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kiss_my_ss 01-24-2013 11:44 AM

Which wastegate....tial, precision, or turbosmart???
 
Looking for a wastegate flanged for a 38mm. Is any one any better than the other? Turbosmart seems to only come with a 7psi spring which is wayyy too little....so i dont like that i will have to spend extra money on springs with it.

Yes i did a search and didnt find what i was looking for.

skateboard_ej8 01-24-2013 11:55 AM

Re: Which wastegate....tial, precision, or turbosmart???
 
You didnt look hard enough. What exactly are you looking for that you didnt find?

Just cough up the money and get a tial wastegate. They have been proven to work time after time.


wantboost 01-24-2013 12:02 PM

Re: Which wastegate....tial, precision, or turbosmart???
 
Precision = hell no

The other two are perfectly fine choices

wantboost 01-24-2013 12:05 PM

Re: Which wastegate....tial, precision, or turbosmart???
 
And that video was a knockoff that failed... the point of posting it?

kiss_my_ss 01-24-2013 12:06 PM

Re: Which wastegate....tial, precision, or turbosmart???
 

Originally Posted by esco562 (Post 48376755)
You didnt look hard enough. What exactly are you looking for that you didnt find?

Just cough up the money and get a tial wastegate. They have been proven to work time after time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlpuTHlIkKQ

I didnt search youtube jackass. I searched the forum. And they all are within like $20 in price so thats not really the issue here.

kiss_my_ss 01-24-2013 12:09 PM

Re: Which wastegate....tial, precision, or turbosmart???
 

Originally Posted by wantboost (Post 48376783)
Precision = hell no

The other two are perfectly fine choices

Personal experience? Or you know of failures? If you would provide me with details or an explanation why that would be great

rich7777 01-24-2013 12:13 PM

Re: Which wastegate....tial, precision, or turbosmart???
 
I like Tial myself. You know for a fact you can count on them.

cleansleeper 01-24-2013 12:13 PM

Re: Which wastegate....tial, precision, or turbosmart???
 
Go with Tail or Turbosmart. Both are considered of equal quality so it'll come down to maybe even which one you think looks nicer?

Tial is my preference.

TurbosmartTech 01-24-2013 12:15 PM

Re: Which wastegate....tial, precision, or turbosmart???
 
Our 38mm gate (UltraGate) is available 3-26PSI, actually. There are some key differences, and I'd be happy to go over them with you, but in an attempt to not violate forum rules - feel free to call me any time at 909-476-2570.

Kirstin
sales@turbosmartusa.com
Sales/Tech
Turbosmart USA

kiss_my_ss 01-24-2013 12:27 PM

Re: Which wastegate....tial, precision, or turbosmart???
 
Oh i was just talking to a friend who has the same manifold as mine and is running a turbosmart 38mm. He said he sometimes experiences minor boost creep. He said he should have gone with a 44mm. I wonder if it may be the boost controller causing the creep not the wg. He is running a pte5857 as high as 30psi and i will be running something similar in size but not quite as high of psi. I will be at <25psi until i build the block then i will likely turn it up or upgrade to a larger turbo

TiAL 01-24-2013 12:34 PM

Re: Which wastegate....tial, precision, or turbosmart???
 
I'm just going to keep quiet on this one lol

wantboost 01-24-2013 12:34 PM

Re: Which wastegate....tial, precision, or turbosmart???
 
I've seen the cyclic test... precision failed quickly and early. Turbosmart and TiAL performed well. I normally run TiAL

wantboost 01-24-2013 12:41 PM

Re: Which wastegate....tial, precision, or turbosmart???
 

Originally Posted by TiAL (Post 48376934)
I'm just going to keep quiet on this one lol

I see what you did there ;)

TiAL 01-24-2013 12:50 PM

Re: Which wastegate....tial, precision, or turbosmart???
 
and how come no one mentioned a synapse?

TheShodan 01-24-2013 12:54 PM

Re: Which wastegate....tial, precision, or turbosmart???
 

Originally Posted by TiAL (Post 48376996)
and how come no one mentioned a synapse?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...kgiddiness.gif

wantboost 01-24-2013 12:58 PM

Re: Which wastegate....tial, precision, or turbosmart???
 
I think people forgot about them

rich7777 01-24-2013 01:02 PM

Re: Which wastegate....tial, precision, or turbosmart???
 
"Doing R&D so other companies don't have to since 1994"

Funny....

TheShodan 01-24-2013 01:03 PM

Re: Which wastegate....tial, precision, or turbosmart???
 

Originally Posted by wantboost (Post 48376958)
I see what you did there ;)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...CTakeaseat.jpg

CUZ

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...DisgonBgud.gif

kiss_my_ss 01-24-2013 01:06 PM

Re: Which wastegate....tial, precision, or turbosmart???
 

Originally Posted by wantboost (Post 48376936)
I've seen the cyclic test... precision failed quickly and early. Turbosmart and TiAL performed well. I normally run TiAL

Ok. Thanks.


Originally Posted by TiAL (Post 48376996)
and how come no one mentioned a synapse?

Are you recommending them??? Lol.

Anyone want to give there $.02 on synapse among this group???

TiAL 01-24-2013 01:10 PM

Re: Which wastegate....tial, precision, or turbosmart???
 

Originally Posted by kiss_my_ss (Post 48377065)
Ok. Thanks.



Are you recommending them??? Lol.

Anyone want to give there $.02 on synapse among this group???

do you value your engine in any way shape or form?

Schister66 01-24-2013 01:18 PM

Re: Which wastegate....tial, precision, or turbosmart???
 
Tial is the benchmark in the industry. Everything else is second-best

kiss_my_ss 01-24-2013 01:36 PM

Re: Which wastegate....tial, precision, or turbosmart???
 

Originally Posted by TiAL (Post 48377087)
do you value your engine in any way shape or form?

So they are that bad?? I have never read any debates on the issue so i thought i would bring it up. I just want what most everyone wants....the best product for the application. And as for 38mm gates...they all roughly cost the same....i mean 240-270 is about what i found. The price difference between any one if them is not the issue. The quality of the product is. Now if i were to find a genuine tial for 100 less than anything else that would probably make my mind up for me...or vice versa with the turbosmart. But i really want to know what to definitely stay away from.

wantboost 01-24-2013 01:45 PM

Re: Which wastegate....tial, precision, or turbosmart???
 
I'll sell you a 38mm TiAL that needs a new diaphragm cheap (50 bucks from TiAL)

A BeastyDC4 01-24-2013 01:48 PM

Re: Which wastegate....tial, precision, or turbosmart???
 
it seems as if everyone as stated that they prefer the tial. im going to have to agree. i have always used tials. never had one fail.

kiss_my_ss 01-24-2013 02:47 PM

Re: Which wastegate....tial, precision, or turbosmart???
 

Originally Posted by wantboost (Post 48377238)
I'll sell you a 38mm TiAL that needs a new diaphragm cheap (50 bucks from TiAL)

Pm me info. What springs too?


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