Schister66

No, that turbo maxes out around 23-24lb/min which means it will support 220-240hp MAX (180-190whp)...it'll choke out well before your goals.

Cabletie

I think that this could be the right one. The turbo and the manifold are good brand ones. What do you think?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/171144946895

TheShodan

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not a great choice, but it could work. Just not a favored company or combination.

Cabletie

Well, it is the cheapest "good" combination I found. If you have suggestions please share it will be appreciate.
I just got reply from the vendor saying that shipping is 450$.... That's ridiculous.....

Freemananana

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I'd check the market place for used part outs and turbo kits that never made it past the closet. That's where I picked up most of my stuff.

Cabletie

Hi guys, here I am again... I started my project.
I'm doing head porting


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the head has never been milled out
please leave out stupid comments. I just started with it.

Can I continue here on my building or should I open another therad??

Cabletie

I'll try again.............

Can I continue here on my building or should I open another therad??

Schister66

There's no right answer - you can do as you wish. I would keep going on this one since its already here...

cfoss

I've found this info very helpful when trying to determine what compressor to go with:

http://www.stealth316.com/misc/grape...bochargers.pdf

Review and understand the concepts, then start doing some calcs for your engine, rpms, assuming a ve at different rpms. Then, get some compressor maps and start plotting. You will end up with a pretty closely matched turbo on the compressor side.

On the exhaust side, experience is the best teacher. I don't have a lot of experence with honda stuff, but for the turbine (hot side) somewhere in the T3-.63 range seems like a good comprimise between spool and backpressure for around 300hp. Smaller and you'll spool quicker, but may be seeing a lot of backpressure at the top end. Bigger and you will see free flow at the top end, but if you are not boosting that high, that capability is wasted.

I think that is what is meant by do whatever you want. Street guys generally pick a smaller turbo for quicker spool (IE: for autocross as well), drag/circuit guys pick a bigger turbo for better top end power and live with a bit of lag.

Chay

99siky

Take a look at my profile and my build. You might catch something that could help you. I did a B16A2 setup last year and I've been autocrossing with it. Fun setup with a t3 and completely factory motor. I dynod at 242 to the wheels. My tuner suggested I not go higher on a stock block setup since I drive it everyday. This year I ran with 200 WHP to make sure it's a safe and reliable setup for racing/daily. You might want to reconsider the 300 depending on what else you have done to the car. In my area, the cold weather and the rain make it hard to run what I have currently on a daily driver, much less 60 more WHP. Just my opinion though.

Cabletie

Thanks a lot for your suggestions! really appreciated !

Cabletie

I'm still searching for the right turbo...
I've the opportunity to have for free an Airesearch from a ford sierra cosworth 2wd. What do you think about it? specs says 0.9 bar/13 psi of peak with 200hp. Could it be modified with a bigger a/r turbine housing? I'm saying this because during my research I've understand that a bigger a/r turnbine housing will leave the engine breathe better at high rpm, due to minor exhaust back pressure like cfoss stated before. Is that correct?
thanks.

wantboost

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Typically the turbine wheel determines the mass flow limit of the exhaust gasses.

The cosworth should have a 60 trim t3 if I'm remembering correctly. The stage 1 turbine wheel will become a restriction before the turbine housing does, regardless of the aspect ratio of the housing

cfoss

You really need to look at, understand, and calculate what your engine needs in the way of flow. The link I sent you will allow you to do this.

You quote 200hp at 14psi, but at what efficiency? Those numbers do not make any sense without plotting the ENGINES' needs at various pressures.

For example, take any two turbos you want, one big, one small.

IF (A big if) both turbos give you the same pressure, at the same outlet temp at some point in the rpm curve, then at that point the engine wil make the same power with the different setups.

In other words, matching the turbo is about finding out the engine's needs, and satifying them to make the engine act the way YOU want it to.


Ok, well I'm looking at adding a turbo to my 1.8LS, so I'm going to work up some numbers over the next few days. I already have a turbo in mind, and it's sitting in my shop, and it's prolly a bit big if anything, but I'll work up numbers anyway.


Chay

cfoss

Check attach for calc numbers

Assumptions:

75 deg day
Initial airflow based on 1.5cfm per hp (Typical B series is actually a bit better than this)
Turbo wastegate control sensing set up before intercooler

Hope this helps you get in the ballpark size wise.

Chay

Cabletie

Thanks guys, I'm tryin' to figure it out....

hpmx18

thought this mite help with you decision the 35r will make great power but will take time to spool the 3076 is perfect with good mid & high end power since b16 love high rpms just my .2cents

Cabletie

what kind of turbo is that?

MishaMR

hi. so and i want to put a turbo on my b16 ..look at this pistons and rods http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nippon-Racing-JDM-Honda-Turbo-B-Series-Pistons-Rings-Scat-Rods-B16A-81mm-HOT-NEW-/151245339828?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2336ecbcb4&vxp=mtr
i just buy they,for 300-400hp is very good way to go! and for what you whant the turbo gt2871r is very good choice! sorry for my english))

Cabletie

Thanks for the infos. Don't worry for language mistakes, I'm not american/english too.
That scat rods and nippon pistons kit seems good! However I did some research around the web and the best quality/price for my power goal seems to be the manely rods. Nothing to say about nippon pistons... looking around on the forum seems that they work great.
I know that for my power level I don't need this stuff but since I will go on trackdays and daily use, stronger is better in my opinion. What do you guys think about it?

Coming back to the turbochager, I probably will go on with a td0516g from an evo ( I'm still in the middle of negotiation with TheShodan, that I thank here as well for his patience and suggestions).

@MishaMr What brand of turbocharger are you running?

MishaMR

i am not running yet,but also i think about td05 evo but now i think a gt2871r is better for what i want ..for td05 evo must do a lot of modification an a gt2871r will do more power on top end! but td05 is very good way to do is very quick spool ! for what you whant is very good chois 300hp+ is not a problem for this turbo

Cabletie

Ok then, it's time for some picture I guess. I’m doing all by myself and I’ll try to post more pics of the actual work than simple random parts… but you know when you get in you forgot about pictures….

Here it is my eg6:





This is how I'm preparing my little hatch to the turbo build:

Integra 98 specs brake calipers with 282 IRPB rotors (still have to make a decision on brake pads and buy brake hoose lines) : no pics yet.



I had to change lma during this period and i went with Skunk2:




Blue Samco water pipes and Mishimoto half radiator with Mishimoto thermostat:





Ngr Iridium spark plugs PFR7G-11S with magnecor 10.5mm ignition cables (both oem were damaged) and Bc br series:



Full enery suspension kit:




ITR steering rack:





Gold Team Dynamics 15x7j wheels (for trackdays) / rota torque white wheels 15x6,5j (daily use) :





For the interior and exterior I like how it is, I just added some old Recaro seats (no pictures yet) from a 2.0lt old ford that match the interior theme, and later on I'll go for some weight reduction…


Any comments?

MishaMR

look good if you decide to go whit td05 twin scroll just buy on ebay evo twinscroll manifold and modify it to b16 head ..or if you can just try to do castom manifold

Cabletie

I will modify one with a td05 flange probably. Thanks!!!

theYBLEGAL

My stock B16 was really fun to drive with my TD05H-14B. Got mine from an Eagle Talon. Rebuild kits are cheap. It's oil and watercooled. Been pretty bulletproof for me. Welded the internal wastegate shut, using an external Tial wastegate with a ramhorn manifold.

Just rebuilt the motor this year with 11:1 pistons from ebay, but manufactured from same company that made the OEM pistons... http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nippon-Racing-Full-Floating-JDM-Civic-Type-R-CTR-B16B-Pistons-B16A-SI-81-25mm-10-/181468610572?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2a405f400c&vxp=mtr
Which have been working great.

I have the 81.25 slight overbore pistons, which are cast, machined to run c-clips and floating pins. Also using Scat H-beam forged rods, since in road racing you generally don't break the rod from compressive forces, but rather rod stretch. And yes, I do road racing, with lots of engine braking.

The 11:1 cast pistons have been cooperating wonderfully with the TD05H-14B turbo. Amazing offboost and onboost power. To be safe, I also now run water/methanol. Low spray at 3psi, and high spray at 10psi. I'm running a toggle between 8psi and 14psi using a pneumatic valve similar to http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-4-PT-2-Position-3-Way-Metal-Air-Mechanical-Pneumatic-Gas-Valve-/310578296960?pt=Pneumatic_Hydraulic_Valves_Parts&hash=item484fe8b880. I've yet to dyno it. Street tuned it to 14psi, pulled really hard. On street tires, in dry conditions, can spin tires in 3rd if punched. However, cracked my ramhorn at the collector, so I'm nonturbo for this winter.

It's daily driven. It's really fun with a tiny turbo. No matter what, do not drop compression, and I think you will have fun.

Life is all about fun. Fun and