THE TURBO THREAD - Boost for Noobies!

[Curiouz_G]

Originally Posted by JDM02em2 Looking to turbo my 02 ex , engine got about 75000 miles on it Setup - - Garrett turbo (GT25R) and manifold pre-assembled - Down pipe and gasket - Polished charge piping - High flow intercooler - Stainless steel braided oil line and fittings - Stainless steel braided water lines for turbo cooling - Rising rate fuel pressure regulator - Blow off valve - Map unit (Black box) - Heat shield - Air intake and filter - Oil return hose and oil pan fitting - High Performance Fuel Management System - All hardware, pressure lines, hoses, clamps, and couplers included Sounds good ?? get a real EMS like Kpro. Kpros MUCH better than AEM EMS when it comes down to daily use. Even andys using it and hes pushing almost 500whp. he swapped over from AEM EMS to kpro. I personally know of 3 other people that uses kpro, 2 boosted and 1 going full blown NA, and they love it. Originally Posted by bluecivic_19 turbo is too small get a gt28 or gt30 air intake? u cant run an intake with turbo, thats y u got an intercooler. and u need a good EMS the aem ems or kpro those r the only standalone's we have, or u can run piggyback and have headaches you do know a gt25r is good for 395whp right? that not enough? it isnt always the size that makes a difference. if he can make power through the whole bandwidth, its a good turbo. period. you DO run a filter on a stick when boosted. i dont think he meant a air intake as in a SRI/CAI. as for piggybacks, its not all bad. it all depends on the tuner. Originally Posted by JDM02em2 yeah i kinda figured that lol, but im pretty knew to turbos and all this, so be easy on me with this, but would this be a good setup and how much whp would i be pushin ? also how much would the gt28 turbo cost me ? cus i need a good setup for lke 3500-4000 average price for a gt25r is 1000 while a gt28r is about 1200 (these are NON EBAY prices). depending on the manifold, EMS, tune, and boost, you can get 200whp easily. as for price, it varies when not buying a kit Originally Posted by bluecivic_19 gt28 not more than a gran if not just a lil over. if u get the dezod alpha series kit ($6500) on the site, u can easily push over 200whp, depending on ur boost and tune is crucial. the dezod kit is a great great buy, comes with everything even pistons and rods to build ur engine a lil bit, buy some crower cams and ur set. save up a lil more and get this kit for the price, its overrated. plus, he doesnt really do much inhouse, he buys manifolds from Lovefab and sells them at stupid high prices. Originally Posted by bluecivic_19 yep! best kit and pretty much the only kit. it will give u decent power and when u crave for more, upgrade to a bigger turbo, bigger injectors, stage 2 or 3 cam, turn up ur boost, get a better tune Modified by bluecivic_19 at 7:55 PM 8/21/2008 the reason why dezods kit is "the only kit" because he paid out most of his competition. When i asked ALL the vendors here about making me a manifold, no one would help me. They all PM'd me to dezod. Cody from Lovefab told me he wouldnt even attempt to help me make one, even though I was willing to pay him in advance for a special order for a LOG manifold, just a log manifold, similar to the ones he made for the D16's. He said he wouldnt step over dezods toes and asked me to buy one from dezod since HE MADE THEM. so dezod sells lovefabs manifolds that dont have lovefabs LIFETIME warrenty and sells for more. pretty crappy if you ask me. His older manifolds were also prone to cracking too. His IC kit also doesnt fit OEM cars well without MAJOR modification. I have no idea why people swing on dezods nuts without even knowing whats involved in creating a kit and just think because he talks big, he knows what hes doing Originally Posted by JDM02em2 how much all together tho 6399 for the kit, then how much with installation and tuning ? 500-800 for a tune. install my be around 500-1000 depending on the shop so if you buy dezods kit, for 6400 and then lets be generous and say 1000 for BOTH install and tune, your paying 7400 for an entry level kit. hope youve got a big wallet bc dezods going to suck you dry

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[bluecivic_19]

i wouldnt say the alpha series is an entry kit. and as for the AEM ems cant u order it without it? but with everything else

[d17hondaguy89]

is it honestly worth it to turbo a 02 civic wit a d17?? or is an engine swap the way to go

[Curiouz_G]

Originally Posted by d17hondaguy89

is it honestly worth it to turbo a 02 civic wit a d17?? or is an engine swap the way to go

are you a sheep? read and make a decision yourself. plenty of of us here are boosted and we think its worth it. its all about personal preference

[bluecivic_19]

^ lol

[rollinlowinthecivic]

I was wondering if i could get some opinions on which map sensors people have used with their turboed 01's. I was planning on just using a GM 3 bar or 2 bar, but at the same time i wanted to just use the stock sensor with the BLOX missing link. I would appreciate the advice.....thanks alot

[bongtokes4jesus]

great info.

[Boilermaker1]

Originally Posted by rollinlowinthecivic

I was wondering if i could get some opinions on which map sensors people have used with their turboed 01's. I was planning on just using a GM 3 bar or 2 bar, but at the same time i wanted to just use the stock sensor with the BLOX missing link. I would appreciate the advice.....thanks alot

Aem 3 bar

since I've done the work, hondata has released their own map sensor, I think its a 4 bar, but it drops right into the honda map sensor hole... so its about as plug and play as you can get. You should be able to use it with any EMS, but its obviously intended to run with a Hondata system.

Dont use a missing link. Its almost 2009, join the 21st century.

[Comfire7]

i was definitely considering the dezod kit for a while. then i got serious, that price is just ridiculous

[hondadxcoupe]

you guys need to chill with the newbie stuff everyone has to start somewhere and they're goin to have questions so help them out or chill...

[blk04civic]

hey does anyone know what is a safe psi to run the turbo at if u're keeping an 2001 ex motor stock?

[blk04civic]

hey does anyone know if srt 4 injector fit 01 civic.

[Curiouz_G]

both questions you asked have been answered either in this thread or somewhere on the front page of the forum.

[blk04civic]

Listen homie, if u know the answer then tell me. if not just shut the **** up. I don't need to hear all that.

[JAPANMUSCLE]

Originally Posted by blk04civic

listen homie, if u know the answer then tell me. If not just shut the **** up. I don't need to hear all that.

werd

[pon55]

Originally Posted by blk04civic

Listen homie, if u know the answer then tell me. if not just shut the **** up. I don't need to hear all that.

e-thugs not welcome

[Curiouz_G]

Originally Posted by blk04civic

Listen homie, if u know the answer then tell me. if not just shut the **** up. I don't need to hear all that.

look, im not your "homie" and its not my fault you cant read or navigate through a forum. i provided you with a response on where the answers are, you're the one not taking initiative to even look for it so take that "e-thug" attitude of yours and shove it.

[b18_spoon]

Anyone running a turbo d17? What model Walbro fuel pump you all running?

Thanks.

[BigJ5]

I helped a buddy do a custom turbo setup on his honda fit and before we adjusted the map sensor settings we hit boost without a MIL. (small turbo boosted quickly oops, lol)

Looking into this some more, I found that the Jackson Racing Rotrex kits (for the fit) does nothing for blocking boost to the ECU. It is low boost - 5psi, but positive pressure nevertheless.

I was just wondering if our ECU's can read boost as well. I have been searching on and off for about a week or so and have found nothing. Also, does it compensate fuel and or timing, the fit seemed to but we didn't dicker around with it and just tuned his piggyback. (emanage ultimate btw)

[teg_95]

very interesting. would like to here more

[Curiouz_G]

Originally Posted by BigJ5

I helped a buddy do a custom turbo setup on his honda fit and before we adjusted the map sensor settings we hit boost without a MIL. (small turbo boosted quickly oops, lol)

Looking into this some more, I found that the Jackson Racing Rotrex kits (for the fit) does nothing for blocking boost to the ECU. It is low boost - 5psi, but positive pressure nevertheless.

I was just wondering if our ECU's can read boost as well. I have been searching on and off for about a week or so and have found nothing. Also, does it compensate fuel and or timing, the fit seemed to but we didn't dicker around with it and just tuned his piggyback. (emanage ultimate btw)

wrong forum.

[It Wasn't Me]

Originally Posted by Curiouz_G

wrong forum.

Nah, it's not. I thought the same thing, yesterday, and moved it to the Fit section. After re-reading the post, the inquiry is about the Civic ECU.. not the Fit's ECU. So .. it was moved back and merged with this thread.

[Curiouz_G]

ahh, reading>me.

I dont believe our ECU's do compensate for fuel or timing. Hell, even with a piggyback, it still fights back like crazy. Back in the day where people ran VAFC and FMU with their SF kits, theyd blow motors left and right. Freddy can attest to this since he was one of the first to ever run the SF kit back in the day w/o a EMS i believe.

[eGosKar]

i got a question... any feed back would help... but will older turbo manifolds like for Egs. and Eks bolt up to on 02 Lx wit the d17... (im speaking single cam wise)... like will they bolt up to the head? of course i noe i need to modify the rest of the kit. Thanks in advance

[Boilermaker1]

no... bolt pattern is different