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saikou · 11-10-2007, 01:02 PM

... possibly a stickied thread for reviews? I was kind of disappointed when I was looking for any type of review on specific cat-backs, as I was primarily trying to find pictures without going through all the pages in the picture thread.

For a couple weeks now, I have had my Apex'i N1, despite mgags recommending the GT spec to me - this was a hundred dollars cheaper; depending on where you buy from (HopUpRacing). I've seen the GT spec retail close to $700 at some of the websites I looked at. Although the full stainless steel of the GT spec would be nice, however, I can live without it in Texas. Apparently, it sounds different compared to the N1 as well.

For a whole month I debated on which cat-back to choose, as I am very picky and didn't want to have an exhaust shop weld me up one. Both the Tanabe Super Medalion Hyper Spec & RS*R tips stick past the bumper and that just bothered me... not by much, but like I said, I'm very picky. Just about everyone and their friends, have the Greddy Evo2 & Apex'i WS2 and I wasn't about to try something that I had no idea what would look like on a 4th gen (HKS, 5Zigen, Espelir). And why not the Thermal classic? Because they don't offer the dual-tip muffler for the 4th gen, as they do for the 5th gen guys. If they had, I'd be all over it. I just wanted a quick cat-back I could bolt on, sell later in the future if I end up selling the car, fairly popular and which appealed to the eyes... despite the potato-launcher muffler.

Overall, I am happy with the purchase. After taking my original cat-back off, I noticed the previous owner hollowed out my catalytic converter, causing me to believe this shit was going to be 4-door Civic raaaaspy. Surprisingly, it is not at all and doesn't drone out in the cabin. Its not even that loud as so many people have claimed, unless you really punch it. Although I'm not completely satisfied with the sound coupled with the hollowed out cat, I will be replacing the cat shortly, which should cause a noticeable difference in sound... and so I can pass inspection.

I am dissatisfied with how low the piping hangs, although this can be modified by adjusting the rubber hangers with adjustable hose clamps. And if I'm not mistaken, the WS2 also has this problem with ground clearance on lowered Preludes. Another complaint, its obviously not stainless steel as I mentioned above like the GT spec. You could have spent the same money on a Greddy Evo2 and still have the potato-launcher muffler, but have a full stainless steel exhaust to prevent rusting.

Anyway you choose, this is a quality cat-back.

I've avoided all speed bumps thus far and have gotten owned by a steep incline, but be careful my friends.

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BLANCOh22a4 · 11-10-2007, 02:12 PM

ive heard more bad things about the n1 than good, the most common thing that I hear is that it is very obnoxiously loud. Just hearing that does not make me want one

hamadiscool · 11-10-2007, 02:21 PM

I have a stainless steel megan catback that I got for under $200 used. I am pretty sure you can get a new one for around $300 for a 4th gen.

Good write up though! Thanks for the pics

, but could use a video with some sound.

Acidcrakker · 11-10-2007, 02:21 PM

Is that last pic Championship White

If not

subydoored · 11-10-2007, 02:31 PM

i've got the n1 and i like the sound if you dont like loud put the silencer in it and then its not loud at all. My car is lowered and i have no issues with it rubbing and drive over speed bumps once a week.

JDMgareth · 11-10-2007, 03:42 PM

I like the apexi n1.

spoon down > magnaflow hi-flow cat > resenator > n1

sounds very good, never rasp except for extremely suddle rasp near 8k rpms

saikou · 11-10-2007, 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BLANCOh22a4

ive heard more bad things about the n1 than good, the most common thing that I hear is that it is very obnoxiously loud. Just hearing that does not make me want one

It is loud, just like any other straight through muffler, but obnoxiously loud? Not at all, unless you're running a test pipe or have no resonator.

Quote:

Originally Posted by hamadiscool

I have a stainless steel megan catback that I got for under $200 used. I am pretty sure you can get a new one for around $300 for a 4th gen.

Good write up though! Thanks for the pics

, but could use a video with some sound.

Unfortunately for 4th gens, the Megan cat-back sticks out unnecessarily too far. However, it is fairly cheap and having the exhaust cut and re-welded back a little further would most likely not even come close to the price of an Apex'i, Greddy or Tanabe product.

Thanks for the comment. I wish I had the resources to video record the sound.

mgags7 · 11-10-2007, 04:55 PM

Good review

I found out the guy that bought my catback shortly after sold his car. Boo. I loved the sound of that thing.

98vtec · 11-10-2007, 05:01 PM

i never had a problem with the N1 sound on a STOCK catalytic converter.

becareful with the canister and hitting the underside. It will eventually crack the muffler and make it sound bad.

good review. I'll add it to the faq

ECX · 11-10-2007, 06:56 PM

To the OP, what is your car's suspension setup? I was thinking about getting this exhaust but was worried about clearance too... Just wondering how low our car's can be without worrying really bad about the exhaust getting ripped off.

LudeSH · 11-10-2007, 07:04 PM

I had one on my 5th gen...I loved it!. It was nice and deep. Not to quiet or to loud.

saikou · 11-10-2007, 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ECX

To the OP, what is your car's suspension setup? I was thinking about getting this exhaust but was worried about clearance too... Just wondering how low our car's can be without worrying really bad about the exhaust getting ripped off.

I honestly haven't the slightest clue. I purchased the car lowered. Not sure of the brand springs, but they're blue.

ECX · 11-10-2007, 08:12 PM

Sprint or Intrax, maybe H&R?

Well even at that, about how far would you say is your exhaust piping (the lowest point) from the ground?
Scared it's going to get horribly screwed after I get one...

saikou · 11-10-2007, 08:21 PM

I'll try and get some measurements tomorrow. I still need to modify the rubber hangers after the cat to raise up the resonator a bit, hopefully. You'll have the same issue on lowered cars with an Apex'i WS2 or with the Greddy Evo2 (muffler clearance) to my knowledge.

Greddy Evo2

Luckily for me, I don't drive more than an average 10 miles away from my house to worry about road hazards or speed bumps.

Hawkze_2.3 · 11-10-2007, 08:24 PM

Good review but your tow hook is too dirty, get under there and clean!!

Looks like it does hang pretty low, but then your car is pretty low overall. Coilovers next on the list?

saikou · 11-10-2007, 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hawkze_2.3

Good review but your tow hook is too dirty, get under there and clean!!

Looks like it does hang pretty low, but then your car is pretty low overall. Coilovers next on the list?

Would be nice to have, so I could raise it up a bit. Might possibly be next, never really thought about it until now, thanks... having to spend more money now.

H22Honda98 · 11-10-2007, 08:40 PM

i love mine........deep in low rpm's...........screams up high

saikou · 11-11-2007, 09:49 AM

Here are 2 shots with the smallest phone I could find to get an idea on how low this setup will be on a lowered car:

muffler

resonator

ECX · 11-11-2007, 10:00 AM

That is really close to the ground.
I'll have to see what suspension mods I end up doing before I buy this one... lol

11-10-2007, 02:12 PM	#2
BLANCOh22a4 Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: where beautiful women instinctively flock like the, USA Posts: 1,405	Re: Do we have reviews here? Apex'i N1 review... (saikou) ive heard more bad things about the n1 than good, the most common thing that I hear is that it is very obnoxiously loud. Just hearing that does not make me want one

11-10-2007, 02:21 PM	#3
hamadiscool Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Houston/Austin, tx, Usa Posts: 843	Re: Do we have reviews here? Apex'i N1 review... (BLANCOh22a4) I have a stainless steel megan catback that I got for under $200 used. I am pretty sure you can get a new one for around $300 for a 4th gen. Good write up though! Thanks for the pics , but could use a video with some sound. __________________ 1998 Honda Prelude

11-10-2007, 02:21 PM	#4
Acidcrakker Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 3,370	Re: Do we have reviews here? Apex'i N1 review... (BLANCOh22a4) Is that last pic Championship White If not __________________ Jim- 14.85 @ 97 mph Speaking Out Against Authority Figures Since 4/23/1983

11-10-2007, 02:31 PM	#5
subydoored Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: lisbon falls, maine, usa Posts: 1,039	Re: Do we have reviews here? Apex'i N1 review... (Acidcrakker) i've got the n1 and i like the sound if you dont like loud put the silencer in it and then its not loud at all. My car is lowered and i have no issues with it rubbing and drive over speed bumps once a week.

11-10-2007, 03:42 PM	#6
JDMgareth Join Date: May 2007 Location: Eau Claire, WI, USA Posts: 152	Re: Do we have reviews here? Apex'i N1 review... (subydoored) I like the apexi n1. spoon down > magnaflow hi-flow cat > resenator > n1 sounds very good, never rasp except for extremely suddle rasp near 8k rpms __________________ [92.BB2.h22]Ridin' with no tint so the motherf*ckers know it's me

11-10-2007, 04:55 PM	#8
mgags7 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Between headphones, NC Posts: 14,523	Good review I found out the guy that bought my catback shortly after sold his car. Boo. I loved the sound of that thing. __________________ Matt ███

11-10-2007, 05:01 PM	#9
98vtec Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: RealHomeMadeTurbo Posts: 14,228	Re: Do we have reviews here? Apex'i N1 review... (saikou) i never had a problem with the N1 sound on a STOCK catalytic converter. becareful with the canister and hitting the underside. It will eventually crack the muffler and make it sound bad. good review. I'll add it to the faq

11-10-2007, 06:56 PM	#10
ECX * B A N N E D * Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Hendersonville, NC, USA Posts: 655	Re: Do we have reviews here? Apex'i N1 review... (98vtec) To the OP, what is your car's suspension setup? I was thinking about getting this exhaust but was worried about clearance too... Just wondering how low our car's can be without worrying really bad about the exhaust getting ripped off.

11-10-2007, 07:04 PM	#11
LudeSH Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Murfreesboro, TN, usa Posts: 4,061	Re: Do we have reviews here? Apex'i N1 review... (ECX) I had one on my 5th gen...I loved it!. It was nice and deep. Not to quiet or to loud. __________________ Lying is the most fun a girl can have without taking her clothes off.

11-10-2007, 08:12 PM	#13
ECX * B A N N E D * Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Hendersonville, NC, USA Posts: 655	Re: (saikou) Sprint or Intrax, maybe H&R? Well even at that, about how far would you say is your exhaust piping (the lowest point) from the ground? Scared it's going to get horribly screwed after I get one...

11-10-2007, 08:21 PM	#14
saikou Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: rawr i ate city Posts: 454	I'll try and get some measurements tomorrow. I still need to modify the rubber hangers after the cat to raise up the resonator a bit, hopefully. You'll have the same issue on lowered cars with an Apex'i WS2 or with the Greddy Evo2 (muffler clearance) to my knowledge. Greddy Evo2 Luckily for me, I don't drive more than an average 10 miles away from my house to worry about road hazards or speed bumps.

11-10-2007, 08:24 PM	#15
Hawkze_2.3 Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Further down the spiral, TX, usa Posts: 9,515	Re: Do we have reviews here? Apex'i N1 review... (saikou) Good review but your tow hook is too dirty, get under there and clean!! Looks like it does hang pretty low, but then your car is pretty low overall. Coilovers next on the list? __________________ 95 Prelude -intake, windshield washer lights, rear body kit, carbon fiber windows

11-10-2007, 08:40 PM	#17
H22Honda98 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Whiteland, IN, USA Posts: 407	Re: Do we have reviews here? Apex'i N1 review... (saikou) i love mine........deep in low rpm's...........screams up high

11-11-2007, 09:49 AM	#18
saikou Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: rawr i ate city Posts: 454	Here are 2 shots with the smallest phone I could find to get an idea on how low this setup will be on a lowered car: muffler resonator

11-11-2007, 10:00 AM	#19
ECX * B A N N E D * Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Hendersonville, NC, USA Posts: 655	That is really close to the ground. I'll have to see what suspension mods I end up doing before I buy this one... lol

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