Tein Type-HA Shock Dyno
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Tein Type-HA Shock Dyno
These are fresh off a rebuild for 12k springs both front and rear. I had Lee @ Koni NA dyno test these for me. I'm actually pretty suprised with the results as they look somewhat similar to the Koni SPSS3 valving except that the Tein HA's will probably be a bit harsher due to not having quite as digressive curve as the SPSS3's. So at the same time probably lose a little bit of grip on really rough surfaces. Though I'm somewhat dissapointed with the L/R bias as if you look hard enough you'll see the secondary lines, it's easier for me to see since I shrunk these down. Though I'm not sure how much of a bias is still considered "normal."
These are for a Honda Prelude so 3000 lb pig.
Front: Refreshed for 12kg/mm springs. Probably will use 10kg/mm
Rear: Rebuilt to use 12kg/mm springs, and will be using that rate probably.
Looking to see if anyone else has any opinions on these since I know I only have a VERY limited knowledge base for looking at these things.
YES! I know I should of told them they only have 16 clicks instead of 20. Though I don't think any damage was done.
Here's a reference point from the Tein manual. Not sure if I should pay attention to the numbers as the one that Koni had for the fronts is around 1k higher newton value than this graph says for the fronts... The form of the line seems right however.
I'm posting this up here due to the higher knowledge base for specific autocross and track use (however this car is still a DD) as that's what matters to me.
These are for a Honda Prelude so 3000 lb pig.
Front: Refreshed for 12kg/mm springs. Probably will use 10kg/mm
Rear: Rebuilt to use 12kg/mm springs, and will be using that rate probably.
Looking to see if anyone else has any opinions on these since I know I only have a VERY limited knowledge base for looking at these things.
YES! I know I should of told them they only have 16 clicks instead of 20. Though I don't think any damage was done.
Here's a reference point from the Tein manual. Not sure if I should pay attention to the numbers as the one that Koni had for the fronts is around 1k higher newton value than this graph says for the fronts... The form of the line seems right however.
I'm posting this up here due to the higher knowledge base for specific autocross and track use (however this car is still a DD) as that's what matters to me.
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Re: Tein Type-HA Shock Dyno (obviousBOY)
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Re: Tein Type-HA Shock Dyno (TimeRacer)
kind of odd the knee on the rebound curves seem to move around. doesnt seem consistent at all.
im sure theyll work fine for you.
im sure theyll work fine for you.
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Re: Tein Type-HA Shock Dyno (Tyson)
I'm not sure what's going on in the low speed rebound. I expect some variation from test to test but it seems a tad excessive. Might need to call Tein and see what they say.
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Re: Tein Type-HA Shock Dyno (TimeRacer)
the high and low extremes are pretty consistent with the advertised graph actually. but its just odd how it changes in between. just an observation.
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can someone explain why the lower adjustment levels on the rebound start w/ a lower slope, then move to a higher slope? What function does that serve in controlling the car? Is it for comfort at lower settings?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by : alexander : »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'd like to see them retested after a couple of months</TD></TR></TABLE>
All of which would be nice but it's just for a DD and not a race kaa so more than likely I'm not going to bother taking them off again unless something adverse happens after a few months.
Lee @ Koni NA does this as a service to H-T members. You just need to ship the shocks to him for him to test.
As per the slope, my understanding is that with the low speed being low you'll feel more of an uncontrolled ride where it'll sway and oscilate during transitions instead of a firm ride which dampens it all. MOST Japanese style shocks don't care about low speed but in this build of mine they do... soooo you take it as you'd like.
All of which would be nice but it's just for a DD and not a race kaa so more than likely I'm not going to bother taking them off again unless something adverse happens after a few months.
Lee @ Koni NA does this as a service to H-T members. You just need to ship the shocks to him for him to test.
As per the slope, my understanding is that with the low speed being low you'll feel more of an uncontrolled ride where it'll sway and oscilate during transitions instead of a firm ride which dampens it all. MOST Japanese style shocks don't care about low speed but in this build of mine they do... soooo you take it as you'd like.
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I am referring to the lower adjustment levels on the rebound graph
not having the same shape/curve as the higher levels. The slopes on the lower ones seem to go low-high-low, whereas the slopes on the highest coupla levels go low-high (which in my understanding is digressive, which is what you want). It seems almost as if in the lower levels there's a "big chunk" of damping force missing, my only guess is that it's for comfort? Can omeone explain to me why? Also, I noticed the KONI yellows and alot of other shocks in the shock dyno thread share this same characteristic, thanks.
not having the same shape/curve as the higher levels. The slopes on the lower ones seem to go low-high-low, whereas the slopes on the highest coupla levels go low-high (which in my understanding is digressive, which is what you want). It seems almost as if in the lower levels there's a "big chunk" of damping force missing, my only guess is that it's for comfort? Can omeone explain to me why? Also, I noticed the KONI yellows and alot of other shocks in the shock dyno thread share this same characteristic, thanks.
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