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Old 11-04-2009, 04:26 PM   #1
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i am pulling out my engine, and i want to keep my tranny in. can i simply put a jack under the tranny then remove the bolts to the bellhousing and lift the engine, or is there anything else i have to do prior.

a good guide would be nice, i was looking at the auto to 5 spd but i get lost at some points.
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Old 11-04-2009, 05:07 PM   #2
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Why not just pull the whole thing out? Its easier that way. You can reach all the tranny bolts with both the tranny and engine out from the bay. Also that way, you won't have to fight to separate the tranny from the engine if you're going to do what you said.
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Old 11-04-2009, 06:00 PM   #3
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Most transaxles are designed to be installed and pulled from the car as one unit. It's a lot easier to pull the entire engine/transmission as one unit; the only added step is unbolting the the CV joints; compair that to uninstalling the transfer case first.

On a bellhouse transmissions for a RWD or 4WD car it's typically required to pull one before the other unless you plan on cutting the front off of the car.
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Old 11-04-2009, 11:55 PM   #4
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Most transaxles are designed to be installed and pulled from the car as one unit. It's a lot easier to pull the entire engine/transmission as one unit; the only added step is unbolting the the CV joints; compair that to uninstalling the transfer case first.

On a bellhouse transmissions for a RWD or 4WD car it's typically required to pull one before the other unless you plan on cutting the front off of the car.


ORLY?

No on both counts... Except POSSIBLY if theres a bulky tranfer case in the picture.
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Old 11-05-2009, 04:13 AM   #5
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i am pulling out my engine, and i want to keep my tranny in. can i simply put a jack under the tranny then remove the bolts to the bellhousing and lift the engine, or is there anything else i have to do prior.

a good guide would be nice, i was looking at the auto to 5 spd but i get lost at some points.
so you have an auto? with the automatics it can sometimes be less work to pull the motor itself if thats all you're replacing (such as when replacing a blown motor but keeping the auto trans). two reasons: the autos have more bulk altogether and more of it is under the frame rail when compared to a manual case. the other reason, the engine only needs about 3/4" of clearance from the bell housing/torque converter to be removed. a handful of trans bolts and i think 8 flex plate bolts and they should separate. a manual on the otherhand is splined into the clutch and needs much more clearance, maybe 2-3"..

extra support is always good, but the two transmission mounts (rear nearest the firewall and passenger side at the tail of the case) should hold it in place while the engine is out.
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Old 11-06-2009, 02:39 PM   #6
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so you have an auto? with the automatics it can sometimes be less work to pull the motor itself if thats all you're replacing (such as when replacing a blown motor but keeping the auto trans). two reasons: the autos have more bulk altogether and more of it is under the frame rail when compared to a manual case. the other reason, the engine only needs about 3/4" of clearance from the bell housing/torque converter to be removed. a handful of trans bolts and i think 8 flex plate bolts and they should separate. a manual on the otherhand is splined into the clutch and needs much more clearance, maybe 2-3"..

extra support is always good, but the two transmission mounts (rear nearest the firewall and passenger side at the tail of the case) should hold it in place while the engine is out.


no its standard, but i a dropping in an engine from a auto exr (f224a) i am getting lost becuase i dont know what things apply to a auto that dont apply to standard for ex. tourque converter. the seller was telling me that i had to put my flywheel, from my standard into the exr's engine. i figured it would save me headache if i did it without moving the tranny because i heard the tranny was fairly heavy to lift.
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Old 11-06-2009, 05:01 PM   #7
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no its standard, but i a dropping in an engine from a auto exr (f224a) i am getting lost becuase i dont know what things apply to a auto that dont apply to standard for ex. tourque converter. the seller was telling me that i had to put my flywheel, from my standard into the exr's engine. i figured it would save me headache if i did it without moving the tranny because i heard the tranny was fairly heavy to lift.
right, the automatics are pretty heavy. if you've got a good back and strong arms the manuals aren't too bad to pull out "by hand." the seller is right, the flywheel and clutch assembly will need to be swapped over along with the manual flywheel bolts (they are longer than the automatic's flex plate bolts.)

i would pull the motor you're buying by itself and leave the automatic where it is. when you're ready to put the new one in with your 5 speed, pull the motor and trans, and swap over the necessary parts.
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Old 11-11-2009, 02:15 PM   #8
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okay i am currently trying to remove the tranny off the f22a1 but having trouble because i dont have a engine stand, is it okay to rest the engine upside down, so pretty much resting on the throttle body?
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i would try to avoid putting any weight on the TB... do the best you can to prop it up with some blocks of wood or cardboard boxes. resting it on is side shouldn't cause any issue though. just be careful of fluid leaks (even if you've drained everything... they're sneaky) and protect any sensors from being crushed .

engine stands are available at Harbour Freight for less than $50. that's what i use. very handy, and it can be broken down quickly for storage.
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its not that bad bro i just mated my 5 speed tranny with an engine the was automatic.
it sounds like a chore but isnt all that bad as long as you do it right.take them both out as one unit.
it will be easier in the long run as some 5 speed trannies are a PITA to mate back up with the engine.
also invest in an engine hoist...they run 120-160 bucks and can save you countless time.
now as for the flywheel and all

Uninstalling the flexplate fromt the auto engine(once tranny is removed)
- findd the coreect 12 point socket and remove the 8 bolts holding the plate to the engine

Uninstalling the clutch/flywheel assembly:

- find the correct 12 point socket and remove the 5 or so bolts holding the pressure plate to the flywheel and set them aside as you will be reusing them

- remove the pressure plate and clutch from the flywheel


Installing the flywheel:
now if your going to use the same flywheel make sure you inspect it for warpage and heat cracks...while i recommend replacing it
some people just dont have the extra money for it.

- after inspection or buying a new one line the pin up witht he hole on the engine and sit the plate in place

- using the 8 manual plate bolts you set side put them in and tighten them hand tight(eventually tightening them all the way after)


Installing the Clutch:

now i strongly recommend you buy a new clutch kit the includes a new pressure plate and throw out bearing as well

- take the clutch out of the box and handle it as little as possible

- take the clutch alighnment tool and put it into the sline of the clutch and hold it up to the flywheel

- now take the pressure plate and alligh it to the flywheel(it will only fully bolt up one way)

- while tightening the pressure plate hold the clutch alignment tool in place so the clutch stays in the right spot

- use spline lube and lubricate the spline of the new clutch



Installing the new throw out bearing:

this can be a PITA to keep in place when putting the tranny and engine back together

- remove the old throw out bearing

- put the new one on the shaft and back the fork out slightly and then put the fork back with the 2 prongs sliding into the 2 groves on the back of the bearing

- when reinstalling push it all the way back and make sure it stays there so it doesnt come apart when reassembling the engine/tranny
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Old 11-12-2009, 06:23 PM   #11
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thanks for the extra info, but buying hoist doesnt seem feasible to me, they go for about 300 - 400 up here. i have never seen a hoist go for that cheap.
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thanks for the extra info, but buying hoist doesnt seem feasible to me, they go for about 300 - 400 up here. i have never seen a hoist go for that cheap.

i got mine at pepboys for 120(plan on getting another one soon most likely from harbor freight)
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Old 11-15-2009, 02:24 AM   #13
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unfortunately i am from canada i dont have those up here.
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