Cynical 1

just got a set of the SPC links. we'll see how well they work after i get them installed...

RED_90TEG

I'm running megan toe arms on my s2000 i know its kinda off topic but for megan parts its not bad..

Lo-Buck EF

they make wicked tuning with bearings in them also.

VTECIntegra9

Ah yes I believe I saw those but they were $230. But if I want to change them I'll just thread in my own rod ends and make some spacers if I can't find any. (to match the bushing width).

Cynical 1

well, got my SPC arms today... and i'm a little disappointed.

as per their description on several websites (including where i purchased) these are a spherical bearing end... well, they are not - they are just a hard rubber bushing...

however, they look fairly well built, and look like they have a ton of adjustability... we'll see on friday on the alignment rack...

VTECIntegra9

Which arms did you get? I think there are two kinds. One that looks offset and the other that is straight with a hex-stock style middle section.

Cynical 1

image is in the post.

the offset looking ones.

modusmortis

You ordered the wrong ones dude. You ordered pn 69250. You needed to order pn 69450 (if eg/dc) or 69460 (if ef). The ones Suldy ordered have the spherical bearings in them.

VTECIntegra9

What he said lol ^ I would honestly return those for the others.

Mine came in the mail today. Hooray I can get the rear suspension back together this weekend. And get the motor out.....

P.S. The blue was the only color option that was cheap... Good thing you can't see them when installed.

dbang003

awesome!

ordered the same ones...thanks for the info.

so what initial setup are you going to try. will you use these to change the static toe? or set toe using the slotted factory mount and change toe curve? i'm not sure where i will set mine to start. ie-thread arms to be same length as factory and set toe using factory adjustment then adjust arm from there to change curve? i'm a super noob at suspension theory.

-Drew

andyz

I tried to remove the compensator arm and the bolt was seized in the bushing. I bent the bracket out before I realized what was going on.

Cut the bushing bolt combo and arm to pieces, still couldnt get a good enough grip on the end of the bolt to get the bolt out of the captive nut.

Cut a hole just big enough to get the nut out in the bottom of the box.

Now what? I think i'll drill out the captive nut and stick it back in there, try to get it somewhat on the track, put another bolt in through the bracket, without the arm and bushing, then tighten down until the bracket is bent back.

Then stuff a new arm in there. Should I maybe use an adjustable arm?

This bracket and box deal aren't bearing much load right? It wouldn't seem so from the thickness of the stock setup.

Questions:

Will I ever get an alignment again?
Should I try to get somebody to reinforce the bracket and box deal ?

dbang003

you ever get yours set up? i'm finally done fighting the bolt that was seized in the inner bushing. and i had a spare oem bolt to throw back on there!

isn't very much room to adjust the lock nut that ends up on the inside. will probably bend the bracket a bit to get a wrench in there. i am going to lock the oem adjustable bolt to as far inward as possible. then i'll adjust toe via the wicked arm. i'm guessing that will yield a setting that makes the arm as long as possible thus reducing the amount of toe change during suspension travel. we'll see. getting it aligned in the next week or so then hoping to shake the car down at a local auto x.

hope you're up and running.

TunerN00b

That will reduce the toe change during suspension travel. However, if you end up with different compensator arm lengths side to side, you'll have a different toe curve on each side. That's why I suggested setting both sides to the same length and adjusting with the factory adjustment earlier in the thread.

I suppose if your goal was to minimize the toe changes altogether, you'd want one side's stock toe adjustment all the way in (towards center of car), both arms the exact same length, and the other side set where ever it needed to be for the same static toe setting.

The other part of the toe curve on our cars comes from the large TA bushing allowing longitudinal movement under braking. Changing the compensator arm length will also change that toe curve as well, as does changing bushing design design and stiffness.

dbang003

both arms were installed at the same length and the inner adjuster bolt positioned to be all the way inward. i know that they will end up at different lengths if i use the length of the arm to adjust toe, but i don't think they will be too far off from one another...at least not enough that my skills will notice.

if i have enough time up on the rack i can set one side then match the arm length on the other side and use the stock adjustment to set the static like you said.

thanks for the insight.

JHall250

Some solid information, thanks.

VTECIntegra9

I did get mine set up a few weeks ago, actually... just kind of got lazy and didn't post up. If the car had an engine in it - then I would be up and running but it's just up...on jackstands.

The wicked arms seemed to go in fine without issue, I just set them to the exact length of the stock arms and installed them in the slots. I did distort the driver's side slot pretty bad when I was removing the old bushing/arm so I'm debating if I want to just lock it in place or not... I would rather not damage the frame mount any more than a slight toe slope.

I also installed the PCI RTA bushings so I won't be able to make a good AtoB comparison on these but I'm still excited to see how the car feels.

Here is a quick pic of them installed.

Robin6

The only good ones come in Blue!


JK, but what ever your get, make sure they are within your budget and fit your application.

the above pic is not locked down, this was taken during the middle of the install at rcrew.
see the Wicked arm hanging in the pic, lol.

VTECIntegra9

Lol I hate the blue but luckily you can't see them... Just didn't feel like painting them. The non-blues were 2x as much :-P

Robin6

"hate" shortens lives.
live and love buddy!

cletus11

Does anyone know if these are legal for ST class in SCCA autocrossing? I don't see anything in the rules that specifically forbids them.

TunerN00b

Not legal.

The general rule of "if it doesn't say you can, then you can't" applies here.

jdmspoonitr

iTrader: (1)

Anyone using the Wicked Tuning Spherical units? Any feedback?

Robin6

Got them, love them.

jdmspoonitr

iTrader: (1)

can u tell any difference besides being able to adjust is there any difference in how the car performs?

Robin6

Being able to adjust was the reason I got them...lol
Being able to adjust them makes a difference with how the car performs.
For me Wicked was the preferred route because I was using all their other spherical parts, easy to place one order is all.

Just be sure what ever you get is well proven in the real world...does not break or come out of adjustment.