No antifreeze in cooling system for drag racing right...?
05-08-2007, 12:05 PM
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No antifreeze in cooling system for drag racing right...?
I understand this is done so if you happen to spill onto the track, water alone is much easier to clean up. With that being said, do you use distilled water and how much water wetter? One bottle or two?
05-08-2007, 01:11 PM
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Re: No antifreeze in cooling system for drag racing right...? (Mikey3000)
distilled and 1 bottle of water wetter will do the job.
i hate tap water cus it builds up calcuim and rust
if you have a built block you can afford to spend $2 on some distilled water.
Tap water
i hate tap water cus it builds up calcuim and rust
if you have a built block you can afford to spend $2 on some distilled water.
Tap water
05-08-2007, 01:42 PM
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Re: No antifreeze in cooling system for drag racing right...? (Mikey3000)
alright one more thing that just came to my mind... is it mandatory to have open ended lug nuts so the tech inspectors can see that the stud penetrates all the way thru the lug nut?
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Re: (Migrana)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by camp1320.com »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
if you have a built block you can afford to spend $2 on some distilled water. </TD></TR></TABLE>
+ tap water kills the inside of an aluminum radaitor...
if you have a built block you can afford to spend $2 on some distilled water. </TD></TR></TABLE>
+ tap water kills the inside of an aluminum radaitor...
05-08-2007, 07:53 PM
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Re: No antifreeze in cooling system for drag racing right...? (camp1320.com)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by camp1320.com »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">distilled and 1 bottle of water wetter will do the job.
i hate tap water cus it builds up calcuim and rust
if you have a built block you can afford to spend $2 on some distilled water.
Tap water
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+ Also distilled water and water wetter will cool far better then anti-freeze will!
*Heat kills performance*
i hate tap water cus it builds up calcuim and rust
if you have a built block you can afford to spend $2 on some distilled water.
Tap water
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+ Also distilled water and water wetter will cool far better then anti-freeze will!
*Heat kills performance*
05-09-2007, 08:25 AM
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Re: No antifreeze in cooling system for drag racing right...? (SPOOLINmatt)
I always hear about people using a few drops of Dawn instead of Water Wetter in their radiator. I know that the soap will reduce the surface tension of the water (which is basically what water wetter does) but I wonder if there is more to it than that? I mean I have always ran 1/2 bottle of Water Wetter in my radiator but are a few soap drops just as effective?
Also, as was previously stated--pure water is more effective at taking away heat from your engine compared to an anit-freeze mixture. Anti-freeze exists for three reasons: To prevent freezing of the block, to increase the temperature at which plain water boils, and to prevent corrosion of the radiator and block. It doesn't cool as well as plain water though.
That is the whole point of a higher pressure radiator cap, it doesn't help cooling per-se, all it does is raise the point at which water or anti-freeze will boil. Once the coolant starts boiling even a little its heat transfer properties go to ****.
As long as you don't reach the temp at which coolant will boil, plain distilled water is a better choice in hot climates. I believe water under 1.3 bar of pressure will boil at something like 250 degrees, while a 50/50 mix of anti-freeze and water at the same pressure will boil at around 260-270. Those numbers might not be exact but its somewhere in that range.
Also, as was previously stated--pure water is more effective at taking away heat from your engine compared to an anit-freeze mixture. Anti-freeze exists for three reasons: To prevent freezing of the block, to increase the temperature at which plain water boils, and to prevent corrosion of the radiator and block. It doesn't cool as well as plain water though.
That is the whole point of a higher pressure radiator cap, it doesn't help cooling per-se, all it does is raise the point at which water or anti-freeze will boil. Once the coolant starts boiling even a little its heat transfer properties go to ****.
As long as you don't reach the temp at which coolant will boil, plain distilled water is a better choice in hot climates. I believe water under 1.3 bar of pressure will boil at something like 250 degrees, while a 50/50 mix of anti-freeze and water at the same pressure will boil at around 260-270. Those numbers might not be exact but its somewhere in that range.
05-09-2007, 11:43 AM
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Re: No antifreeze in cooling system for drag racing right...? (d16dcoe45)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by d16dcoe45 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I always hear about people using a few drops of Dawn instead of Water Wetter in their radiator. I know that the soap will reduce the surface tension of the water (which is basically what water wetter does) but I wonder if there is more to it than that? I mean I have always ran 1/2 bottle of Water Wetter in my radiator but are a few soap drops just as effective?
Also, as was previously stated--pure water is more effective at taking away heat from your engine compared to an anit-freeze mixture. Anti-freeze exists for three reasons: To prevent freezing of the block, to increase the temperature at which plain water boils, and to prevent corrosion of the radiator and block. It doesn't cool as well as plain water though.
That is the whole point of a higher pressure radiator cap, it doesn't help cooling per-se, all it does is raise the point at which water or anti-freeze will boil. Once the coolant starts boiling even a little its heat transfer properties go to ****.
As long as you don't reach the temp at which coolant will boil, plain distilled water is a better choice in hot climates. I believe water under 1.3 bar of pressure will boil at something like 250 degrees, while a 50/50 mix of anti-freeze and water at the same pressure will boil at around 260-270. Those numbers might not be exact but its somewhere in that range.</TD></TR></TABLE>
according to the redline water wetter bottle it says on there that it has properties in there to lube your water pump and prevent rust and all of those negative things your talking about
all i can say is try it and you should love it!
Also, as was previously stated--pure water is more effective at taking away heat from your engine compared to an anit-freeze mixture. Anti-freeze exists for three reasons: To prevent freezing of the block, to increase the temperature at which plain water boils, and to prevent corrosion of the radiator and block. It doesn't cool as well as plain water though.
That is the whole point of a higher pressure radiator cap, it doesn't help cooling per-se, all it does is raise the point at which water or anti-freeze will boil. Once the coolant starts boiling even a little its heat transfer properties go to ****.
As long as you don't reach the temp at which coolant will boil, plain distilled water is a better choice in hot climates. I believe water under 1.3 bar of pressure will boil at something like 250 degrees, while a 50/50 mix of anti-freeze and water at the same pressure will boil at around 260-270. Those numbers might not be exact but its somewhere in that range.</TD></TR></TABLE>
according to the redline water wetter bottle it says on there that it has properties in there to lube your water pump and prevent rust and all of those negative things your talking about
all i can say is try it and you should love it!
05-09-2007, 12:36 PM
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I put plain water in my stock sleeve built motor and I swear to this day it rusted my h ead gasket causing a leak....so antifreeze it is for me!
05-09-2007, 12:54 PM
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Re: (vaporboy12)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vaporboy12 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">tap water and a few drops of dish soap here </TD></TR></TABLE>
Are we talking about cooliing or stripping your old layer of wax?
</TD></TR></TABLE>Are we talking about cooliing or stripping your old layer of wax?
05-09-2007, 08:49 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fmfkid250 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I put plain water in my stock sleeve built motor and I swear to this day it rusted my h ead gasket causing a leak....so antifreeze it is for me!</TD></TR></TABLE>
IF you put the water wetter in there it has additives that protect against that kind of thing happening
IF you put the water wetter in there it has additives that protect against that kind of thing happening
05-11-2007, 11:44 PM
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Re: (NLR)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NLR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">cycle logic engine ice.
propelyne glycol and deionized water.
</TD></TR></TABLE> Where can we get this stuff at? thanks.
propelyne glycol and deionized water.
</TD></TR></TABLE> Where can we get this stuff at? thanks.
05-12-2007, 11:27 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ReDemoN »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Is this just for full drag cars or street cars?
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LOL
if it's good enough for the track it's good enough for the street!
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LOL
if it's good enough for the track it's good enough for the street!
