lando griffin

Anyone have some good pictures comparing these two?

Markb16a

I wanna know too. Especially with a retrofit.

lando griffin

No one....?

0operatic

4300k


6000k


I do not have any pictures of them being compared on the same car. But if you're curious about light output difference I do have a comparison between 4300k vs 12000k


Let me know what type of picture you're looking for and I can make it happen.

SoCal EJ1

6000k will look brighter but the 4300k will make more light. OEM HIDS are 4300k and they seem more than plenty for output.

devani

http://www.hidplanet.com/forum...36211

Here's the picure you wanted...for God's sake do not get a kit...

perpetualburn

why not? Plenty of people use them.

Genuine Rolla

4300K


6000K


4300K Left, 6000K Right



4300K Left, 6000K Right



Modified by Genuine Rolla at 9:53 AM 10/3/2007

accordselux

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by perpetualburn &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why not? Plenty of people use them.</TD></TR></TABLE>

They use low quality components, and you install them into halogen reflectors which were never designed to handle hte amount of light an HID bulb puts out. You end up with glare and blobs of light with no equal coverage.

Buying aftermarket projectors doesn't make much of a difference. If you want HIDs, you need to do an OEM projector retrofit. Otherwise you're left with shoddy aftermarket quality in a headlight that doesn't perform as well as OEM HID components. You blind other people and you don't get BETTER light, you just get MORE light.

PatrickGSR94

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by perpetualburn &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why not? Plenty of people use them.</TD></TR></TABLE>

That means nothing. The general public has been fooled into thinking that any old HID setup is A-OK with whatever factory headlight housing is on their car. They have also been brainwashed into thinking that wattage is a measure of light output, that higher color temperature is better, and thus are willing to pay more money for a kit with a higher color temperature but less, sometimes LOTS less light output than OEM 4300K HID bulbs put out.

Resist the temptation and the easy, cheap way out. Do some research (HiDPlanet forums are a great place to start), save some money, and do a proper HID projector retrofit w/ 4300K bulbs, and then bask in the enjoyment of superb light output and appearance.

JMod

yea i've seen a ton of honda's and even a lot of Chevy Silverado's around here that have slapped a kit into their stock housings & its ridiculously annoying because it blinds the **** out of oncoming cars.

And like is being mentioned also, the light output pattern is freakin terrible.

EsQueue

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JMod &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yea i've seen a ton of honda's and even a lot of Chevy Silverado's around here that have slapped a kit into their stock housings & its ridiculously annoying because it blinds the **** out of oncoming cars.

And like is being mentioned also, the light output pattern is freakin terrible.</TD></TR></TABLE>
It's equally or more annoying when they are behind you. I really wish that cops would crack down on vehicles blinding the hell out of everyone.

How the hell do someone thinks that it is ok to put these in their trucks?

1badascivic

i have the 6k and i love thme

sir2sol

not sure which heat range i've got, but they're really blue....possibly too blue?

doubleshotz

A huge misconception on HIDs are higher kelvin=brighter, better vision.
Look for lumen(lm) ratings rather than kelvins(k).
Lumens define the light distance, kelvins define the color tempeture.

Why would you want to pay for a kit that won't allow you to see better?
If you just looking for color then go ahead get a kit.

That's all you gonna get with a PNP kit, COLOR.
Hot spots, glare, additional flick-offs, and road side harassments included for FREE!!

PatrickGSR94

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I point and laugh every time I see a car with a plug n play ricer HID kit. Then I cuss them for blinding me.

accordselux

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by doubleshotz &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">A huge misconception on HIDs are higher kelvin=brighter, better vision.
Look for lumen(lm) ratings rather than kelvins(k).
Lumens define the light distance, kelvins define the color tempeture.

Why would you want to pay for a kit that won't allow you to see better?
If you just looking for color then go ahead get a kit.

That's all you gonna get with a PNP kit, COLOR.
Hot spots, glare, additional flick-offs, and road side harassments included for FREE!!
</TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PatrickGSR94 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I point and laugh every time I see a car with a plug n play ricer HID kit. Then I cuss them for blinding me.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I love both of you right now

Genuine Rolla

Are the pics I posted good enough..?

I'm using 6000K right now and I wish I got 4300K.

doubleshotz

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PatrickGSR94 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I point and laugh every time I see a car with a plug n play ricer HID kit. Then I cuss them for blinding me.</TD></TR></TABLE>
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH I know exactly what you talking about. My girl thinks I'm crazy when I do that.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by accordselux &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I love both of you right now</TD></TR></TABLE>
Love is in the air??????????

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Genuine Rolla &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Are the pics I posted good enough..?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Those look like TL+ZKW, that's as good as bi-xenon gets

jewpont

but do 4300ks even have alittle bit of a blue tint to them? do they look like non projected lexus HIDs?

PatrickGSR94

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jewpont &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">but do 4300ks even have alittle bit of a blue tint to them? do they look like non projected lexus HIDs?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Depends on the projector. The blue color you see from cars with OEM HID comes from the projector optics. If you look at the cutoff on a wall, there will be a blue line along the top edge of the cutoff.

The blue color you see on OEM reflector HID comes from the bulbs being old, which have color shifted to a higher color temperature.

My bulbs are 4300K but are nearly 4 years old and have probably shifted up near 5500K or so.

Imp-tuner

4300 aren't blue but really blind people 'cause they are white....it depends on how do u want the look of ur car...thus, 6000 are light blue and they look nice and still give u good lightning....is up to u..

jewpont

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Imp-tuner &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">4300 aren't blue but really blind people 'cause they are white....it depends on how do u want the look of ur car...thus, 6000 are light blue and they look nice and still give u good lightning....is up to u.. </TD></TR></TABLE>what kevlin rating would be close to this color, dont mind the 5000k, would 4300k look like 5000k or do i need to buy a 5000k bulb?

accordselux

My 5300k bulbs were close to that color, but a little greener it seems.

prelude1897

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PatrickGSR94 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

That means nothing. The general public has been fooled into thinking that any old HID setup is A-OK with whatever factory headlight housing is on their car. They have also been brainwashed into thinking that wattage is a measure of light output, that higher color temperature is better, and thus are willing to pay more money for a kit with a higher color temperature but less, sometimes LOTS less light output than OEM 4300K HID bulbs put out.

Resist the temptation and the easy, cheap way out. Do some research (HiDPlanet forums are a great place to start), save some money, and do a proper HID projector retrofit w/ 4300K bulbs, and then bask in the enjoyment of superb light output and appearance. </TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JMod &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yea i've seen a ton of honda's and even a lot of Chevy Silverado's around here that have slapped a kit into their stock housings & its ridiculously annoying because it blinds the **** out of oncoming cars.

And like is being mentioned also, the light output pattern is freakin terrible.</TD></TR></TABLE><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EsQueue &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
It's equally or more annoying when they are behind you. I really wish that cops would crack down on vehicles blinding the hell out of everyone.

How the hell do someone thinks that it is ok to put these in their trucks? </TD></TR></TABLE>


All very great points and reasons why a retrofit would be the best way to go.