donna

I have a 2000se vtec, just wondering when to change belt and also how many here have driven more than expected miles with no belt problem, I have an 88 corolla with 215k and original belt, still going strong for a 1.6 2bbl. but I believe its a non interference engine, not sure if the honda is..... and I wont chance the honda like the corolla, it was a freebe

goowakjai

i think its good upto 80K...

Vt4kpwn35

Till it breaks

No way to really tell, could be 80K could be 150K

deserthonda

put some money aside and do it in the next 10k ....keep in mind that the miles that your odometer reads it is not the actual mile that t-belt has on it, especially if you do a lot of city driving ,anytime you are stopped at traffic lites miles will not mount on the odometer up but t-belt is still turning

The_Todd

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by deserthonda &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">put some money aside and do it in the next 10k ....keep in mind that the miles that your odometer reads it is not the actual mile that t-belt has on it, especially if you do a lot of city driving ,anytime you are stopped at traffic lites miles will not mount on the odometer up but t-belt is still turning </TD></TR></TABLE>

Very good advice.

I try to change mine every 70K-80K. The mileage or time changes due to driving habits as higher reving puts more stress on all moving components.

Wesyder

the recommended mileage is 105k

Beach Accord

im doing mine @ 75K

changing upper and lower radiator hoses
balancer belt
balancer shaft seal
timing belt
ps, alt, and compressor belts
crank seal
cam seal
water pump
valve cover gasket
grommet kit (spark plug o-rings and valve cover grommets)
valve adjustment

that should be it

-chris B

p.s. i would do it @ 60K if i could do it all over again.... i am all about the early maintenance

ericjackson

i need mine done, im @141k, but im thinking of doing the h22a type s swap soon, so f-it

btw, mine is fine so far(knock on wood)

Chiovnidca

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btw, mine is fine so far(knock on wood)</TD></TR></TABLE>
Will it be fine until it snaps.

sashimi

Are the non-vtec accord engines interference type? If the timing belt breaks, is the engine ka-put?

i20ar

i dont think its a good idea on a honda engine to drive it untill it snaps.. i change mine at 80k.. just to be safe

NAiL05

I change mine every 70-75K.

jmouchett

Yes, it may be spinning while you are stopped, and it may be spinning while you are moving, but it's definitely not spinning at above 50 mph, so the mileage kind of equalizes out. So around 100K like the manual says is good, unless you are worried about it snapping all the time. If that is the case, let's say change it every 50K miles. I changed mine at 100K and honestly it would have lasted about another 20K or 30K.

ricebike

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"Whatcha' talking about, Willis?"

the timing belt is spinning all the time the engine is running/idling until the car is shut off... i never heard of it NOT spinning above a certain speed limit of 50mph. it's not a "flame" i just want to know where u got that info from...

most engines of the honda family are interference engines; except for the 3.2L so u can drive that engine till the belt snaps w/out any possible engine damage (pistons hitting a valve,etc.) PS: u can run that toyota engine 'till it snaps...

http://www.troublecodes.net/tbelt/hondatb.shtml

wifey has a 95 accord w/ 2.2L f22b2 & i told her to start saving some $ up for the timing belt...it already has 97K miles on it & that website says i shoulda have it changed ~90K miles

jmouchett

I didn't mean it quit spinning after 50 mph, but its not spinning at the speed of 50 mph when you are doing 50 mph, so whatever the speed in which it spins, it is not entirely making the same trip. Sorry for the misunderstanding

notoriousB

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x2

the crank pulley doesn't stop spinning above 50 mph!!! LMAO

someone else

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Well that would depend entirely on how a person drives. Speed the t-belt spins at has little to do with speed of the vehicle. Everything to do with the gear the car is in at any given time. I tend to drive my 5 speed accord geared down when driving around town, 3-4k rpm range. My grandma shifts her corrola (Yes my 80 yr old grandma drives a 5 speed.) around 2500 rpms most of the time because that's how my grandpa told her to drive.

And don't try to say autos are different because half the moron ricers out there are shifting those manually so the can hear the v-tak.

jmouchett

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And don't try to say autos are different because half the moron ricers out there are shifting those manually so the can hear the v-tak.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I never said anything about autos being different. All I was saying was that the belt may or may not be at a distance traveled equal to the that of the vehicle.

For example:

Average Vehicle Speed Over Year: 50 MPH
Speed of Timing Belt: 30 MPH

(365 Days a Year) * 50 MPH = 18,250
(365 Days a Year) * 30 MPH = 10,950

This makes a difference of 7300 Miles a Year

* NOTE * This was just an example explanation, I don't know how fast the timing belt is actually spinning, but to help you see what I was talking about

ricebike

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ahh, that's ok... now i know what u meant after a few other people posted... you're talking about the engine speed (RPMs) not the vehicle speed.

well, based on the site i posted about timing belt intervals, i noticed that it is reduced when you're going to be in a temperature extreme... i'm guessing the cycling of heat&lt;--&gt;cold would make it brittle/dryrot faster than normal. That, & how u abuse/drive your engine would make it a big factor in belt life.

(that's Y i try to choose timing-chain driven engines or Non-interference engines when considering another vehicle purchase) Now, if manufacturers started making kevlar-belted belts or something as indestructable, i'm back in w/ these interference engines.


Modified by ricebike at 3:06 PM 5/31/2005

someone else

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jmouchett &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I never said anything about autos being different. All I was saying was that the belt may or may not be at a distance traveled equal to the that of the vehicle.

For example:

Average Vehicle Speed Over Year: 50 MPH
Speed of Timing Belt: 30 MPH

(365 Days a Year) * 50 MPH = 18,250
(365 Days a Year) * 30 MPH = 10,950

This makes a difference of 7300 Miles a Year

* NOTE * This was just an example explanation, I don't know how fast the timing belt is actually spinning, but to help you see what I was talking about</TD></TR></TABLE>

What I'm trying to explain is that vehicle speed has little to do with timing belt wear. The car that averages 30mph will most likely have more actual wear because it is more likely used in town more. The car that averages 50mph will realistically have less wear because it is going to get most of it's wear at more sustained rpms.

There is a shopping mall that uses CR-Vs for security cars. They have 3, each one averages about 1400-2000 miles per year. Yet has a t-belt done every year because of the hours running they accumulate. They are running almost 24 hours a day. The highest mileage cr-v is a 99 with 12000+ miles on it. It has broken 2 t-belts.

Realistically an hour meter would be a better way to keep track of when the belt is due.

jmouchett

I agree with the hour meter would be much better