Brake Fluid Types and Brake lines need help
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Brake Fluid Types and Brake lines need help
So i have a 2000 civic cx hatchback and i am about to upgrade my front and rear brakes.
I am installing:
11 inch mini cooper rotors, type r calipers, hawk brake pads, si front spindle knuckles,
1 inch type R brake booster and Master Cylinder.
rear si brakes kit.
Just wanted to see what type of stainless steel brake lines year car make model would fit? since i am using type r calipers in the front and si calipers in the back?
Also brand of stainless steel lines?
Also what type of brand of brake fluid should i use? And how many Quarts should i buy.
This will be a daily driver and will be doing autox and track day events at laguna seca and buttonwillow...
I am installing:
11 inch mini cooper rotors, type r calipers, hawk brake pads, si front spindle knuckles,
1 inch type R brake booster and Master Cylinder.
rear si brakes kit.
Just wanted to see what type of stainless steel brake lines year car make model would fit? since i am using type r calipers in the front and si calipers in the back?
Also brand of stainless steel lines?
Also what type of brand of brake fluid should i use? And how many Quarts should i buy.
This will be a daily driver and will be doing autox and track day events at laguna seca and buttonwillow...
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Re: Brake Fluid Types and Brake lines need help
Just curious. Have you talked to other Honda owners running at Buttonwillow to see what they're running? That would have been the first thing I would have done.
As for your questions; everything you've asked can be found via a quick search. Brake lines. I don't recall anyone having to run different brake lines when doing these swaps. The wonder of Honda interchangeability. You should read up on it. Stainless? Read up. There's only a couple brands out there.
As for your questions; everything you've asked can be found via a quick search. Brake lines. I don't recall anyone having to run different brake lines when doing these swaps. The wonder of Honda interchangeability. You should read up on it. Stainless? Read up. There's only a couple brands out there.
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I use Russell ss lines for ek. I am not positive but the par numbers are the same. When I did my type R brake swap to my ek everything fit. I'm using motul brake fluid
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thanks for your response but i have not track my car yet and have not had the chance to talk to people this is a forum to ask questions and get the best answers from the people who have experienced the same set up so thanks for your kind words
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Sounds like it will be a good brake setup. Motul makes a few different fluids that I know of (5.1, RBF600, and RBF660), but I suggest going with the RBF600 as its boiling temps are pretty high but it isn't as expensive as the RBF660, plus may be easier to find if you need to buy some in an emergency than the RBF660. The fluid usually comes in 500ml bottles, and I'm not sure how much you would need as you'll be replacing basically the whole system, but I suggest getting at least 4 bottles, and if you don't need it all, then you'll have some for future fluid flushes.
Did your car originally come with rear drum brakes, and if it did, then are you also going to install a new proportion valve - I always see people suggest a 4040 proportion valve. I’m not sure if you have seen it, but there is a lot of info in the thread https://honda-tech.com/forums/suspension-brakes-54/brakeexperts-brake-chart-thread-civic-brake-upgrades-ef-eg-ek-integras-3044628/ at the top of the Suspension & Brake forum.
Since you are going to install the Type R front calipers, just wondering what type of rims you will be running, as some 15” rims (like Enkei RPF1’s) may not have enough clearance for the calipers and bracket, and may require some grinding.
Since you will be running at Laguna plus Buttonwillow, are you going to be running with NCRC or someone else? As you’re in San Jose and willing to go down to Buttonwillow, you might also want to run at Thunderhill, and possibly Infineon.
How much experience have you had on the race tracks? If you are new, then it is really a good idea to have some instructors ride along for a few days to see if you’re doing anything wrong – it is a lot better to get problems figured out early, as everything may seem OK at fairly slow speeds, but could cause problems as you go faster. - Jim
Did your car originally come with rear drum brakes, and if it did, then are you also going to install a new proportion valve - I always see people suggest a 4040 proportion valve. I’m not sure if you have seen it, but there is a lot of info in the thread https://honda-tech.com/forums/suspension-brakes-54/brakeexperts-brake-chart-thread-civic-brake-upgrades-ef-eg-ek-integras-3044628/ at the top of the Suspension & Brake forum.
Since you are going to install the Type R front calipers, just wondering what type of rims you will be running, as some 15” rims (like Enkei RPF1’s) may not have enough clearance for the calipers and bracket, and may require some grinding.
Since you will be running at Laguna plus Buttonwillow, are you going to be running with NCRC or someone else? As you’re in San Jose and willing to go down to Buttonwillow, you might also want to run at Thunderhill, and possibly Infineon.
How much experience have you had on the race tracks? If you are new, then it is really a good idea to have some instructors ride along for a few days to see if you’re doing anything wrong – it is a lot better to get problems figured out early, as everything may seem OK at fairly slow speeds, but could cause problems as you go faster. - Jim
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Re: Brake Fluid Types and Brake lines need help
calif kid,
Thanks for the info on the brake fluid i have heard of that brand and i am able to buy some from san jose shop. yes it is a cx model and the thread you posted i was told by brakemaster guy i do not need a pro since my ek came with one all i needed was the 1 in master cylinder. i am using 15 in rotas GT3 i know if they do not fit i will i will grind off a little. It is my first time i will be getting lessons and yes i plan on going to those tracks as well... thanks for the reply.
Thanks for the info on the brake fluid i have heard of that brand and i am able to buy some from san jose shop. yes it is a cx model and the thread you posted i was told by brakemaster guy i do not need a pro since my ek came with one all i needed was the 1 in master cylinder. i am using 15 in rotas GT3 i know if they do not fit i will i will grind off a little. It is my first time i will be getting lessons and yes i plan on going to those tracks as well... thanks for the reply.
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Re: Brake Fluid Types and Brake lines need help
What should have happened is that you researched, came up with a combination of parts, and then asked for clarification/compatibility on those.
Your way? You're at the mercy of anyone willing to give you information/misinformation.
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twomspeedek - if needed, post https://honda-tech.com/forums/road-racing-autocross-time-attack-19/15-rpf1-what-brakes-will-clear-itr-2836345/ has some info about the grinding that was needed to fit 15x7" Enkei RPF1's with ITR/Honda V6 calipers and brackets. Reply #20 has some pictures that I took of the grinding (calipers & brackets) that was needed along with having to trim some of the metal slider pieces. I did the grinding with a flapper disk. The RPF1's have a step near the outer part of the wheel, so other wheels may have more clearance. It will be obvious when you test fit your wheels though. If needed, I'm in Sunnyvale if you needed to check out my brake setup.
As far as searching - since you're really trying to get the brake system to hold up under track conditions, then I would spend most of your time concentrating/searching in the Road Racing/Autocross & Time Attack forum. The main thing, is that it sounds like you are selecting a good combination of brake parts. - Jim
As far as searching - since you're really trying to get the brake system to hold up under track conditions, then I would spend most of your time concentrating/searching in the Road Racing/Autocross & Time Attack forum. The main thing, is that it sounds like you are selecting a good combination of brake parts. - Jim
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