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Old 09-15-2011, 12:09 AM
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Ok so this is drving me insane, The hazards work but the turn signals do not. I replaced the Flasher relay on the wiring harness, the light and signal switch on the steering columns. My brake lights etc all work so its not the fuse in the fuse box. Also replaced the hazard switch just in case and no go. This is a 93 del sol S with a 1995 del sol SI dash harness swap, everything but the turn signals work but I am not sure if this harness is different.
Also this is the light switch, the three pin plug on the top, is that supposed to be connected? it wasn't and I cant find a cable that is supposed to go there. If something even goes there.

The hazards work and they turn on when the headlights are on just don't blink

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Default Re: No turn signals but hazards work

I'd say the issue is with your turn signal stalk...
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turn signal stalk?
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Default Re: No turn signals but hazards work

I replaced that already

here is the new one

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Default Re: No turn signals but hazards work

Check the turn signal fuse in the dash fuse box.

10A dash fuse 15
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Default Re: No turn signals but hazards work

Ok I will post back when I do
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Default Re: No turn signals but hazards work

fuse 15 is good, I tried another just to make sure and no go
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Default Re: No turn signals but hazards work

I guess it could be the wiring going to the turn signal stalk. Isn't there a test procedure for this in the helms service manual?
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I have a chilton manual, that is 300 pages of pure pure vagueness, completely useless
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Default Re: No turn signals but hazards work

Use a multimeter to test whether the hazard switch gets voltage from fuse 15.
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Default Re: No turn signals but hazards work

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I have a chilton manual, that is 300 pages of pure pure vagueness, completely useless
You need to get a helms.. They're like $40 on ebay, though in this instance, you'll actually need to buy the Honda Electrical Wiring diagram.
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Originally Posted by RonJ@HT
Use a multimeter to test whether the hazard switch gets voltage from fuse 15.
I will grab a meter and test it in the morning and post what I find
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Default Re: No turn signals but hazards work

Turn the key to ON(II) and then check for voltage to body ground at the Yel wire terminal in the unplugged hazard switch connector.
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Default Re: No turn signals but hazards work

On the hazard switch there is a red and yellow wire. I get .62 on onII to ground. With the switch plugged in and hazards on it fluctuates between 14volts to 0 to body ground
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On the hazard switch there is a red and yellow wire. I get .62 on onII to ground. With the switch plugged in and hazards on it fluctuates between 14volts to 0 to body ground
If with the key turned to ON(II) the Yel wire terminal in the unplugged hazard switch connector does not have battery voltage, then the Yel wire is broken somewhere between fuse 15 or the hazard switch connector is bad.
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hmm one sec, I will take some photos and post them
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The Yel wire in the hazard switch connector pins to terminal F in the switch:

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Again man thanks for the help this is like the fourth time you help me out

Here is my hazard switch

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There is no yellow wire there but I figured I try to find it. So I pulled the trimming of the column and found a yellow wire on the wiper stalk

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So I figured if that is the wire that controls all of this then it shouldn't be there..

So I pulled it off and put it on the other side and WOLA!!

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THANKS MAN!
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Default Re: No turn signals but hazards work

So let me get this straight, you were able to plug in the socket connector into the wiper stalk instead of the headlight/turn signal stalk? Please clarify this for everyone for future reference.
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Default Re: No turn signals but hazards work

yup, look at the photo it goes right in there, and wipers/hazards still worked
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Default Re: No turn signals but hazards work

lol so who had it plugged into the wrong place? I'm one step worse than you... I have no hazards and no turn signals! I will post a thread one day but I'm not worried now(hatch will be garaged soon).
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Old 09-17-2011, 05:53 AM
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Default Re: No turn signals but hazards work

It happened when the harness was replaced, doesn't help that almost all honda plugs are the same
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Old 09-19-2011, 07:48 PM
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Default Re: No turn signals but hazards work

Not sure if it might help, but try replacing the turn signal sockets. What happened to me was that my passenger turn signal would blink very fast when the headlights were off and not blink at all with them on, so I replaced the socket (about $15/each at Honda) and it works good now like it should
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Default Re: No turn signals but hazards work

Originally Posted by cevax
Again man thanks for the help this is like the fourth time you help me out

Here is my hazard switch




Hi, I know this post is very old, but I was reading your post. You had mistakenly plug the wrong plug to the wrong stalk. so that mean, when you turn on your wipers, your turn signal flashes?




There is no yellow wire there but I figured I try to find it. So I pulled the trimming of the column and found a yellow wire on the wiper stalk



So I figured if that is the wire that controls all of this then it shouldn't be there..

So I pulled it off and put it on the other side and WOLA!!



THANKS MAN!
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Please don't bump old threads for no reason.
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