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skunked · 06-19-2007, 09:07 AM

I bent up some welding wire as a template and went down to the local NAPA to find a hose with the right bends. Make sure you measure OD of the radiator and the water inlet on the head as well.

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Bense · 06-19-2007, 09:18 AM

You Liar

HeikDiesel · 06-19-2007, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by skunked

I bent up some welding wire as a template and went down to the local NAPA to find a hose with the right bends. Make sure you measure OD of the radiator and the water inlet on the head as well.

You forgot to write down that part number didnt you?

skunked · 06-19-2007, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Bense

You Liar

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Originally Posted by HeikDiesel

You forgot to write down that part number didnt you?

yep, I have been asked this questions several times too.

Bense · 06-19-2007, 04:14 PM

lol

HeikDiesel · 06-19-2007, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by skunked

yep, I have been asked this questions several times too.

well dang you. I think eventually Im just going to have some hoses made and some fittings just welded in the spouts

ek forever guy · 06-19-2007, 08:37 PM

Anyone try to run a/c on an ek with h2b?

Just as a thought, I'm going to browse some h2b pictures and guesstimate on clearance.

unusual71 · 06-19-2007, 10:17 PM

there aren't a lot of H2B EK setups yet so you probably wont get a good answer bud. my guess is probably not though based on all the H2B setups on H-T.

Bense · 06-20-2007, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by ek forever guy

Anyone try to run a/c on an ek with h2b?

It could be done but you would have to modify the frame rail and/or headlight support thinger mabobber and have custom ac lines. It can be done, just gotta get creative.

HeikDiesel · 06-21-2007, 08:06 PM

So after talkin with bense earlier I guess the 97 version is a odd-ball. It comes with 50mm mains not 55. The crank snout is smaller. Im gonna try and measure as much as I can tonight and give you guys some specs

Bserious · 06-22-2007, 05:24 PM

Few have questioned the possiblity of AC & Power Steering with the H2B concept. Hopefully this post will help sum up a little bit about what is involved.

Take a look at this pic...

A little bit a banging is required to run the alternator in the OEM position. The framerail was cut for clearance in this pic... an effective solution other than the "bang, test, bang bang some more, test, good" procedure.

The power steering belt travels on the outside of the alternator pulley. Do you see any room to run it in this pic? No. So you have two options, don't run it at all or modify your frame rail to do so.

I have seen H22 Hybrid configurations with AC where the belt powering the alternator is also powering the AC compressor (serpentine) inconjuction with a tensioner. I cannot recall if the bracketry mounting the compressor was OEM or afterrmarket (HCP?).

Again you can see from the above pic that the clearance is tight. Using the serpentine method mentioned above with possibly the use of a few custom/mix match components, it is feasable.

ek forever guy · 06-22-2007, 09:28 PM

So there's hope, so how would I get the serpentine to run? With a special tensioner?

Bserious · 06-22-2007, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ek forever guy

So there's hope, so how would I get the serpentine to run? With a special tensioner?

You see, that's not an 'H2B' thing. That is a H22 'Hybrid' question, and I am sure if you looked through one of the "H22 Air Condition" thread the answers will be found.

Bense · 06-22-2007, 10:12 PM

Thanks for the help Seth

ek forever guy · 06-23-2007, 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Bense

Thanks for the help Seth

x2

HeikDiesel · 06-28-2007, 03:13 PM

What have you guys been doing for fuel lines? Im still running the f20 fuel rail

hatch96y7 · 07-07-2007, 10:27 AM

can u tell me what the poly mount filling is and how its used

Bense · 07-07-2007, 10:28 AM

I just went to lowes and found some polyurethane concrete filler stuff. it was like 4 bucks. same thing as the window weld.

Bense · 07-14-2007, 04:40 PM

i've thought about using a single channel crank pulley from a f20b and flipping it around backwards

1700anddroping · 07-14-2007, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 88ED8

^^ thats tight!!! but hows the alt mounted to compensate for engine movement?

the bracket will have some of what the motor mounts are made out of,so it will give just a hair.with the hasport race mounts in.i don't think she is going to move very much at all....but we shall see.i just cain't get over how trick it looks.....i'm loving it.

88ED8 · 07-14-2007, 04:51 PM

cool, makes me glad that I went with the 88a bushings

Bense · 07-17-2007, 09:08 AM

M12-1.25 x 47mm bolt grade 10 from honda 90032-PNA-000

BIG T · 07-21-2007, 01:46 PM

if you elminate the balance shafts will there be issues with oil pressure then??

Bense · 07-21-2007, 01:53 PM

i just left mine sitting there. i just instruct peeps to remove the belt + pulleys

BIG T · 07-21-2007, 02:06 PM

is having your crank pulley and balance shaft machined the same as buying the part from mcmaster carr.

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06-19-2007, 08:37 PM	#32
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06-22-2007, 05:24 PM	#36
Bserious Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: NORCAL Posts: 907	Re: (HeikDiesel) Few have questioned the possiblity of AC & Power Steering with the H2B concept. Hopefully this post will help sum up a little bit about what is involved. Take a look at this pic... A little bit a banging is required to run the alternator in the OEM position. The framerail was cut for clearance in this pic... an effective solution other than the "bang, test, bang bang some more, test, good" procedure. The power steering belt travels on the outside of the alternator pulley. Do you see any room to run it in this pic? No. So you have two options, don't run it at all or modify your frame rail to do so. I have seen H22 Hybrid configurations with AC where the belt powering the alternator is also powering the AC compressor (serpentine) inconjuction with a tensioner. I cannot recall if the bracketry mounting the compressor was OEM or afterrmarket (HCP?). Again you can see from the above pic that the clearance is tight. Using the serpentine method mentioned above with possibly the use of a few custom/mix match components, it is feasable. __________________ QSD 9167921549 BDHK... all just numbers.

06-22-2007, 09:28 PM	#37
ek forever guy Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Beating people with a stick, GA Posts: 10,658	Re: (Bserious) So there's hope, so how would I get the serpentine to run? With a special tensioner? __________________ Oh snappies L:O I'm Back.

06-19-2007, 10:17 PM	#33
unusual71 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 865	there aren't a lot of H2B EK setups yet so you probably wont get a good answer bud. my guess is probably not though based on all the H2B setups on H-T.

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07-07-2007, 10:27 AM	#42
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07-07-2007, 10:28 AM	#43
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07-14-2007, 04:40 PM	#44
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07-14-2007, 04:51 PM	#46
88ED8 Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 3,968	Re: (1700anddroping) cool, makes me glad that I went with the 88a bushings

07-17-2007, 09:08 AM	#47
Bense Moderator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Clemson, South Carolina! Posts: 9,217	Re: H2B FAQ (Bense) M12-1.25 x 47mm bolt grade 10 from honda 90032-PNA-000 __________________ http://people.clemson.edu/~ABense

07-21-2007, 01:46 PM	#48
BIG T Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: CO, USA Posts: 460	Re: H2B FAQ (Bense) if you elminate the balance shafts will there be issues with oil pressure then?? __________________ 1999 Vogue Silver Honda Civic DX Hatchback/ AC Delete/PS Delete/ Integra Rear Disk/ 24MM REAR SWAYBAY/ 26MM FRONT SWAYBAR /ASR Subframe Brace/Koni Yellow Adjustable Shocks/ Ground Control Coils (500F/400R)/K20A2 Engine Swap An on ramp is a terrible thing to waste

07-21-2007, 01:53 PM	#49
Bense Moderator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Clemson, South Carolina! Posts: 9,217	i just left mine sitting there. i just instruct peeps to remove the belt + pulleys __________________ http://people.clemson.edu/~ABense

07-21-2007, 02:06 PM	#50
BIG T Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: CO, USA Posts: 460	Re: (2fast4u831) is having your crank pulley and balance shaft machined the same as buying the part from mcmaster carr. __________________ 1999 Vogue Silver Honda Civic DX Hatchback/ AC Delete/PS Delete/ Integra Rear Disk/ 24MM REAR SWAYBAY/ 26MM FRONT SWAYBAR /ASR Subframe Brace/Koni Yellow Adjustable Shocks/ Ground Control Coils (500F/400R)/K20A2 Engine Swap An on ramp is a terrible thing to waste

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