The Official Formula 1 2014 Season Thread
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If they look like they are going score a point before their 5th year I'll reconsider.
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10-22-2014, 07:27 AM
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(CNN) -- American entrepreneur Gene Haas is a great believer in the adage "you've got to speculate to accumulate."
Which goes some way to explaining why he's prepared to enter the dollar-draining world of Formula One -- and expects to make money.
Tthe 61-year-old NASCAR team owner has been motoring on with his plans to build his brand new Haas F1 Team from scratch to join the grid in 2016.
As the founder of Haas Automation, he sees F1's global world championship as the perfect shop window for his billion dollar machine tool manufacturing business.
"If I can achieve an extra billion in sales, we will pay for whatever F1 costs," the Californian told CNN's The Circuit.
"Some teams spend half a billion, some spend 50 million dollars a year," as Haas did the maths. "We should be somewhere in the middle of that."
Haas has taken note of Red Bull Racing's success in F1, a team that has won four straight world titles in the 10 years since Austrian tycoon Dietrich Mateschitz, the co-founder of the energy drink company, bought and revamped the Jaguar race team.
"Just the association of being with F1 basically takes a brand from nobody to the stratosphere," said Haas, whose team will be based in Kannapolis, North Carolina, though it will have an overseas office close to London, England.
However, a concern for Haas must be that F1's most recent start-ups have enduring mixed fortunes.
Of the three teams who joined F1 when the grid was expanded to 12 teams in 2010, only Caterham and Marussia remain in business.
The Spanish HRT team quit the sport because of lack of funding at the end of 2012, while Caterham and Marussia are still battling to survive from the back of the grid, with the future of both teams far from certain.
"I think their biggest problem was trying to get to the grid so fast," argued Haas. "For us we want to make sure that before the cars come for practice in January 2016, we will have that chassis hopefully completely assembled by November.
"We will spend a fair amount of time making sure we have the right spares, the right pit equipment, the right logistics, the right containers -- all the right things that takes us to get to the race."
Having started his own NASCAR team in 2003, Haas joined forces with three-time Sprint Cup champion Tony Stewart to form the successful Stewart-Haas Racing team in 2009.
If NASCAR taught Haas anything it is that the right connections are essential to motorsport success.
Hence his F1 team has already signed a technical partnership with Ferrari, the most successful team in the history of the sport.
The agreement means the Italian marque will supply the Haas team with hybrid engines and gearboxes as well as general technical support.
"It's the people that you partner with," responds Haas, when asked what he learned from setting up his NASCAR team from the bottom up.
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"Ferrari wanted to go beyond being just an engine supplier and they were going to help us with the basic structures of the car.
"It's an honor to have Ferrari help us in this way and we take all the help they can give us because you can't really get better than Ferrari."
Haas was at the Italian Grand Prix, where rumors also swirled about the concept of F1's major marques -- the likes of Ferrari, McLaren, Mercedes and Red Bull -- running three-car teams, an idea that would potentially see minnows like the Haas F1 Team knocked off the grid.
"I'm ready for a Formula One with eight teams with three cars each," F1 supremo Bernie Ecclestone told Italian newspaper Gazzetta dello Sport in an interview:
But the implacable Haas says he is not worried that his eponymous F1 team won't have a place on the grid if Ecclestone's idea comes to fruition.
"We have a license, we will be there," Haas insisted. "Unless something changes that would be a shock to me.
"I think Bernie's objective is to have teams who are well-structured, well-funded and that race at a level that the world championship requires."
So Haas continues to focus on overseeing the first American-based F1 team to compete at the elite level of global motorsport since 1986.
A bid by the USF1 team to join the grid in 2010 ended ignominiously because of a lack of funding.
American dream
F1 still lags behind the domestic NASCAR and IndyCar series when it comes to audience share.
However the reintroduction of the U.S. Grand Prix in 2012 on a new circuit in Austin in 2012 has helped grow the sport's popularity.
"I tell ya, an American team with an American driver would be simply hitting it out of the ball park as far as the media would be concerned," enthused Haas.
"We would love to do that but it's a bit too early to try and predict that. It would be great to have fellow Americans behind us and supporting us, that would be a tremendous push for us."
If winning over homegrown motorsport fans is a long-term aim -- not to forget the plans to double the turnover of the Haas business -- then the short-term goal for the Californian car enthusiast is much more prosaic.
"The first five years is about just surviving," Haas says. "I don't have any grander expectations that we are going to go there and win championships.
"If we can even win one race in five years that would be a tremendous success."
Given Marussia have only won two points -- thanks to stricken driver Jules Bianchi's ninth-place finish in Monaco this season -- and Caterham are yet to score a point, a grand prix victory for the Haas F1 Team would be success indeed.
Hammer time
Don't bet against it happening though with Haas at the helm.
"I've been tinkering with cars most of my life, since I was 10 years old," adds Haas. "I always had this flavor, this attitude 'yeah I think I can do that a little bit better.'
"I just never give up and keep trying, trying and trying. I just keep hammering away.
"If you keep doing something long enough, you learn how to do it and I don't think F1 is any different.
"It's just a challenge. Certainly the biggest challenge of my career but I don't have any doubts we can do it. You just don't give up."
Which goes some way to explaining why he's prepared to enter the dollar-draining world of Formula One -- and expects to make money.
Tthe 61-year-old NASCAR team owner has been motoring on with his plans to build his brand new Haas F1 Team from scratch to join the grid in 2016.
As the founder of Haas Automation, he sees F1's global world championship as the perfect shop window for his billion dollar machine tool manufacturing business.
"If I can achieve an extra billion in sales, we will pay for whatever F1 costs," the Californian told CNN's The Circuit.
"Some teams spend half a billion, some spend 50 million dollars a year," as Haas did the maths. "We should be somewhere in the middle of that."
Haas has taken note of Red Bull Racing's success in F1, a team that has won four straight world titles in the 10 years since Austrian tycoon Dietrich Mateschitz, the co-founder of the energy drink company, bought and revamped the Jaguar race team.
"Just the association of being with F1 basically takes a brand from nobody to the stratosphere," said Haas, whose team will be based in Kannapolis, North Carolina, though it will have an overseas office close to London, England.
However, a concern for Haas must be that F1's most recent start-ups have enduring mixed fortunes.
Of the three teams who joined F1 when the grid was expanded to 12 teams in 2010, only Caterham and Marussia remain in business.
The Spanish HRT team quit the sport because of lack of funding at the end of 2012, while Caterham and Marussia are still battling to survive from the back of the grid, with the future of both teams far from certain.
"I think their biggest problem was trying to get to the grid so fast," argued Haas. "For us we want to make sure that before the cars come for practice in January 2016, we will have that chassis hopefully completely assembled by November.
"We will spend a fair amount of time making sure we have the right spares, the right pit equipment, the right logistics, the right containers -- all the right things that takes us to get to the race."
Having started his own NASCAR team in 2003, Haas joined forces with three-time Sprint Cup champion Tony Stewart to form the successful Stewart-Haas Racing team in 2009.
If NASCAR taught Haas anything it is that the right connections are essential to motorsport success.
Hence his F1 team has already signed a technical partnership with Ferrari, the most successful team in the history of the sport.
The agreement means the Italian marque will supply the Haas team with hybrid engines and gearboxes as well as general technical support.
"It's the people that you partner with," responds Haas, when asked what he learned from setting up his NASCAR team from the bottom up.
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"Ferrari wanted to go beyond being just an engine supplier and they were going to help us with the basic structures of the car.
"It's an honor to have Ferrari help us in this way and we take all the help they can give us because you can't really get better than Ferrari."
Haas was at the Italian Grand Prix, where rumors also swirled about the concept of F1's major marques -- the likes of Ferrari, McLaren, Mercedes and Red Bull -- running three-car teams, an idea that would potentially see minnows like the Haas F1 Team knocked off the grid.
"I'm ready for a Formula One with eight teams with three cars each," F1 supremo Bernie Ecclestone told Italian newspaper Gazzetta dello Sport in an interview:
But the implacable Haas says he is not worried that his eponymous F1 team won't have a place on the grid if Ecclestone's idea comes to fruition.
"We have a license, we will be there," Haas insisted. "Unless something changes that would be a shock to me.
"I think Bernie's objective is to have teams who are well-structured, well-funded and that race at a level that the world championship requires."
So Haas continues to focus on overseeing the first American-based F1 team to compete at the elite level of global motorsport since 1986.
A bid by the USF1 team to join the grid in 2010 ended ignominiously because of a lack of funding.
American dream
F1 still lags behind the domestic NASCAR and IndyCar series when it comes to audience share.
However the reintroduction of the U.S. Grand Prix in 2012 on a new circuit in Austin in 2012 has helped grow the sport's popularity.
"I tell ya, an American team with an American driver would be simply hitting it out of the ball park as far as the media would be concerned," enthused Haas.
"We would love to do that but it's a bit too early to try and predict that. It would be great to have fellow Americans behind us and supporting us, that would be a tremendous push for us."
If winning over homegrown motorsport fans is a long-term aim -- not to forget the plans to double the turnover of the Haas business -- then the short-term goal for the Californian car enthusiast is much more prosaic.
"The first five years is about just surviving," Haas says. "I don't have any grander expectations that we are going to go there and win championships.
"If we can even win one race in five years that would be a tremendous success."
Given Marussia have only won two points -- thanks to stricken driver Jules Bianchi's ninth-place finish in Monaco this season -- and Caterham are yet to score a point, a grand prix victory for the Haas F1 Team would be success indeed.
Hammer time
Don't bet against it happening though with Haas at the helm.
"I've been tinkering with cars most of my life, since I was 10 years old," adds Haas. "I always had this flavor, this attitude 'yeah I think I can do that a little bit better.'
"I just never give up and keep trying, trying and trying. I just keep hammering away.
"If you keep doing something long enough, you learn how to do it and I don't think F1 is any different.
"It's just a challenge. Certainly the biggest challenge of my career but I don't have any doubts we can do it. You just don't give up."
10-22-2014, 10:50 AM
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Did USF1 even get this far?
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On 29 June 2014, Caterham Enterprises Ltd, Caterham (UK) Ltd and Sheikh Mohamed Nasarudin (Seller) and their shareholders Tony Fernandes and Datuk Kamarudin Bin Meranun entered into a Sale and Purchase Agreement (SPA) with Engavest SA (Buyer) with regards to 1Malaysia Racing Team Sdn Bhd/Caterham F1 Team.
Since the date of the Agreement, the Seller has refused to comply with its legal obligations to transfer their shares to the Buyer. The Buyer has been left in the invidious position of funding the team without having legal title to the team it had bought. This is in total contradiction to the Seller's press release of 3 October 2014 which stated that Mr Fernandes and his Caterham Group had no longer any connection with the Caterham F1 Team.
The administrators of Caterham Sports Limited have been appointed on behalf of Export-Import Bank of Malaysia Berhad (Exim), a creditor of Mr Fernandes and the Caterham Group. The Buyer has no connection with Exim. Caterham Sports Ltd was a supplier company to the Caterham F1 Team. Very regrettably, the administrators' appointment has had devastating effects on the F1 Team's activities. Since their appointment, the administrators have released various press statements which have been severely detrimental to the management of the Caterham F1 team.
After three months of operating the Caterham F1 Team in good faith, the Buyer is now forced to explore all its options including the withdrawal of its management team. Lawyers have been instructed by the Buyer to bring all necessary claims against all parties, including Mr Fernandes who, as an owner, will run the F1 operation.
Since the date of the Agreement, the Seller has refused to comply with its legal obligations to transfer their shares to the Buyer. The Buyer has been left in the invidious position of funding the team without having legal title to the team it had bought. This is in total contradiction to the Seller's press release of 3 October 2014 which stated that Mr Fernandes and his Caterham Group had no longer any connection with the Caterham F1 Team.
The administrators of Caterham Sports Limited have been appointed on behalf of Export-Import Bank of Malaysia Berhad (Exim), a creditor of Mr Fernandes and the Caterham Group. The Buyer has no connection with Exim. Caterham Sports Ltd was a supplier company to the Caterham F1 Team. Very regrettably, the administrators' appointment has had devastating effects on the F1 Team's activities. Since their appointment, the administrators have released various press statements which have been severely detrimental to the management of the Caterham F1 team.
After three months of operating the Caterham F1 Team in good faith, the Buyer is now forced to explore all its options including the withdrawal of its management team. Lawyers have been instructed by the Buyer to bring all necessary claims against all parties, including Mr Fernandes who, as an owner, will run the F1 operation.
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Read somewhere else that the team is trying to get the cars shipped to Austin before they get impounded.
10-22-2014, 11:22 AM
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They're keeping the cars in Germany (AFAIK) to avoid having them impounded in the UK.
I hope Kamui and the other guy don't get hurt driving claptrap cars.
I hope Kamui and the other guy don't get hurt driving claptrap cars.
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Caterham Adminstrator gets tough
As reported by TJ13, the Caterham cars returned from a short vacation in Germany following the Russian GP. The plan was to spruce up the livery, add some windscreen wash and oil, then send them on their way to Austin.
However, the Administrator appointed to manage the affairs of the Caterham F1 debacle has scuppered this plan. Finbarr O’Connell now says, “My legal advice is that I own the cars and won’t be allowing the cars out of the factory until I reach an acceptable agreement,” said Finbarr O’Connell
Further, last week TJ13 received reports that a factory in Banbury was being prepared as a contingent should the team be forced from its current base in Leafield. This may now be necessary fairly soon, as O’Connell is insistent, “We are allowing 1MRT (the team) to use our facility while we negotiate a settlement. They need to reach an agreement with us.”
All the alleged fuss and bother about who owns what, appears to have been resolved already as the administrator is flexing his muscle to ensure assets (cars) are not about to head to the land of Disney anytime soon.
This ‘confused ownership’ nonsense has been perpetrated since Ravetto attempted a smoke and mirrors charade prior to the Japanese GP, with another of his “Hi know nothing” Fawlty Towers soliloquies.
The fact is, if 1MRT have been paying or appropriate fees to Caterham Sports Ltd who were contracted to supply and maintain the F1 cars, then the assets – the cars and race equipment and factory fixtures and fittings – still belong to the company now under the control of the administrator.
Manfredi and his buddies are left with little and stand Gollum like clutching the precious racing license signed by the FIA.
It is unbelievable that anyone still buys the ‘Swiss based Arab investor’ nonsense. Even were these ghosts of the night real, and refusing to pay debt left undisclosed by Fernandes, they should know how much it costs to run even a shoestring version of operations at Caterham.
It appears the Administrator may have struck a fatal blow to the Kolles master plan of syphoning away cash provided from the pay drivers to develop his Forza Rosso car on the QT – whilst barely maintaining a skeleton effort to run the Caterham 2014 cars until Abu Dhabi.
So then, 20 cars for Austin? Yes, unless a real world oil backed cheque of some significance, lands on the Administrators desk and arrives with the precision of the historic reputation of the Swiss based clockmakers.
As reported by TJ13, the Caterham cars returned from a short vacation in Germany following the Russian GP. The plan was to spruce up the livery, add some windscreen wash and oil, then send them on their way to Austin.
However, the Administrator appointed to manage the affairs of the Caterham F1 debacle has scuppered this plan. Finbarr O’Connell now says, “My legal advice is that I own the cars and won’t be allowing the cars out of the factory until I reach an acceptable agreement,” said Finbarr O’Connell
Further, last week TJ13 received reports that a factory in Banbury was being prepared as a contingent should the team be forced from its current base in Leafield. This may now be necessary fairly soon, as O’Connell is insistent, “We are allowing 1MRT (the team) to use our facility while we negotiate a settlement. They need to reach an agreement with us.”
All the alleged fuss and bother about who owns what, appears to have been resolved already as the administrator is flexing his muscle to ensure assets (cars) are not about to head to the land of Disney anytime soon.
This ‘confused ownership’ nonsense has been perpetrated since Ravetto attempted a smoke and mirrors charade prior to the Japanese GP, with another of his “Hi know nothing” Fawlty Towers soliloquies.
The fact is, if 1MRT have been paying or appropriate fees to Caterham Sports Ltd who were contracted to supply and maintain the F1 cars, then the assets – the cars and race equipment and factory fixtures and fittings – still belong to the company now under the control of the administrator.
Manfredi and his buddies are left with little and stand Gollum like clutching the precious racing license signed by the FIA.
It is unbelievable that anyone still buys the ‘Swiss based Arab investor’ nonsense. Even were these ghosts of the night real, and refusing to pay debt left undisclosed by Fernandes, they should know how much it costs to run even a shoestring version of operations at Caterham.
It appears the Administrator may have struck a fatal blow to the Kolles master plan of syphoning away cash provided from the pay drivers to develop his Forza Rosso car on the QT – whilst barely maintaining a skeleton effort to run the Caterham 2014 cars until Abu Dhabi.
So then, 20 cars for Austin? Yes, unless a real world oil backed cheque of some significance, lands on the Administrators desk and arrives with the precision of the historic reputation of the Swiss based clockmakers.
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So Seb and Dan will be hooning in the 2011 RB6 and Inifiti Q50 Eau Rouge next Wednesday on South Congress at lunch time. I guess I'll be going to my evening class instead...
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By Alex Duff Oct 20, 2014 7:33 AM PT
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A Belgian racetrack will contest an application by carmaker Nissan Motor Co.’s (7201) Infiniti brand to trademark “Eau Rouge,” one of Formula One auto racing’s most famous turns.
Nissan is seeking the trademark for Infiniti’s Q50 Eau Rouge prototype, which may cost as much as $100,000 if produced. Pierre-Alain Thibaut, director of the Spa-Francorchamps circuit, said it will challenge the application.
“It’s like they want to steal the brand from the circuit,” Thibaut said in a phone interview. “We consider it exactly the opposite of fair play.”
Stefann Weinmann, an Infiniti spokesman in Hong Kong, didn’t immediately return a telephone call seeking comment on the objection. Kyle Bazemore, a U.S.-based spokesman for Infiniti, didn’t return a call and e-mail.
Weinmann said Aug. 22 that Infiniti is testing components for the car and hasn’t made a final decision on whether to produce the so-called super sedan, or on its name.
Eau Rouge, or Red Water, is a sweeping uphill part of the circuit that is “arguably the most famous corner” in all Formula One, the series website said in a 2010 article. It takes its name from a stream that crosses the circuit through the Ardennes forest.
The circuit, which dates back to the 1920s, is owned by the regional Wallonian government.
The U.S. Patent and Trademark Office said in a filing on its website that it will publish the application on Nov. 4, opening a 30-day period for complaints.
Nissan also sought the “Eau Rouge” trademark in Japan, Thibaut said. In April, the circuit obtained a European Union trademark for the name.
Infiniti plans a demonstration by Formula One drivers of the Q50 Eau Rouge on Oct. 29 in Austin, Texas, before the U.S. Grand Prix, according to a news release.
To contact the reporter on this story: Alex Duff in Madrid at aduff4@bloomberg.net
To contact the editors responsible for this story: Christopher Elser at celser@bloomberg.net Sara Marley
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A Belgian racetrack will contest an application by carmaker Nissan Motor Co.’s (7201) Infiniti brand to trademark “Eau Rouge,” one of Formula One auto racing’s most famous turns.
Nissan is seeking the trademark for Infiniti’s Q50 Eau Rouge prototype, which may cost as much as $100,000 if produced. Pierre-Alain Thibaut, director of the Spa-Francorchamps circuit, said it will challenge the application.
“It’s like they want to steal the brand from the circuit,” Thibaut said in a phone interview. “We consider it exactly the opposite of fair play.”
Stefann Weinmann, an Infiniti spokesman in Hong Kong, didn’t immediately return a telephone call seeking comment on the objection. Kyle Bazemore, a U.S.-based spokesman for Infiniti, didn’t return a call and e-mail.
Weinmann said Aug. 22 that Infiniti is testing components for the car and hasn’t made a final decision on whether to produce the so-called super sedan, or on its name.
Eau Rouge, or Red Water, is a sweeping uphill part of the circuit that is “arguably the most famous corner” in all Formula One, the series website said in a 2010 article. It takes its name from a stream that crosses the circuit through the Ardennes forest.
The circuit, which dates back to the 1920s, is owned by the regional Wallonian government.
The U.S. Patent and Trademark Office said in a filing on its website that it will publish the application on Nov. 4, opening a 30-day period for complaints.
Nissan also sought the “Eau Rouge” trademark in Japan, Thibaut said. In April, the circuit obtained a European Union trademark for the name.
Infiniti plans a demonstration by Formula One drivers of the Q50 Eau Rouge on Oct. 29 in Austin, Texas, before the U.S. Grand Prix, according to a news release.
To contact the reporter on this story: Alex Duff in Madrid at aduff4@bloomberg.net
To contact the editors responsible for this story: Christopher Elser at celser@bloomberg.net Sara Marley
10-22-2014, 06:18 PM
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that looks like a Mazda 6
10-22-2014, 06:23 PM
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T. Swift and I will eat before... AND after...
I think the Fan Forum is Wednesday or Thursday next week too. To recap my loot FROM last year's Fan Forum:
1-Signed Williams hat (THANKS PASTOR)
2-Autograph pic from Cut yo neck
3-XXL Caterham F1 button shirt
4-XXL Force India Polo
5-Esteban signed iPhone 5s (I provided the 5s)
6-CHECO McLAREN signed 5s case (also provided by I)
I think the Fan Forum is Wednesday or Thursday next week too. To recap my loot FROM last year's Fan Forum:
1-Signed Williams hat (THANKS PASTOR)
2-Autograph pic from Cut yo neck
3-XXL Caterham F1 button shirt
4-XXL Force India Polo
5-Esteban signed iPhone 5s (I provided the 5s)
6-CHECO McLAREN signed 5s case (also provided by I)
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