NEED MAJOR HELP WITH ZC TIMING BELT!!!

CBURKE · 07-05-2005, 09:31 AM

I am dooing a swap as we speak, but cant seem to find the right t-belt for the DOHC ZC i have been through 4 no and no luck. Does anyone know ?

Bunger · 07-05-2005, 09:37 AM

1988 Prelude 2.0 Si ???

Jasond · 07-05-2005, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Bunger

1988 Prelude 2.0 Si ???

Bingo thats the one you want.

EP3_05 · 07-05-2005, 09:42 AM

1988 Prelude 2.0 Si 14400-PK2-004 (DOHC ZC)

CBURKE · 07-05-2005, 09:47 AM

i think i tryed that one but my boy just went down to see if he can get one.

CBURKE · 07-06-2005, 01:11 PM

Ok got the belt on and there is a little slop, is this normal?

EP3_05 · 07-06-2005, 01:15 PM

There shouldn't be any slop. If there is it will not stay timed properly. Did you tension the belt according to the service manual?

Steps to tension belt:

1. Set crank pulley so #1 piston is at TDC

2. Loosen timing belt tensioner

3. Turn crank pulley so the cam gears move 3 teeth in the counterclockwise direction

4. Tighten the tensioner

Modified by 91civic at 8:01 PM 7/6/2005

CBURKE · 07-06-2005, 02:10 PM

I have been reading alot about the zc and from what i have been reading it is like that beacuse we have to use the lude timing belt and not a zc. The belt even seems to be bigger.

Sikocivic · 07-06-2005, 02:20 PM

I am using the Prelude belt on my DOHC ZC and it fits fine, no slop.

Jasond · 07-06-2005, 02:25 PM

It will seem sloppy until you turn the crank per the manual.

CBURKE · 07-06-2005, 02:46 PM

I don't really understand this (3. Turn cank pulley so the cam gears move 3 teeth in the counterclockwise direction)

HumanResource · 07-06-2005, 03:58 PM

depends on what ZC
the 1st gen is basically the D16A1 unit with the smaller cam gears

the 2nd gen ZC (88-91) is the prelude unit with bigger cam gears

check the belt route
did you miss any pulleys?

Crx Jimmy · 07-06-2005, 06:24 PM

count the teeth in the belt to see if the same- duh!

jlicrx · 07-06-2005, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by HumanResource

the 2nd gen ZC (88-91) is the prelude unit with bigger cam gears

not true - the 2nd gen ZC is not a Prelude unit - it is a unique engine - all DOHC ZCs have same diameter cam gears as B-series or H-series - 34 teeth (timing marks are different, but they are the same size) - the 88 Prelude 2.0 Si timing belt and the DOHC ZC timing belt are identical and have the same part number 14400-PK2-004 - the belt has 124 teeth with 9.5mm pitch

CBURKE · 07-07-2005, 05:20 AM

Ok i think i got it. I looked over the book and i think i see what's up. But, the belt is almost or well it tuches the motor mount. The belt tenchiner bolt is at the bottom so it can't get any tighter. The belt say's 184 on the top. Maybe it's the wrong belt. Lets go for belt #5!!!

legendboy · 01-04-2006, 09:55 AM

sorry to bump an old thread buy won't a Tbelt from an 89 integra work on a DOHC ZC?

edit: and yes i have looked thru all the archived posts

jlicrx · 01-04-2006, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by legendboy

sorry to bump an old thread buy won't a Tbelt from an 89 integra work on a DOHC ZC?

edit: and yes i have looked thru all the archived posts

no, the DOHC ZC timing gears are smaller than the Integra - DOHC ZC cam gears have 34 teeth and crank gear has 17 teeth - the Integra cam gears have 40 teeth and the crank gear has 20 teeth - Integra belt is too long

07-05-2005, 09:37 AM	#2
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07-05-2005, 09:42 AM	#4
EP3_05 Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: West Chester, PA, USA Posts: 3,668 iTrader Rating: (0)	Re: NEED MAJOR HELP WITH ZC TIMING BELT!!! (CBURKE) 1988 Prelude 2.0 Si 14400-PK2-004 (DOHC ZC) __________________ 1991 civic 4dr B16a 2005 Honda Civic Si Satin Silver Metallic

07-06-2005, 01:11 PM	#6
CBURKE Honda-Tech Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: St.pete FL Posts: 2,945 iTrader Rating: (0)	Ok got the belt on and there is a little slop, is this normal? __________________ What up?

07-06-2005, 01:15 PM	#7
EP3_05 Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: West Chester, PA, USA Posts: 3,668 iTrader Rating: (0)	Re: (CBURKE) There shouldn't be any slop. If there is it will not stay timed properly. Did you tension the belt according to the service manual? Steps to tension belt: 1. Set crank pulley so #1 piston is at TDC 2. Loosen timing belt tensioner 3. Turn crank pulley so the cam gears move 3 teeth in the counterclockwise direction 4. Tighten the tensioner Modified by 91civic at 8:01 PM 7/6/2005 __________________ 1991 civic 4dr B16a 2005 Honda Civic Si Satin Silver Metallic

07-06-2005, 02:10 PM	#8
CBURKE Honda-Tech Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: St.pete FL Posts: 2,945 iTrader Rating: (0)	I have been reading alot about the zc and from what i have been reading it is like that beacuse we have to use the lude timing belt and not a zc. The belt even seems to be bigger. __________________ What up?

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07-05-2005, 09:31 AM	#1
CBURKE Honda-Tech Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: St.pete FL Posts: 2,945 iTrader Rating: (0)	NEED MAJOR HELP WITH ZC TIMING BELT!!! I am dooing a swap as we speak, but cant seem to find the right t-belt for the DOHC ZC i have been through 4 no and no luck. Does anyone know ? __________________ What up?

07-05-2005, 09:47 AM	#5
CBURKE Honda-Tech Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: St.pete FL Posts: 2,945 iTrader Rating: (0)	i think i tryed that one but my boy just went down to see if he can get one. __________________ What up?

07-06-2005, 02:20 PM	#9
Sikocivic Honda-Tech Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: White Bear Lake, MN, USA Posts: 1,128 iTrader Rating: (0)	Re: (CBURKE) I am using the Prelude belt on my DOHC ZC and it fits fine, no slop. __________________ Econ Racing Its not a tuner shop, its a lifestyle

07-06-2005, 02:46 PM	#11
CBURKE Honda-Tech Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: St.pete FL Posts: 2,945 iTrader Rating: (0)	I don't really understand this (3. Turn cank pulley so the cam gears move 3 teeth in the counterclockwise direction) __________________ What up?

07-06-2005, 03:58 PM	#12
HumanResource Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: I sell JDM engines too, CA, US Posts: 1,370 iTrader Rating: (0)	Re: NEED MAJOR HELP WITH ZC TIMING BELT!!! (CBURKE) depends on what ZC the 1st gen is basically the D16A1 unit with the smaller cam gears the 2nd gen ZC (88-91) is the prelude unit with bigger cam gears check the belt route did you miss any pulleys?

07-06-2005, 06:24 PM	#13
Crx Jimmy Honda-Tech Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: jimmysville VT,, NY, USA Posts: 4,915 iTrader Rating: (0)	Re: NEED MAJOR HELP WITH ZC TIMING BELT!!! (CBURKE) count the teeth in the belt to see if the same- duh! __________________

07-07-2005, 05:20 AM	#15
CBURKE Honda-Tech Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: St.pete FL Posts: 2,945 iTrader Rating: (0)	Ok i think i got it. I looked over the book and i think i see what's up. But, the belt is almost or well it tuches the motor mount. The belt tenchiner bolt is at the bottom so it can't get any tighter. The belt say's 184 on the top. Maybe it's the wrong belt. Lets go for belt #5!!! __________________ What up?

01-04-2006, 09:55 AM	#16
legendboy Honda-Tech Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Calgary, AB, Canada Posts: 2,303 iTrader Rating: (0)	Re: (CBURKE) sorry to bump an old thread buy won't a Tbelt from an 89 integra work on a DOHC ZC? edit: and yes i have looked thru all the archived posts

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