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tuan... 11-03-2003 04:50 PM

Signs of bent valves??
 
can u guys tell me what kind of signs i should look for if i bent my valves?? i think i bent a bunch of them after shifting into 2nd instead of 4th at 95mph..

Smoochy 11-03-2003 05:00 PM

Re: Signs of bent valves?? (h22poweredgsr)
 

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i can't really help but thats some high ass shit
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[ iLL ] iNt3GrA 11-03-2003 05:08 PM

what did it rev up 2? at that speed must of went up real high

tuan... 11-03-2003 05:29 PM

i have no idea, i dont really remember, it was so quick and i was shocked that i had grinded and didnt noe wat happened. im sure i was in pretty high rpms

FURACERMAN 11-03-2003 05:37 PM

Try taking off the intake tube and listening for pssst sounds. I know that on v8s you can hear bent valves through the carb. Or you can rip off the head.

tilt 11-03-2003 05:43 PM

Re: Signs of bent valves?? (h22poweredgsr)
 
rough idle. bad compression.

216.226.142.95:27016 11-03-2003 05:57 PM

Re: (FURACERMAN)
 
do a compression test

tuan... 11-03-2003 05:58 PM

yes i hear hissing sounds, also i had a compression test and it was 70, 170, 125, and 95 from left to right and idle is bad. i guess i bent sum valves.. what else might of happen due to overreving?? coulpe of messed up pistons?? any idea how much this is gonna run me?

Komsomol 11-03-2003 06:18 PM

Re: Signs of bent valves?? (h22poweredgsr)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by h22poweredgsr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">can u guys tell me what kind of signs i should look for if i bent my valves?? i think i bent a bunch of them after shifting into 2nd instead of 4th at 95mph..</TD></TR></TABLE>

Hmm okay https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...s/emhammer.gif
But a few of us have done this. I actually feel that its a design problem.
Honda could easily have installed a lock out like they have in first gear.
Anyway.. Symptoms would be running on like two cylanders, car stalling,
smoking, generally running like ashit.

Mr. Softee 11-03-2003 06:21 PM

Re: Signs of bent valves?? (8400RPMS)
 
replace those valves before one of them breaks and creates a nasty mess. if they are bent enough there will be stress fractures which will not like high rpms, detonation or high cylinder pressures at all.
ive bent 16 ferrea valves before so i fel your pain. shifting at 9500 into 2nd gear from 3rd gear does wonders. my car died and when i took the head off some of the valves were snapped in half.

tuan... 11-03-2003 06:38 PM

when it died, could u star tit up again and have a good idle?? my idle is all funny and if i rev it and let off, it dies. right after this happened, my car wouldnt idle at all, then i clean up a couple spark plugs and it starts up hard but would idle. im not driving it right now til i get the head pull and see whats wrong. did u break anything else besides the valveS? any tips on pulling the head? i wanna do it myself w/ a couple of friends. dont wanna pay sumbody to do it, already tight on money. https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emsad.gif

canuckr 11-03-2003 06:40 PM

Re: (h22poweredgsr)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by h22poweredgsr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yes i hear hissing sounds, also i had a compression test and it was 70, 170, 125, and 95 from left to right and idle is bad. i guess i bent sum valves.. what else might of happen due to overreving?? coulpe of messed up pistons?? any idea how much this is gonna run me?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Do a leak down test also if you can. So far I would bet you bent some valves by looking at your compression numbers and what mentioned earlier. If your lucky you just have bent valves, if your not your pistons will be damaged also. Dont feel to bad I did the same thing last week, I wasnt so lucky. Bent all of the exhaust valves and damaged all 4 pistons. At least I have something to do this winter https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...es/emsmile.gif

B00ST2nR 11-03-2003 06:43 PM

Re: (h22poweredgsr)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by h22poweredgsr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yes i hear hissing sounds, also i had a compression test and it was 70, 170, 125, and 95 from left to right and idle is bad. i guess i bent sum valves.. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeap. Looks like you bent some. That sucks.

patdemps 11-03-2003 07:28 PM

Re: (Skunk2nR)
 
Bent valves (ticking noise from engine, occassional stall, rough idle...all symptoms.)

Go to c-speedracing.com for any instructions you need on the removal of the head, adjustment of the valves or pretty much anything else needed.


SubieDude 11-03-2003 07:41 PM

Re: Signs of bent valves?? (h22poweredgsr)
 
If you want to get specific whether or not its intake or exhaust valve are bent...when you do the compression test put your hand over the throttle body if you feel air coming out its an intake valve same goes for the exhuast out the tail pipe....good luck and lets hope its not coming from both sides http://images.honda-tech.com/set1//smile/emcrook.gif

Mr. Softee 11-03-2003 09:08 PM

Re: (h22poweredgsr)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by h22poweredgsr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">when it died, could u star tit up again and have a good idle?? my idle is all funny and if i rev it and let off, it dies. right after this happened, my car wouldnt idle at all, then i clean up a couple spark plugs and it starts up hard but would idle. im not driving it right now til i get the head pull and see whats wrong. did u break anything else besides the valveS? any tips on pulling the head? i wanna do it myself w/ a couple of friends. dont wanna pay sumbody to do it, already tight on money. https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emsad.gif</TD></TR></TABLE>

no, i couldnt start it up, i had broken valves in my head. my pistons has some scratches that i dremeled smooth. thats it.

sam

tuan... 11-04-2003 05:16 AM

yea, air is coming out both ways, feels like im misfiring. an di hear i hissing noise from the intake manifold..

1hotintegra 11-04-2003 05:43 AM

Re: (h22poweredgsr)
 
DONT DRIVE IT UNLESS U HAVE TO

tuan... 11-04-2003 05:51 PM

where on c-speedracing do i go to find the removal of the head??its not in the "how to" section..

Mr. Softee 11-04-2003 06:00 PM

Re: (h22poweredgsr)
 
i will tell you how to rmove the head:

set motor at tdc (not required)
take intake off
take exhaust manifold off
take off all sensors from head, intakake manifold, distibutor
take off all coolant hoses
take off valve cover
take off cam caps or whatever is on them based on your head
take out cams
take timing belt off cams.
undo head studs in right order. use a LONG bar. (find a diagram somewhere)
take head off

takes no more than 90 minutes with two people who want to get it done


tuan... 11-04-2003 06:20 PM

jeez, sounds good. what a tq specs on an h22?

Mr. Softee 11-04-2003 07:34 PM

Re: (h22poweredgsr)
 
get a manual

patdemps 11-04-2003 07:48 PM

Re: (94goldjungsr)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 94goldjungsr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i will tell you how to rmove the head:

set motor at tdc (not required)
take intake off
take exhaust manifold off
take off all sensors from head, intakake manifold, distibutor
take off all coolant hoses
take off valve cover
take off cam caps or whatever is on them based on your head
take out cams
take timing belt off cams.
undo head studs in right order. use a LONG bar. (find a diagram somewhere)
take head off

takes no more than 90 minutes with two people who want to get it done

</TD></TR></TABLE>

great information https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif

definately hook yourself up with a manuel. you'll need it down the road aswell.

tuan... 11-05-2003 04:15 PM

how much is labor on install a valvetrain nowadays? or should i do it myself?

Mr. Softee 11-05-2003 06:59 PM

Re: (h22poweredgsr)
 
take the head off first. its a pain to do but worth the savings in $
sam


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