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killyourscene · 11-29-2007, 01:48 PM

What kind of formula does our car use? Is the gm syncromesh a universal formula? Do all light duty trannys use 5w-30?

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killyourscene · 11-29-2007, 05:14 PM

anybody know???

johnnycivic66 · 11-29-2007, 06:14 PM

Awfully helpful, thanks for that!

massholeSINHBP · 12-07-2007, 09:44 AM

I went to the dealership a couple times with this problem and first they told me that it was break in. next they changed the transmission fluid which helped a little but they told me if it does not get better they would put in a new transmission.(under warranty) if i end up switching it out ill post.

Built CRX · 01-02-2008, 12:44 PM

Anyone hear of having shifting problems in the 08's? I just recently purchased this car, I haven't noticed any of the symptoms above and hopefully I don't so I was just a little curious if anyone on here has experienced that yet.

Topshot · 01-02-2008, 04:45 PM

As this seems to be common enough, but are there any members that have NOT had an incident of the invisible 3rd gear?

piotrush · 01-03-2008, 07:28 PM

I think I'm going to stop by the dealership soon too. The issues been getting more common. True I work less than 5 miles from home and usually go there in the cold mornings, but I've noticed the problem even after I've driven on the highway for some time.

jaepalm · 01-04-2008, 05:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Built CRX

Anyone hear of having shifting problems in the 08's? I just recently purchased this car, I haven't noticed any of the symptoms above and hopefully I don't so I was just a little curious if anyone on here has experienced that yet.

Got my 08 Si in Oct. Annoying grind. Especially in the cold. Took it to "my guy". syncromesh. 99 problems. shifting ain't one...anymore.

lostjap89 · 01-05-2008, 06:32 AM

ive been to the dealership twice and both times they say they could not duplicate the problem. and as soon as im leaving the dealership there it goes again. i heard there was a service bulletin for it could someone get me a link if there is.

piotrush · 01-05-2008, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by lostjap89

ive been to the dealership twice and both times they say they could not duplicate the problem. and as soon as im leaving the dealership there it goes again. i heard there was a service bulletin for it could someone get me a link if there is.

x2

Blurry · 01-09-2008, 06:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Topshot

As this seems to be common enough, but are there any members that have NOT had an incident of the invisible 3rd gear?

I bought my 06 Si used w/8700 miles. I never had an issue with 3rd gear but, when I changed my motor oil to AMSOIL I switched the MTF to AMSOIL just to be safe and it shifts even better...but again, never had an issue with 3rd.

Topshot · 01-10-2008, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Blurry

I bought my 06 Si used w/8700 miles. I never had an issue with 3rd gear but, when I changed my motor oil to AMSOIL I switched the MTF to AMSOIL just to be safe and it shifts even better...but again, never had an issue with 3rd.

Hmm, I should change out the MTF on mine just to be on the safe side. Isn't there suppose to be a Honda service bulletin this month about this issue? I keep reading that. I'd rather have them do the work and pay for the MTF if I can.

PsychoSiRex · 01-30-2008, 09:57 PM

I'm having similiar problems with my 06si w/33k, mostly I95 to/from work. Haven't been to a race track, but do drive "spirited" once in awhile. I switched to the "new" Honda MTF, and made shifting better for a bit, but then still get notchy, stubborn shift every so often. I do agree this most prevelent in mornings/cold weather, but once engine is warm for past 10mi at what RPM do you guys still expiernce problems????

chiquito · 01-31-2008, 10:34 AM

i had the fluid changed for free (even though i'm at 40K miles and over warrantee).

they did a one-time-favor type thing. the shifting is noticeably smoother. not a ton a difference, but the car feels new again.

PsychoSiRex · 01-31-2008, 05:33 PM

at what RPMs is everyone expierncing problems????? after engine is warm of course.

summitshark · 02-08-2008, 02:13 AM

I've had this problem with two tranny's. I had the transmission replaced at 16k miles because the gears were torn up. They claimed I abused it but i just ground in 2nd and 3rd all the time. I have fun with it every now and then but I never abused it. This 2nd tranny does it too. I am thinking of putting royal purple into it.

jaepalm · 02-08-2008, 05:11 AM

i'm running the purple too, but syncromesh is the key.

summitshark · 02-08-2008, 12:20 PM

ok, i'll check it out. Thanks

piotrush · 02-08-2008, 04:09 PM

Hope this works, not sure if this was posted here yet, but I didn't see in on the first page so its not getting enough exposure...

http://s134.photobucket.com/al...o.flv

CRXone · 02-22-2008, 10:29 AM

Cought this on the news in San Diego....

Hopefully soon Honda will recall the transmission, otherwise i will sell my car

Quote:

Originally Posted by piotrush

Hope this works, not sure if this was posted here yet, but I didn't see in on the first page so its not getting enough exposure...

http://s134.photobucket.com/al...o.flv

bmac · 02-27-2008, 01:23 PM

"1. Shuffle through your gears upon initial start-up while idling -- Give the shifter a quick run through all the gears to allow the fluid to get moving"

-I believe the car has to be moving to actually get the fluid to move around. The fluid is just sitting in the bottom of the trans. when cold. There may be some trace fluid left on the gears, but not much(other than what they are sitting in) They need to be in motion(driving) to get the fluid to move about. Maybe drive easy till things warm up. Mine seems to do it when @ normal operating temp. though.

Just some info I thought I'd add.

Yunque5 · 03-15-2008, 09:43 AM

I have an 08 and I've noticed some issues with my third gear. Occationally seconds gear. I thought the put the MTF in the 08's?

Chiovnidca · 03-15-2008, 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TRE_

There have been[rare ] cases where people have had gears or syncro's replaced by Honda but only when the gear grind or pop-up becomes really evident

Yea, we have to be able to reproduce the problem first. Seems a lot of people dont have the time to leave their car for a proper diagnosis. If you drive your car in and say "hey i 'm in a hurry, and i have this problem. but it only happens when the car is cold. And I have to be at work in an hour." That makes it kind of hard to verify a problem.

We've replace a bunch of 3rd gearsets, fixes em every time.

zapper · 03-17-2008, 12:17 AM

i have the same issue with 3rd gear, grinds easy but only popped out once. Dealer cant duplicate the problem.....so it goes unfixed. Isnt there supposed to be a recall for this soon?

pgpbubble · 03-17-2008, 10:15 AM

Hang tight guys, There will be a new TSB out soon that includes a new designed third gear that will be replaced under warrenty. It should be out next month.

11-29-2007, 05:14 PM	#27
killyourscene Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: alta loma, ca, usa Posts: 232	Re: $$ FAQ: Third 3rd Gear grind scratch transmission trans sticky pop-out $$ (killyourscene) anybody know??? __________________ 07 Si Nighthawk Black Pearl Coupe http://images.honda-tech.com/set1/smile/emwink.gif

11-29-2007, 06:14 PM	#28
johnnycivic66 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Forest Park, IL, 60130 Posts: 24	Re: $$ FAQ: Third 3rd Gear grind scratch transmission trans sticky pop-out $$ (TRE_) Awfully helpful, thanks for that!

12-07-2007, 09:44 AM	#29
massholeSINHBP Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Fitchburg/Tampa, ma/fl, usa Posts: 2	Re: $$ FAQ: Third 3rd Gear grind scratch transmission trans sticky pop-out $$ (TRE_) I went to the dealership a couple times with this problem and first they told me that it was break in. next they changed the transmission fluid which helped a little but they told me if it does not get better they would put in a new transmission.(under warranty) if i end up switching it out ill post.

01-02-2008, 12:44 PM	#30
Built CRX Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Schenectady, New York, 12309 Posts: 34	Re: $$ FAQ: Third 3rd Gear grind scratch transmission trans sticky pop-out $$ (massholeSINHBP) Anyone hear of having shifting problems in the 08's? I just recently purchased this car, I haven't noticed any of the symptoms above and hopefully I don't so I was just a little curious if anyone on here has experienced that yet. __________________ 2008 Civic si sedan

01-02-2008, 04:45 PM	#31
Topshot Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: WA Posts: 477	Re: $$ FAQ: Third 3rd Gear grind scratch transmission trans sticky pop-out $$ (Built CRX) As this seems to be common enough, but are there any members that have NOT had an incident of the invisible 3rd gear? __________________ Former 98 ITR#368 Now 06 WRX STI

01-03-2008, 07:28 PM	#32
piotrush Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Stamford, CT Posts: 1,817	Re: $$ FAQ: Third 3rd Gear grind scratch transmission trans sticky pop-out $$ (Topshot) I think I'm going to stop by the dealership soon too. The issues been getting more common. True I work less than 5 miles from home and usually go there in the cold mornings, but I've noticed the problem even after I've driven on the highway for some time. __________________ Prelude SH parts FS: email: piotrush82@hotmail.com - Spoon strut bars F+R ($250)

01-05-2008, 06:32 AM	#34
lostjap89 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: cathedral city, ca, us Posts: 204	Re: $$ FAQ: Third 3rd Gear grind scratch transmission trans sticky pop-out $$ (jaepalm) ive been to the dealership twice and both times they say they could not duplicate the problem. and as soon as im leaving the dealership there it goes again. i heard there was a service bulletin for it could someone get me a link if there is. __________________ 2006 EX KIA :'( but then comes the si 2007 Fiji FA5 : skunk2 70mm : Skunk2 tie bar : P2R TBS : K&n drop in : Royal Purple :

01-30-2008, 09:57 PM	#38
PsychoSiRex Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: mean streets of maryland Posts: 223	I'm having similiar problems with my 06si w/33k, mostly I95 to/from work. Haven't been to a race track, but do drive "spirited" once in awhile. I switched to the "new" Honda MTF, and made shifting better for a bit, but then still get notchy, stubborn shift every so often. I do agree this most prevelent in mornings/cold weather, but once engine is warm for past 10mi at what RPM do you guys still expiernce problems????

01-31-2008, 10:34 AM	#39
chiquito Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Corvallis, OR, 97331 Posts: 109	i had the fluid changed for free (even though i'm at 40K miles and over warrantee). they did a one-time-favor type thing. the shifting is noticeably smoother. not a ton a difference, but the car feels new again. __________________ '06 NHBP Si. Auger boot, OEM allseason mats in front, 22% tint 225/45/17 bridgestone potenza pole position tires. old car: '06 RX-8 http://images.honda-tech.com/set1/smile/emthup.gif

01-31-2008, 05:33 PM	#40
PsychoSiRex Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: mean streets of maryland Posts: 223	at what RPMs is everyone expierncing problems????? after engine is warm of course.

02-08-2008, 02:13 AM	#41
summitshark Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Tucson, AZ, USA Posts: 2	I've had this problem with two tranny's. I had the transmission replaced at 16k miles because the gears were torn up. They claimed I abused it but i just ground in 2nd and 3rd all the time. I have fun with it every now and then but I never abused it. This 2nd tranny does it too. I am thinking of putting royal purple into it. __________________ 2006 Si habanero red pearl

02-08-2008, 05:11 AM	#42
jaepalm Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Baltimore, MD, USA Posts: 323	Re: (summitshark) i'm running the purple too, but syncromesh is the key. __________________ Goodbye '95 Saturn hellooo '08 NHBP FG2! [b]Injen CAI, Tanabe 'dalion battery complete l SS + bushings for my f-ing broken shoulder cuz.... Remember, real men drive stick http://images.honda-tech.com/set1/smile/emthup.gif

02-08-2008, 12:20 PM	#43
summitshark Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Tucson, AZ, USA Posts: 2	ok, i'll check it out. Thanks __________________ 2006 Si habanero red pearl

02-08-2008, 04:09 PM	#44
piotrush Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Stamford, CT Posts: 1,817	Re: (summitshark) Hope this works, not sure if this was posted here yet, but I didn't see in on the first page so its not getting enough exposure... http://s134.photobucket.com/al...o.flv __________________ Prelude SH parts FS: email: piotrush82@hotmail.com - Spoon strut bars F+R ($250)

02-27-2008, 01:23 PM	#46
bmac Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Hagerstown, MD, USA Posts: 5	Re: $$ FAQ: Third 3rd Gear grind scratch transmission trans sticky pop-out $$ (TRE_) "1. Shuffle through your gears upon initial start-up while idling -- Give the shifter a quick run through all the gears to allow the fluid to get moving" -I believe the car has to be moving to actually get the fluid to move around. The fluid is just sitting in the bottom of the trans. when cold. There may be some trace fluid left on the gears, but not much(other than what they are sitting in) They need to be in motion(driving) to get the fluid to move about. Maybe drive easy till things warm up. Mine seems to do it when @ normal operating temp. though. Just some info I thought I'd add.

03-15-2008, 09:43 AM	#47
Yunque5 Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Philadelphia, PA, us Posts: 43	Re: $$ FAQ: Third 3rd Gear grind scratch transmission trans sticky pop-out $$ (bmac) I have an 08 and I've noticed some issues with my third gear. Occationally seconds gear. I thought the put the MTF in the 08's? __________________ "El ToRo NeGrO". <U>08 NHBP FA5</U>. 20%Tint INJEN CAI:Skunk2 Mega Power R Exhaust

03-17-2008, 12:17 AM	#49
zapper Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: San Francisco, Ca, USA Posts: 3	Re: $$ FAQ: Third 3rd Gear grind scratch transmission trans sticky pop-out $$ (Chiovnidca) i have the same issue with 3rd gear, grinds easy but only popped out once. Dealer cant duplicate the problem.....so it goes unfixed. Isnt there supposed to be a recall for this soon?

03-17-2008, 10:15 AM	#50
pgpbubble Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: NJ Posts: 1,599	Re: $$ FAQ: Third 3rd Gear grind scratch transmission trans sticky pop-out $$ (zapper) Hang tight guys, There will be a new TSB out soon that includes a new designed third gear that will be replaced under warrenty. It should be out next month. __________________ HONDA/ASE CERTIFIED TECH Stock C1,9.8PSI 264/191 RSTECH tuned

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