twistedimage

ok I have seen so many write ups on the power door conversions for the 92-95 civics. none of them have been complete or correct. now before you say its correct because it works, this is the way it should be done.


we will start here, this is a complete car harness for a civic ex coupe.



start by taking it apart




you will notice the plug that plus into the pass door will start to seperate out this is the wires on the left




then you will come to the part that is mounted to the fire wall on your donar harness. you will need to strip the tape of it as well. (notice the plug for the door in the back round, it is still attached to the wires.)



then we will take apart the grey plactic surround. it is held togher with a series of clips use a flat head to seperate them




this is how it will come apart



then continue stripping you wires out for your new sub harness



then you will end at a series of 3 plugs. the plug in my right hand will be the one you keep.



here is what it looks like



this is the back side of it. this is all the wires for your conversion.



but then you will notice that you have 2 wires that are still in the main harness. if you follow these 2 wires they will end up in a nother plug.



you do not need to follow them that far, but if you do they will end up here



cut them




then you will end up with these 2 wires. a brown/black tracer and a red/green tracer I belive these are the correct colors. (dont have the harness in front of me at the moment)

these 2 wires are for your door speaker. when you take out your other harnees door harnees to install the new door harness you will notice that it is only 2 wires. connect the cabin side of that 2 ire harness to these 2 wires.



here is whats left of the main harness



after that mess of stuff this is what you will be left with.



after you are done seperating it all out this is what you will be left with



grab some good e-tape and tape it up



now you will have your pass door sub harness, that you made out of the main harness



ok now we need a power drivers door dont we! so you will start with the main part of the drivers side harness




and like the other side find the door harness and start seperating it out you will get to this point and find these 2 plugs they are clipped togher. seperate the clips as we will only be using the smaller one



when you strip some more out of the harness you will find this green plug as well.
the green plug will plug into the fuse box and the grey plug is not used



you will also notice this long green plug . that goes to your dash and will be the plug you use for the power mirror switch



and as before you will have to cut just 2 wires they are the blue and grey ones shown here these are the speaker wires for the driver side. you will splice these the same way you did the pass side



another pic of that grey plug on the drivers side and a ground strap. when you hook this all up there are a ton of spots on the drivers side where you can ground this



drivers side sub harness shoud be e-taped up like the pass side



now you can install these sub harness in your car however you want. I usually run them along side the main harness of the car I am working on.

this is what you should have now minus the fuse box



this is the install part. I will be showing you this on the ground with the fuse box out of the car. this way everyone can see clearly how this goes in.once you get that far you will plug in both grey clips from the pass side and the drivers side.



the green plug on the drivers harness plugs into the back of the fuse box. you do not<U></U> need to use the EX fuse box all the fuse boxes are the same internally.



just another pic to show exactly where to plug it in



then on the front of the fuse block you will have to add a 4 pin relay into this spot.



this is what it should look like if you did it correct



now you need to add 5 20 amp fuses for all this power stuff you will put them here



then it should look like this





now enjoy your power windows locks and mirrors.

i did not take any pics of installing the door lock actuators, window regulators or mirrors. i figure you have this all installed by now.

you will need all this stuff for the conversion, including both door wire harness and the relay in the drivers door. if you guys need pics of the door stuff hit me up.

thanks guys

Modified by twistedimage at 10:21 AM 7/6/2008


Modified by twistedimage at 10:27 AM 7/6/2008

twistedimage

got all the pics up loaded will finish the write up tomorrow

guess_who

looks like its gonna be a great write up

twistedimage

thanks hopefully it will be put in the faq

BlueIntegraBoy

iTrader: (5)

Looks like a bunch of spaghetti.

4drkidd

Sweet, just what I was looking for.
Thanks bro

twistedimage

no problem guys. i will have the other pics up tomorrow

twistedimage

updated.

hoo my gosh

cool. but why didn't you just swap the whole harness over

twistedimage

why that would be way more of a pain. plus a coupe harness will not fit a hatch unless highly modified. so why not just take what you need.

guess_who

on a scale of one to ten. i give this an eleven. now its time to get to work on my eg

twistedimage

thanks man. i done this swap a few times. and when i search for it all i got was foggy answers. so i did it again and thought i would write it up

Rydock

Hey great write up! I was going to do this swap this weekend and now this helps a lot; I'm glad I found this thread. Seems like it's better to get the wires you need rather than swapping the whole harness.

I don't know if you mentioned this, but how do you go about getting the new harness from the cabin to the doors. I bought the swap a whole ago and it came with a bunch of parts and like a million plugs on the harness. I remember it came with a little box has a few plugs on it or something. I only need to have the power windows. My car already has power mirrors. And what are the brown speaker wires for

I'm sorry if you mentioned this already but I didn't see it after reading this thread about 3 times. Thanks for this guide.

bpkmrtoes

i separated the floor harness long time ago at a junk yard but i had no idea what i could cut off. now i'll have enough guidance to do this conversion. thanks. good writeup.

Rydock

Ok so I looked at my harness today and it looked so much different than the one in your pictures. Anyways the box I was talking about was labeled door lock control (which I won't be using). Only need the power windows. I'm still a bit confused about all of this, and I'm gonna take another look at the harness before I start cutting it up. It also had these 2 huge plugs that don't seem to plug into each other.

twistedimage

thanks guys no problem

i will get some pics of the doors tomorrow

Rydock

That would be great. I'm afraid I might be missing a few parts I need for the window conversion. The person I bought it from said that it was everything I needed.

twistedimage

got busy yesterday will get them pics today

d357r0y

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What are the big differences between the coupe and hatch harnesses? I have a complete EX harness along with power door/power folding mirror wiring and was going to swap it all over in one go but after you saying this I'm curious about what problems I'm going to run into.

FG2 chilotz

That was great straight forward and to the point. Love it. I wish I had this when i ripped out my floor harness and swapped in the EX one that only opens my driver side windows and still no power locks! That was some bullshit. But you simplify everything that must be done and its clean! Can't wait to tear mines appart! Thank you Can you say Sticky!?

twistedimage

thanks guys they put this in the faq section. and like stated before just take what you need out of the ex harness. life will be much easier

Mugenkid

Thats a big help i'm power doors on my eg si.

d357r0y

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Possibly.. but I have more to worry about than just wiring up windows/locks/mirrors. The previous owner of my car butchered the harness where it plugs into the ECU and I've been dealing with grounding problems ever since I've had the car. My plan was to replace the entire harness and do away with one problem while adding the power options at the same time.. I do have the Helms manual, I suppose I can just get out the wiring diagrams side by side and compare and see what's different.

twistedimage

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Possibly.. but I have more to worry about than just wiring up windows/locks/mirrors. The previous owner of my car butchered the harness where it plugs into the ECU and I've been dealing with grounding problems ever since I've had the car. My plan was to replace the entire harness and do away with one problem while adding the power options at the same time.. I do have the Helms manual, I suppose I can just get out the wiring diagrams side by side and compare and see what's different. </TD></TR></TABLE>

damn that sucks

good luck

stevanrk

Not being a ***** but your second pic shows you cradling the harness in your left arm and slicing with a razor blade TOWARDS you with the right. I was doing a similar motion on a trailing arm bushing and slipped, cuttting into my thumb quite deep. I then changed my cutting strokes to AWAY from the body. I still can't feel 100% out of the thumb and it healed months ago! Your scar on the left forearm in the same pic tells me that you're also a bit like me and keep doing whatever works, and not necessarily the safest thing, lol. Nice post otherwise. There should be a hell of a lot more diys like these.