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civicguy 04-20-2003 03:35 PM

where to get ngk 1 or 2 step colder spark plugs?
 
im almost finish with my turbo and would like to get some information or recomendation about what type of spark plugs to get and where to get them

B18EG6 04-20-2003 04:08 PM

Re: where to get ngk 1 or 2 step colder spark plugs? (civicguy)
 
summitracing.com

ngk-6097

98civicEX 04-20-2003 04:47 PM

Re: where to get ngk 1 or 2 step colder spark plugs? (civicguy)
 
http://www.sprakplugs.com , i belive discount auto now sells NGK as well.

turbod16y8 04-20-2003 06:45 PM

Re: where to get ngk 1 or 2 step colder spark plugs? (98civicEX)
 
auto zone has them...... or advance auto parts

twkdCD595 04-20-2003 09:27 PM

Re: where to get ngk 1 or 2 step colder spark plugs? (turbod16y8)
 
local auto parts stores usually have a couple different heat ranges in stock... however they only list what the recommended factory heat range is of the vehicle you tell them... so they will not know what your talking about as most workers are ignorant of such facts.

most the time you can just ask them to look up the ngk part # for the plug to see if they stock them... without having some turd tell you "thats not what the computer says". https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...s/emsmilep.gif

Nextelbuddy 09-17-2003 12:10 PM

Re: where to get ngk 1 or 2 step colder spark plugs? (twkdCD595)
 
does any one know the part number of the ngk spark plug that is one step colder than the stock honda plugs? also do they come pre gapped?

Mr. Softee 09-17-2003 12:11 PM

Re: where to get ngk 1 or 2 step colder spark plugs? (nextelbuddy)
 
bkr7e's are the ones most poeple use. i use something similar tot hat from ngk r and have used those ones before with no problems

sam

Nextelbuddy 09-17-2003 12:14 PM

Re: where to get ngk 1 or 2 step colder spark plugs? (94goldjungsr)
 
do they come pre gapped? also can i just take that part number to say auto zone or do they not stock them?

Mr. Softee 09-17-2003 12:15 PM

Re: where to get ngk 1 or 2 step colder spark plugs? (nextelbuddy)
 
they dont have them at autozone near me. and yes they are pregapped but you should check them anyway to make sure they didnt get ungapped in shipping

sam

LshatchTurbo 09-17-2003 12:28 PM

Re: where to get ngk 1 or 2 step colder spark plugs? (94goldjungsr)
 
My car loves the NGK 3330 plugs. This is the BCPR7ES, 2 step colder, .032 pregapped plug. I get them from advanced/discount auto parts all the time. Just tell them u need the NGK 3330. Sometimes they have them, sometimes they dont, just depends on your store. But these plugs work fantastic for me, and I sure you would have great results as well, and best of all there very cheap. https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif

Nextelbuddy 09-17-2003 12:33 PM

Re: where to get ngk 1 or 2 step colder spark plugs? (lshatchturbo)
 
will i notice any power loss through spark on 5 psi.

Mr. Softee 09-17-2003 12:34 PM

Re: where to get ngk 1 or 2 step colder spark plugs? (nextelbuddy)
 
i was using some generic spark plugs with only 3k miles on them and my car would not even go through the RPMs in boost.

paulzy 09-17-2003 12:40 PM

Re: where to get ngk 1 or 2 step colder spark plugs? (lshatchturbo)
 
those are the ones I ran when I was on the bottle. you can get the 3330 or the 2023(which are the bkre7's)

Nextelbuddy 09-17-2003 12:42 PM

Re: where to get ngk 1 or 2 step colder spark plugs? (Paul_Vang)
 
so if i get the NGK 3330 plugs they are 1 step colder? and they will be fine on my motor with only 5 psi?

Mr. Softee 09-17-2003 12:47 PM

Re: where to get ngk 1 or 2 step colder spark plugs? (nextelbuddy)
 
they're fine man.

Nextelbuddy 09-17-2003 01:14 PM

Re: where to get ngk 1 or 2 step colder spark plugs? (94goldjungsr)
 
thanx for all your help but i really wanted to know if the ngk 3330 were 1 step colder or 2? i dont want 2 step i only want one.

Mr. Softee 09-17-2003 01:15 PM

Re: where to get ngk 1 or 2 step colder spark plugs? (nextelbuddy)
 
if you want an immediate answer, i believe they are 2 step but i am not sure on that. call up sparkplugs.com they will definitely answer you with a solid response.

sam

Nextelbuddy 09-27-2003 11:04 AM

Re: where to get ngk 1 or 2 step colder spark plugs? (94goldjungsr)
 
well i went to napa and they pulled up the ngk BKR6E-11 for the stock replacment plug for 1.8 DOHC vtec motor. so i asked for 1 step colder and he gave me BKR5E-11. i told him i was looking for BKR7E-11 and he said that was 1 step hotter. i see so many mixed responses on here. so whats the deal are the BKR5E-11 hotter or colder?

ladysman 09-27-2003 12:06 PM

Re: where to get ngk 1 or 2 step colder spark plugs? (nextelbuddy)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nextelbuddy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well i went to napa and they pulled up the ngk BKR6E-11 for the stock replacment plug for 1.8 DOHC vtec motor. so i asked for 1 step colder and he gave me BKR5E-11. i told him i was looking for BKR7E-11 and he said that was 1 step hotter. i see so many mixed responses on here. so whats the deal are the BKR5E-11 hotter or colder?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Larger the number = colder the plug.

Directly from NGK's site.
http://www.ngksparkplugs.com/images/...ngflowpath.gif

7's are what you want.

boosted hybrid 09-27-2003 12:46 PM

Re: where to get ngk 1 or 2 step colder spark plugs? (ladysman)
 
Just to add to ladysman post:

6's: 300-350whp level
7's: 350whp-450whp level
8's: 450whp-600whp level

I pretty much use the 7's in everything i tune and run, which is overkill. You'll get better gas mileage and partial throttle response with a hotter plug since it combusts the mixture greater.

Sinner 09-27-2003 12:50 PM

Re: where to get ngk 1 or 2 step colder spark plugs? (nextelbuddy)
 
I think domestic sparkplugs are the opisite of honda plugs... going up is cooler in a honda and going up in a domestic is hotter. I could be wrong but that is what I was told at a autozone... you never know what you get at those places.

Nick

Charlie Moua 10-10-2003 09:21 AM

Re: where to get ngk 1 or 2 step colder spark plugs? (Sinner)
 
now which one is it?

B18c1 for 200-300whp appilcations? NGK part number?

ladysman 10-10-2003 09:24 AM

Re: where to get ngk 1 or 2 step colder spark plugs? (Charlie Moua)
 
bkr7e's

I think 1283 is the part #

PrecisionH23a 10-10-2003 09:29 AM

Re: where to get ngk 1 or 2 step colder spark plugs? (lshatchturbo)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by lshatchturbo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My car loves the NGK 3330 plugs. This is the BCPR7ES, 2 step colder, .032 pregapped plug. I get them from advanced/discount auto parts all the time. Just tell them u need the NGK 3330. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Agreed. They actually have a shorter insulator tip compared to the bkr7e's that i used to run. The shorter insulator tip the better, the further the tip sits into the combustion chamber the more heat it is exposed to... which can lead to guess what? I learned that from my tuner on my last trip to the dyno.

1SlowSi 11-09-2004 02:03 AM

Re: where to get ngk 1 or 2 step colder spark plugs? (PrecisionH23a)
 
Bringing this one back up. I see the debate between the two spark plugs.

BKR7e and BCP7e's. Is it 7e or 7es... and i saw a post that said to get plugs without the -11 at the end? whats the difference? As far as gapping goes, i see most run a .030 gap. Is there like a certain gap for an X amount of power? im gonna be running around 300whp. what gap for that?

With a lower number like .026 that would be making the gap smaller corret? for more power? im dumb and new at this.


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