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Old 03-19-2008, 01:55 PM   #1
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Default AlienBees Lighting Setup (What do you guys think?)

I just called AlienBees and spoke to a specialist. I am trying to do product photography.

This is the setup that they recommended.

http://www.alienbees.com/

(2) B800 AlienBees - $279.95
(2) Foldable Medium softboxes - $119.95
(2) 13-foot Heavy Duty Light Stand - $69.95

Everything, including shipping is $962.07.

Sounds like a good price. What do you guys think? Is this setup sufficient?

Any recommendations on backdrops?
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Are you getting paid for it? If not make youself a light box out of a cardboard box and go buy some 30 dollar 500w shoplights..

If it's just a "for fun" thing, why spend a grand? That's crazy talk..

Though at the same time, that combo there is good for portraits too, and anything else you want to light well, and is easily expanded on..
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Old 03-19-2008, 06:29 PM   #3
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If it's just a "for fun" thing, why spend a grand? That's crazy talk..
That's crazy talk... Click the image to open in full size.

I mean, who here bought their first camera and couple lenses becuase they had intentions of using it for a living... I'm willing to bet most of us started out just for fun.

re: the strobes, your guess is as good as mine But I always hear good thinga about AB stuff.
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Old 03-19-2008, 07:36 PM   #4
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ive used those alien bees at school for the past few years and i love them. if your trying to get some really nice lights those would be great.
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Go big or go home. I'm standing by my new motto of do it right the first time and spend less money. Besides I'm sure the resale value on that stuff is pretty good so you'll only lose a little bit of it, well alteast on the lights.
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Old 03-20-2008, 11:34 AM   #6
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I would get one beauty dish, not two softbox incase you want to shoot model and ppls (1 softbox is enough). What do you mean by product pictures?. 1medium softbox 1beauty dish. I wouldnt get those stand I would get something else, do your research and look for others first.. AB stand's arent that great.. they are okay... Also for ab800 you might need to buy a portable power supply for onlocation.. if not those baby will stayed at home, thats the only downfall from flashstrobe from abstrobe.. but abstrobe produce 8348398 more lights and give better quality and lighting in the pictures.
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This setup will be in-house. I have no plans on taking it elsewhere.

I am using two softboxes to get an even distribution of light on both sides.

I am not sure if I plan on hanging it overhead.
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if thats the direction you want to go then yea, maybe you should give it a little thoughts first.
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Two softboxes stacked ontop one another is classic glamor lighting. Very flattering and even.


Fine, go with the AB stuff. You'll have fun with all the things you can do with lights, thats for sure.. Wait till you get more addicted..
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Don't forget about purchasing some sort of trigger for the flashes.

You're probably going to want to fire wirelessly,

Pocketwizards if you want to spend the dough, or you could go with the elinchrom skyport setup, maybe cheapo catus v2 if you're broke.

I also hear good stuff about AB, i really want to buy their ringflash and power supply.
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I'll probably get pocket wizards to use with two 580EX's.

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Check into the new Radiopoppers... a new product that allows control of Canon and Nikon off camera flashes (with each respective system).
Looks like a good alternative to PW's... supposed to be good products. Mike Fulton used a set at this years Champagne Shootout.

http://www.radiopopper.com/

Here's a vid made by Mike... http://www.tricoastphoto.com/rp-wppi08.html


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Sorry to thread jack but is there a tutorial on how to make a light box?
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http://honda-tech.com/zerothread/2254903
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Sounds good to me. I have heard good things bout there products and from being active on there forums love there customer service!! 1000 bucks for 2 strobes with soft boxes. THATS CHEAP!! at least for a decent product. I paid alot more for less stuff. if i would have done it over i would have started with Bee's since i shoot alot of location and you dont have a heart attack when a AB product falls, since there customer service, warranty and durability are great!! I have there vagabond and its a lifesaver and when there are updates they give you amazing deals on the upgrades.

you get what you pay for. With that said, good choice on the pocket wizards, quality, i dropped mines shooting yesterday from a good distance, thought i just broke $200 investment, picked it up, put it on the camera, worked like a charm!

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If you want to drop $1k into that set up, that's fine but you could probably get more for the money with a slightly different set up depending what body you use.

I use one B800 with a reflective umbrella and two speedlites (usually a 580ex and 430ex)
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You could get by using two speedlites but I prefer using three to make sure the background is white-out.
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Check into the new Radiopoppers... a new product that allows control of Canon and Nikon off camera flashes (with each respective system).
Looks like a good alternative to PW's... supposed to be good products. Mike Fulton used a set at this years Champagne Shootout.

http://www.radiopopper.com/

Here's a vid made by Mike... http://www.tricoastphoto.com/rp-wppi08.html
I never heard of this brand. Thanks for the heads up.

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If you want to drop $1k into that set up, that's fine but you could probably get more for the money with a slightly different set up depending what body you use.

I use one B800 with a reflective umbrella and two speedlites (usually a 580ex and 430ex)

You could get by using two speedlites but I prefer using three to make sure the background is white-out.
I have two 580EX II's, but I didn't want to mix light setups. It will make my life easier.
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I have two 580EX II's, but I didn't want to mix light setups. It will make my life easier.
If you have two 580s, then you don't need two more B800s. The 580s are sufficient in taking care of the lighting needs for product photography.
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