...G23 VTEC...(56K...Definitely Beware)
12-03-2004, 05:26 AM
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Re: ...G23 VTEC...(56K...Definitely Beware) (95cxh22a)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hOndafienD 04 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
nice!
you make it seem too easy. </TD></TR></TABLE>
It really is that simple...
nice!
you make it seem too easy. </TD></TR></TABLE>
It really is that simple...
12-03-2004, 10:52 PM
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Damn man this is sweet. I always wanted the h22 swap but didn't wanna spend money on rebuilding for boost. Now what are all the other complications of doing this besides the ones you already stated. I would love to do this, but don't wanna get hella problems. I have a f22b2. It think f23 and f22 are the same so it should work??? Post pics and please keep us updated. AWESOME JOB so far...
12-04-2004, 08:49 AM
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Damn! The ultimate motor IMO that i've always wanted to see built is actually about to be done.
Wow........I can't WAIT to see the dyno's on this thing! Congrats bud!
Wow........I can't WAIT to see the dyno's on this thing! Congrats bud!
keep up the good work.
12-06-2004, 01:53 PM
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Re: ...G23 VTEC...(56K...Definitely Beware) (flyrod)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by flyrod »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Might need some wiring, sensors, and ecu for a VTEC head or to use the oil pump mounted crank sensors and the external coil distributor etc., and maybe a H22 crank pulley if you are using H22 alternator, A/C etc. If you do this you'll need to mark the pulley with TDC because the F23 block doesn't have the hole or pins to set timing off the flywheel. There are few things like this that you have options with, depending on which parts you use. There is also the driver's side engine mount to deal with.</TD></TR></TABLE>
there is a spot on the block where you han cut the "peep" hole thru to the flywheel,
and for wiring you can just use an obd1 dizzy, and yes you need to run some exra wires for vtec if this is not already a vtec car, also you SHOULD have a stand alone engine managment system or atleast a afc to add some fuel because this setup at 87mm bore is 2300cc a bit more than the stock 2156 of the p13 that would be used to control vtec
there is a spot on the block where you han cut the "peep" hole thru to the flywheel,
and for wiring you can just use an obd1 dizzy, and yes you need to run some exra wires for vtec if this is not already a vtec car, also you SHOULD have a stand alone engine managment system or atleast a afc to add some fuel because this setup at 87mm bore is 2300cc a bit more than the stock 2156 of the p13 that would be used to control vtec
12-06-2004, 10:54 PM
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Re: ...G23 VTEC...(56K...Definitely Beware) (prelittlelude)
Maybe this has been addressed in other posts or threads(if so, feel free to flame away!!) but is there any difference or pros/cons in the different f23 blocks, f23a1/4/5??
In other words, will any of them work, does one work better than the other(provided this is still a very new experiement), or is it just whichever can be picked up for cheaper with less miles is the best canidate??
thanks!!
In other words, will any of them work, does one work better than the other(provided this is still a very new experiement), or is it just whichever can be picked up for cheaper with less miles is the best canidate??
thanks!!
12-07-2004, 04:46 AM
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Re: ...G23 VTEC...(56K...Definitely Beware) (ph8ed4life)
Too be honest I don't really know that much about the differences between the f23a1/4/5/whatever.... I know compression is one factor but that is just what I read from Pirate... He will know more info about this and will hopefully chime in...
12-07-2004, 05:46 AM
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Re: ...G23 VTEC...(56K...Definitely Beware) (prelittlelude)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by prelittlelude »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
there is a spot on the block where you han cut the "peep" hole thru to the flywheel,
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True, but the "sights" are not there on the block to line up with the marks on the flywheel, and the F23 crank doesn't have the alignment pin so the flywheel can be put on in 8 different positions and even then is only accurate to the slop of the fit to the flywheel bolts. Not saying it can't be done, just some things to consider...
there is a spot on the block where you han cut the "peep" hole thru to the flywheel,
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True, but the "sights" are not there on the block to line up with the marks on the flywheel, and the F23 crank doesn't have the alignment pin so the flywheel can be put on in 8 different positions and even then is only accurate to the slop of the fit to the flywheel bolts. Not saying it can't be done, just some things to consider...
12-07-2004, 06:37 AM
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Re: ...G23 VTEC...(56K...Definitely Beware) (PirateMcFred)
Great job on the build Andrew, let me know if you need any more help wrenchin'!!!!
Can't wait till we're both back on the road again!!!
Can't wait till we're both back on the road again!!!
12-07-2004, 11:37 AM
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Re: ...G23 VTEC...(56K...Definitely Beware) (flyrod)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by flyrod »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
True, but the "sights" are not there on the block to line up with the marks on the flywheel, and the F23 crank doesn't have the alignment pin so the flywheel can be put on in 8 different positions and even then is only accurate to the slop of the fit to the flywheel bolts. Not saying it can't be done, just some things to consider...</TD></TR></TABLE>
hmm i could have sworn the sight was on my f22b2 , i will have to go thru old pictures..
True, but the "sights" are not there on the block to line up with the marks on the flywheel, and the F23 crank doesn't have the alignment pin so the flywheel can be put on in 8 different positions and even then is only accurate to the slop of the fit to the flywheel bolts. Not saying it can't be done, just some things to consider...</TD></TR></TABLE>
hmm i could have sworn the sight was on my f22b2 , i will have to go thru old pictures..
12-07-2004, 11:41 AM
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Re: ...G23 VTEC...(56K...Definitely Beware) (prelittlelude)
Yeah, I know it doesnt have the sights on the F23 because I looked where the window should be and they are not there... I'm just going to do like Pirate did and set it at TDC with the f23 pulley and then mark the h22 pulley...
12-07-2004, 01:15 PM
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Re: ...G23 VTEC...(56K...Definitely Beware) (6th Gen)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 6th Gen »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Jdogg at Eurospeed. We talked about it alot, since I have an F23A1
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Jason is very knowledgable about the f and h motors. His username on here is Jdogg, or check out http://www.carolinahondas.com
Jdogg at Eurospeed. We talked about it alot, since I have an F23A1
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Jason is very knowledgable about the f and h motors. His username on here is Jdogg, or check out http://www.carolinahondas.com
12-07-2004, 03:57 PM
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Re: ...G23 VTEC...(56K...Definitely Beware) (Sam1am26)
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Well put that **** IN!
</TD></TR></TABLE>Well put that **** IN!
12-12-2004, 12:46 AM
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what would it be like to run the setup NA? (f23 block h22 head) what could be done to boost compression? do you have any concern/reservations about having to plug holes in the head? which route would be more conducive towards an NA setup, h22 or h23 head?
do you happen to know the head specs of h22/23?: the combustion chamber volume, piston dome displacement (cc per piston)
do you happen to know the head specs of h22/23?: the combustion chamber volume, piston dome displacement (cc per piston)
12-12-2004, 07:20 AM
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Re: ...G23 VTEC...(56K...Definitely Beware) (prelittlelude)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by prelittlelude »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">and get that a/c crap out of there, what do you think you live in a tropical climate or something 
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LOL in florida A/C is a must. I live in SOGA and its hot as hell here too. It was 80 degrees here last week.
</TD></TR></TABLE>LOL in florida A/C is a must. I live in SOGA and its hot as hell here too. It was 80 degrees here last week.
12-12-2004, 08:07 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fenominal »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm a windows down kinda guy, but AC is worth its weight in gold during the harshest moments of winter (tennessee) for defogging purposes. </TD></TR></TABLE>
a/c and defogging? i just blast the heat and it does fine, you dont need a/c to defogg
a/c and defogging? i just blast the heat and it does fine, you dont need a/c to defogg
