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Old 05-24-2015, 01:45 PM
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.... the Hami rage brings me many joys. Just so damn funny/entertaining.
LOLOL... ok, I have to admit, it was a little enjoyable, or entertaining to say the least... ahahahaha
But I kinda didn't want Brittney to win it though.. u know now he's amongst the likes of Senna and Graham Hill with his 3 in a row.



Seb's Italian is back up to par.. bravo raggazze.


Oh, and JB in the points for McHonda.
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NOPE. Ferrari wasn't even in the pitlane. They didn't have to do anything. Ferrari wasn't a threat to pit.
sorry but yes, i am always going to take a free pit stop.
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NBC sucks, I bet they didn't run commercials during the Brit league futbol games.
Cutting off the podium ceremony was a nice touch.
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i would have done the same as they did: pit with margin to cover VET possibly pitting for fresh cucumbers also.
You're on a track that is nearly impossible to pass on and the super softs lasted over 30 laps with the cars at full weight. No need to pit in that situation and way too high of risk (even with his cushion, any problem in the pit stop would have lost positions).

Germans love complex solutions to simple problems though so we shouldn't be too surprised by the call to pit.
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I also wonder what was up with Ham pulling off to the side (was that by Portier?), and then he crashed in to the #3 sign.
Probably something in his eye again.
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Cutting off the podium ceremony was a nice touch.
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Yup, and that was like the best part, Ham's reactions, comments, body language was priceless, and Seb was just cold chillin. At least Nico admitted he had a lot of luck.

Then again NBC's been cutting off the post race interviews for a while now, not surprised they cut the podium ceremony... supposedly they said it was going to CNBC or something for the ceremony, but all the NBC channels had Brit League futbol.

Good thing I caught the ceremony on UniMas.
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result bummed me out yo.

hate **** like that. merc fanboi so a team win is a good win, but still, looking at it as a raging competitor...ugh.
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Germans love complex solutions to simple problems though so we shouldn't be too surprised by the call to pit.
It was Hamilton's call. Merc told him to stay out.

He saw the Merc pit crew out when he looked at one of the big screens and thought Nico had already pitted.
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Is it common for the VSC sign to switch so fast to a full SC situation?
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sorry but yes, i am always going to take a free pit stop.
Any other track with normal Pirelli deg I agree 100% but in this instance I wouldn't even pit if they told me to come in. Hindsight is 20/20 but as soon as he pulled in I was like wut? I was more baffled by his pit stop than I was by Max's divebomb.
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Is it common for the VSC sign to switch so fast to a full SC situation?
this was the first ever instantiation of the VSC during a race.
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It was Hamilton's call. Merc told him to stay out.

He saw the Merc pit crew out when he looked at one of the big screens and thought Nico had already pitted.
A driver is working with very limited information and should not be allowed to make a call like this. There is a reason Mercedes has race engineers. If Lewis doesn't trust their judgment he should find a different team to drive for.
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A driver is working with very limited information and should not be allowed to make a call like this. There is a reason Mercedes has race engineers. If Lewis doesn't trust their judgment he should find a different team to drive for.
Lewis doesn't listen to what the team tells him.

this is from the last race:

Asking the team if it was "impossible to catch" Rosberg, the World Champion was told "we should just consolidate the position."

Hamilton was not happy about hearing that.

"It's not nice for a driver ever to hear that," he said on Sunday night. "I'm here to race; I'm not here to finish second, so naturally I ignored that."

The Brit continued to push hard, forcing Rosberg to do the same.

But once he realised the task was fruitless, he backed off to cross the line 17 seconds behind his team-mate.
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if anyone missed the post-race stuff (podium, interviews, etc.), you can see all that via the NBC Sports site.

Lewis was grumpy as hell. loved it when they were chanting "LEWIS, LEWIS" after the anthem.
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It was Hamilton's call. Merc told him to stay out.

He saw the Merc pit crew out when he looked at one of the big screens and thought Nico had already pitted.
A few interviews I heard Toto saying it was Merc's fault and that he apologizes to Lewis.

I dunno for sure who's fault it was until more news comes out, but it was a bad move regardless. Even Niki's said that's not how a championship team should act. #notthinkinglikeachampion lols.
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actually, it probably was more Ham's fault, according to this...
Hamilton contributes to his own downfall | thejudge13

Hamilton challenged the decision which had been made that he should ‘stay out’, and told the team, “these tyres are going to drop in temperature”.
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Yet one of the cold hard realities in the post mortem will be, had Hamilton simply obeyed the instructions from the team to “stay out”, the fateful pit stop would never have taken place. Add to that, Lewis was unhappy with the team’s strategy which failed to pit him last year, and so he added an incremental element of doubt into the confusion over whether Lewis should receive a change of tyres.
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Lewis conceded in the media pen, “I feel content in my heart; I did everything I could,” admitting “It was a collective decision.”

Of course it was Mercedes pit wall who failed to correctly asses at the last corner that Lewis no longer had a sufficient gap to get in and get out and remain in the lead, but by then the die was cast and it had been decided that Lewis would be coming into the pits.
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Oh, and Prost also won 3 in a row in Monaco as well... I always forget about Frenchy.
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sorry but yes, i am always going to take a free pit stop.
But it wasn't free doe?

I was thinking about this through the afternoon/evening about HOW IN THE **** he could lose 20+ seconds under the SC. Then it occurred to me, Hami got picked up by the SC while the other two got to go much quicker to "line up" behind him.

I'm not saying Falcon or I wouldn't have made this mistake, but how Merc does is beyond me. I will say this, Toto's explanations are good enough for me (one of which was Ferrari could have pitted Seb because they were 10s behind, and if Hami was at Rascasse, then Seb was only at the Swimming pool, enough time to make a last second pit call). Now the Sky F1 boys? Dear christ what a bunch of nut swingers. No doubt Hami got screwed out, but these guys make it sound like Merc banged Hami's girlfriends (yes, plural) while he had to watch.
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Oh, and Nico handling this thing good.

Ted Kravitz. What a total homer.
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Now the Sky F1 boys? Dear christ what a bunch of nut swingers. No doubt Hami got screwed out, but these guys make it sound like Merc banged Hami's girlfriends (yes, plural) while he had to watch.
Just like at Spa last year. The endless analysis of the Merc incident was unreal.
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it's almost like the british broadcaster favors the british driver.

i'm glad the US broadcaster never favored the US driver.
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what's wrong with honda's aero kits in indy? too many winglets?
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He led Rosberg by 19.349s at the moment the virtual safety car was deployed, but needed more than 24s in hand to resume the race in front of the pack. The fastest pitstop duration of the entire race was Kimi Raikkonen's sole stop on lap 37, which took 24.177s, meaning Hamilton was already 4.826s shy of the gap he needed - even without the fact his extra stop was another 1.318s slower than Ferrari's benchmark (on account of having to wait for Felipe Nasr's Sauber to drive past in the pitlane).

So the question on everyone's lips after seeing Rosberg, not Hamilton, win the 62nd running of the Monaco Grand Prix was: why on Earth did Mercedes decide to make that extra stop?

"The simple answer is we got the math, the calculation wrong," explained team boss Toto Wolff, during a packed media briefing in the Mercedes motorhome. "We thought we had a gap which we didn't have when the safety car came out. In Monaco, you have no GPS and that makes the whole exercise more difficult - this is why we got it wrong when it switched from the virtual safety into the safety car.
oh i was wrong, i thought HAM had time in hand for a pit stop and the VSC/SC erased that. he never really had a chance. maybe if the VSC permanently deployed the gaps would have been preserved?
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oh i was wrong, i thought HAM had time in hand for a pit stop and the VSC/SC erased that. he never really had a chance. maybe if the VSC permanently deployed the gaps would have been preserved?
That's what the NBC guys were saying, the switch from VSC to SC made a difference. It's all a moot point doe if Ham came in after being told not to. Do we know if that was truth or just a rumor?
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it's almost like the british broadcaster favors the british driver.

I'm glad the US broadcaster never favored the US driver.
"We are so gutted for Lewis" is much different than "WHY DID THEY STEAL IT FROM HIM WHYYYYYYY, WHHHHYYYYYY????!!!" Seriously they're being sensational and really, really ******* dramatic (I know that's rich coming from me, but still). Whatever happened to British stoicism?

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oh i was wrong, i thought HAM had time in hand for a pit stop and the VSC/SC erased that. he never really had a chance. maybe if the VSC permanently deployed the gaps would have been preserved?
I think Ham got picked up by the SC, while Nico and Seb got to blast up to the SC (within reason) while Ham had to put around and THEN go bit.

A royal **** up. Easily made by amateurs (as I), but still find error that large a bit surprising. Like they say in F1, it's never really over until the checkered flag falls, and the stewards say so, and the Court of Appeals agree.
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That's what the NBC guys were saying, the switch from VSC to SC made a difference. It's all a moot point doe if Ham came in after being told not to. Do we know if that was truth or just a rumor?
its what ham said in the press conference. Merc said no, he saw the pit guys out on the big screen assuming rosberg was pitting and said my tire temps are fucked and made the decision to pit.
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I can't put that on Ham. Merc had the data that said he could pit and remain ahead (or so they thought). And whatever issues Ham said he had with the tires, Nico and Seb would have too. Let the best single-seater racers in the world do their damn job and warm up cold tires.

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