Is it worth to do a H Series swap?
Hey guys is it worth to do a H series swap? For $1000 I can get a 94 h22a2 vtec compete head with intake fuel rail & injectors & TB, 97 h23a3 complete block 0 miles on rebuild, 94 h22a2 5 speed no pops or grinds. Comes with axles half shaft p/s pump & bracket new clutch kit & flywheel resistor block and mounts etc all I need is harness & ecu. Is it worth the swap and price?
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Re: Is it worth to do a H Series swap?
Define worth it.
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Re: Is it worth to do a H Series swap?
Only "worth it" if you were to go h2b...otherwise no
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Totally worth the swap. Its like a poor mans K swap. Depending on what you put it in, You will be compleetly satisfied with the results. I've got a JDM H22A and the LSD transmission in my CX Hatch. And if I wasnt shooting for 12's then it would be all the power I'd ever need.
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Ditto the H2B route. A lot of hassle to do. Renders the chassis nearly useless to swap anything else in later. If you've ever driven an H-series powered car you'd jump on it.
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If those are swap mounts and axles yeah, worth it I'd say.
There was never really anything wrong with a straight H22 swap other than everyone broke axles before the aftermarket came up with mounts that put the engine in a more favorable position, it's still not perfect, and if you're very low you're still going to have axle issues, but at that price point it's a good deal. |
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I just wouldn't relish the cutting you have to do in cabin for the shifter.
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H2b or go K series IMO.
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this is my first honda so i dont know much about them, im guessing a h2b is a h22 with a b series trans cause i doesnt look like you guys favor h series trans.
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Sell me the swap
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Re: Is it worth to do a H Series swap?
Originally Posted by driftguy2008
(Post 48505641)
im guessing a h2b is a h22 with a b series trans
Originally Posted by driftguy2008
(Post 48505641)
cause i doesnt look like you guys favor h series trans.
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im just looking for cheap fun, the h series trans should work for now or should i save and get a b series trans plus adapter etc?
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Originally Posted by driftguy2008
(Post 48505696)
im just looking for cheap fun, the h series trans should work for now or should i save and get a b series trans plus adapter etc?
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I've been thinking about a H22 swap with an intercooled turbo, build the bottom end and run like 10-15PSI, though it doesn't seem anyone managed to keep the AC compressor and condenser doing this... Love my AC :(
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Originally Posted by H22AHatchBack
(Post 48504295)
Totally worth the swap. Its like a poor mans K swap. Depending on what you put it in, You will be compleetly satisfied with the results. I've got a JDM H22A and the LSD transmission in my CX Hatch. And if I wasnt shooting for 12's then it would be all the power I'd ever need.
Originally Posted by Brettboat
(Post 48505891)
I've been thinking about a H22 swap with an intercooled turbo, build the bottom end and run like 10-15PSI, though it doesn't seem anyone managed to keep the AC compressor and condenser doing this... Love my AC :(
OP i would try to steer clear of the cable tranny's like the other members said on here tho. The shifter in H22AHatchback's car acts a little funny somtimes. And i don't think you can use the console if you do that. |
Re: Is it worth to do a H Series swap?
Originally Posted by EGxBoostFiend
(Post 48506298)
H-series is a high compression engine, you really need to do quite as bit to them to run any boost reliably. I've never actually seen a Turbo H in person.
Originally Posted by EGxBoostFiend
(Post 48506298)
OP i would try to steer clear of the cable tranny's like the other members said on here tho. The shifter in H22AHatchback's car acts a little funny somtimes. And i don't think you can use the console if you do that.
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if your thinking about going H
check out these mounts from explicit speed performance i did a lot of research before purchasing a set for my self. i do like hasport mounts but for H swap hasport mounts locate the engine too far forward causing axle binding issues. especially when your lowered. there are actually several versions of the hasport mounts. the latest version moved the engine more to the passenger side to allow ps also making it necessary to purchase hasport axles. |
Re: Is it worth to do a H Series swap?
Originally Posted by EGxBoostFiend
(Post 48506298)
H-series is a high compression engine, you really need to do quite as bit to them to run any boost reliably. I've never actually seen a Turbo H in person.
You can turbo a high compression engine as it is... It's just not ideal! |
Re: Is it worth to do a H Series swap?
For what it is worth... both K-tuned and Hybrid offer a bolt-in under tunnel shifter assembly that will work with an H22 transmission (you will need RSX cables and an adapter bracket at the trans end), and this eliminates the need to modify the shifter tunnel.
Cutting the right side mount horns can be reversed relatively easily if necessary... the bracket can be bought from Honda new for less than $50 if my memory recalls, and a smattering of paint makes it look stock again. Another thought: the next step up from an H22 is a K-Series swap, which also requires the removal of the right side engine bracket. I have driven an H22 powered 1995 civic DX coupe almost daily since 2002. It has a cable transmission and shifts like butter using a Place Racing under-mount shift box. All motor, 229 WHP, 12.90's @ 105 in the 1/4 mile, 33 mpg on the highway... full interior. The only thing missing is A/C. My 2 cents is to get some Hasport mounts and axles and enjoy it... you are in it really cheap at this point. You won't be sorry. The H22 has never received the respect it deserves. |
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What JRCivic1 said. The H22 Isnt well recconized in the Honda comunity outside of a prelude. Because your just starting with Hondas keep your swap simple and Just focus on gettng it in.
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There's one big disadvantage to the H block no one has mentioned yet. FRM sleeves. They require specially made pistons, and if you ever want to sleeve the block (Darton, AEBS, whatever) you'll need to find a specialized machine shop that carries the correct drill press bit to cut FRM sleeves, and they'll charge you out the ass for it, because that bit isn't cheap.
If it were my car, I would sell the H swap, and use that money on a (much easier, with more potential for less cost) B swap. |
Re: Is it worth to do a H Series swap?
Originally Posted by Brettboat
(Post 48507038)
Most Honda engines are high compression... There are ways to drop compression... Shorter rods and the like. Not sure why some people are afraid to rip an engine down and build it up how you want/need it.
You can turbo a high compression engine as it is... It's just not ideal! I haven't seen any aftermarket companies that sell different length rods.. You lost me there. Manley, Brian Crowler, and Carrillo all say there H22 rods are 5.636" Eagles rods are advertised at 5.63" I would just change the pistons if i was trying to lower compression.. Yes you can bolt a turbo kit on to them an run for a given amount of time. But I said reliably.. |
Re: Is it worth to do a H Series swap?
I was just giving an example, I haven't looked into it myself.
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If you go H and plan on boosting also plan on sleeving it. If you plan on leaving it stock then no issues.
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Re: Is it worth to do a H Series swap?
Originally Posted by driftguy2008
(Post 48504228)
Hey guys is it worth to do a H series swap? For $1000 I can get a 94 h22a2 vtec compete head with intake fuel rail & injectors & TB, 97 h23a3 complete block 0 miles on rebuild, 94 h22a2 5 speed no pops or grinds. Comes with axles half shaft p/s pump & bracket new clutch kit & flywheel resistor block and mounts etc all I need is harness & ecu. Is it worth the swap and price?
there are 3 different type of sleeves the least expensive is a steel liner that can be installed in place of the frm the frm is fiber reinforced material which is actually very strong but cannot be honed like a normal iron cylinder. |
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