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Dart vs sleeved block
05-08-2010, 05:58 AM
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Dart vs sleeved block
How many guys prefer or run dart blocks? How many guys prefer sleeved blocks?
The pros and cons of both. Any dyno tests to see if one makes more power with the same parts.
The pros and cons of both. Any dyno tests to see if one makes more power with the same parts.
05-08-2010, 11:26 AM
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Re: Dart vs sleeved block
Dart blocks are just to expensive. There are so many good ls blocks that I can get a hold of for so very cheap that it will cost $1000+ less to sleeve it than get a Dart block. Plus, I cant remember where, but I read an article about a shop that got a Dart block and it still needed a bunch of machine work and there was a pin size hole in one of the sleeves. After I read that I decided never to buy one.
05-08-2010, 01:16 PM
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Re: Dart vs sleeved block
Dart blocks = no bueno...
05-09-2010, 01:21 AM
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Re: Dart vs sleeved block
No reason to buy a Darton when you can sleeve a stock block and have ~$1500 in it and have something just as good for a fraction of the cost.
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05-09-2010, 05:06 AM
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Re: Dart vs sleeved block
i had a buddy who ran one. wasnt problematic, worked great.
if you know the stuff to take care of, the extra prep work isnt really any big deal.. they are strong strong strong..
if you know the stuff to take care of, the extra prep work isnt really any big deal.. they are strong strong strong..
05-09-2010, 06:18 AM
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Re: Dart vs sleeved block
The only con is the money for a Dart.If you can afford it then no question get one. Some here may say not to but consider who you are taking advice from and what interest they may have in it such as affiliation with a sleeving shop etc.
05-09-2010, 07:46 AM
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Re: Dart vs sleeved block
dart blocks are great for a high HP build extra webbing suporting the mains thick sleeves. A block designed to take the abuse that we intend to put it thru. Also when looking at the cost vs sleeving a oe block take into consideration the tall deck block that they offer and also look at the cost of having a deck extension put on a oe block and then the price dosent look so bad.
Also the people that complain about a block needing work done to it. Who cares it is a custom block and if you are building a engine the proper way what is a 200-300 extra in machine work to make it work corectly.
Also the people that complain about a block needing work done to it. Who cares it is a custom block and if you are building a engine the proper way what is a 200-300 extra in machine work to make it work corectly.
05-09-2010, 09:20 AM
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Re: Dart vs sleeved block
dart blocks are great for a high HP build extra webbing suporting the mains thick sleeves. A block designed to take the abuse that we intend to put it thru. Also when looking at the cost vs sleeving a oe block take into consideration the tall deck block that they offer and also look at the cost of having a deck extension put on a oe block and then the price dosent look so bad.
Also the people that complain about a block needing work done to it. Who cares it is a custom block and if you are building a engine the proper way what is a 200-300 extra in machine work to make it work corectly.
Also the people that complain about a block needing work done to it. Who cares it is a custom block and if you are building a engine the proper way what is a 200-300 extra in machine work to make it work corectly.
just my $.02
05-09-2010, 10:37 AM
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I run a dart block after I had nothing put problems with a sleeved block wich was done by a well known company on here , I figured I dont what any problems with sleeves droping or shifting , The dart block also has better cooling passages than a oe block and the bigger webbing is great. It realy dosent take to much much work to the block , a good cleaning and measuring over , hone it only cost me about 250 in machine work.
05-09-2010, 02:59 PM
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Re: Dart vs sleeved block
i have not ran either yet, but based on the power and times that the fastest guys are running on sleeved blocks, why dump the money
most important part of keeping a motor together is the tune, so spend the money for a good tuner
most important part of keeping a motor together is the tune, so spend the money for a good tuner
05-09-2010, 06:12 PM
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Re: Dart vs sleeved block
most of the really fast guys wont use a dart block because they are afraid to get 10-15k wraped up in a engine just to have the block they are using be outlawed the next year so they stick with what they know will be legal. The dart block was well thought over when it was produced. The only reason that it never cought on to be the thing to use is NOPI wouldnt allow you to use it. So it never took off.
05-09-2010, 06:57 PM
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Re: Dart vs sleeved block
Yeah, that's an intelligent comment 
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I have personally seen WAY to much human error by "big named" companies in sleeving blocks. There is NO comparison to a DART block IMHO. Now, I'm not saying that sleeving never works because it does. But the DART choice is an all around much better one
-J
...I have personally seen WAY to much human error by "big named" companies in sleeving blocks. There is NO comparison to a DART block IMHO. Now, I'm not saying that sleeving never works because it does. But the DART choice is an all around much better one
-J
05-14-2010, 08:54 AM
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Re: Dart vs sleeved block
Yeah, I may be biased, but the dart blocks aren't a bad choice if you have the extra change. But, I would run an ERL sleeved block over a Dart. I've seen both and my mind is set, not to mention, the fact that you can work more closely with an individual sleeving company as opposed to a big name.
05-14-2010, 10:02 AM
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if dart blocks were only a couple of hundred $$ more than a sleeved block i would have to say i would use that. Nothing beats a sleeved block at this point.
05-15-2010, 08:18 AM
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Re: Dart vs sleeved block
Coming from someone that has a 83MM sleeved block, if your only trying to net a little over 500whp I don't see the need to sleeve unless you plan on running it at that power daily.
