that kills them so maybe moth ***** would be a better idea. I hate putting them inside my car though because the smell never leaves. Click the image to open in full size.

Quote:
Originally Posted by shamoo
Do you think the offending animals could be chipmunks? There are tons of them everywhere. Or are they usually mice? We've seen them only in the car's engine bay when I caught them.
Doubtful. Mice are some destructive pieces of ****. The amount of damage they do is surprising. I'm not sure why but I've also rarely seen them inside of cars except for the blower fan. A couple of the cars that we stored for years got them inside eating stuff (I remember them in the headliner of a Barracuda, ugh) but never for stuff we stored short term.
__________________
2000 S2000 Hardtop // 1993 Miata // 2010 Jetta TDI Cup
njn63 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-15-2009, 04:59 PM   #22
nodrift
Junior Member
Garage is empty, add now
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Western Oregon
Posts: 0
iTrader Rating: (0)
Default Re: How to keep rodents/critters out of car?

I never popped the hood on Scion, but have been able to keep mice out of my 96 Civic and just finished trying something similar on my 09. So far they haven't chewed on the wiring.

I pulled the wiper arms and the plastic strip at the base of the windshield. In the 96, which has no AC, the heater fan is on the passenger side, sitting in a housing by the windshield. I cut a piece of 1/4" hardware cloth and wrapped it over the fan housing AFTER cleaning a wad of fiberglass insulation out of the fan. Lucky there were no baby mice, etc. Hardware cloth is like window screen with 1/4" openings, so it lets in a lot of air. I also wrapped a piece of vinyl window screen over the air intake and held it on with tie-wrap because mice went up the intake and shredded the air filter. [Had mice do this before and paid a garage to clean it out, but that didn't FIX anything]

On the 09, they gnawed a hole through the material around the AC, which is in the same space as the fan in the old car. That let them into the glove box and inside the car. Found a nest started in the glove box. Could see light in the glove box when the hhood was up. I put in a few pellets of D-Con mouse poison. Then I went through the same drill, only a lot harder, because stuff is much deeper back under the windshield in the new car. There was an opening that I covered with 1/4" hardware cloth, only this time I screwed it to the edges with self-tapping screws. The mice had pulled some sound insulation off and started a nest in this shelf under the windshield edge. More D-Con before closing it all up again.
nodrift is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-15-2009, 05:04 PM   #23
Presto800
B*a*n*n*e*d
Garage is empty, add now
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Redmond, Wa, USA
Posts: 927
iTrader Rating: (0)
Default Re: How to keep rodents/critters out of car?

Burn the car
Presto800 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-15-2009, 05:09 PM   #24
erk89
Junior Member
Garage is empty, add now
 
erk89's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: mn
Posts: 291
iTrader Rating: (0)
Default Re: How to keep rodents/critters out of car?

Buy (or steal the nieghbors) cat, they tend to be good at keeping mice and rodents away.

Source: Tom and Jerry
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brad_and_the_acc View Post
I never said anything about "UBER PANTS SHITTING POWER" I said more powerful, Like 5 - 15 hp.
erk89 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-16-2009, 01:03 AM   #25
Knightsport
You're a daisy if ya do
2009 Ford F-250
My Garage
 
Knightsport's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location: The Deep Web
Posts: 100,270
iTrader Rating: (0)
Knightsport
Default Re: How to keep rodents/critters out of car?

Click the image to open in full size.
__________________
I'm your Huckleberry.

http://honda-tech.com/forumdisplay.php?f=11
Knightsport is offline   Reply With Quote
 
 
 
submit to reddit
Reply

Tags
air, balls, box, car, compartment, eating, engine, filter, glove, moth, nest, poo, rat, rodent, rodents, stored, vehicles

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 12:29 PM.



2008 Copyright, InternetBrands Inc.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

Honda and the Honda marquee are registered trademarks of the American Honda Motor Company, Inc. Neither American Honda Motor Company nor its subsidiaries or affiliates shall bear any responsibility for Honda-Tech.com content, comments, or advertising. Honda-Tech.com is not affiliated with American Honda Motor Company in any way. American Honda Motor Company does not sponsor, support, or endorse Honda-Tech.com in any way. Copyright/trademark/sales mark infringements are not intended or implied.
Emails & Contact Details