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Max[RUS] 12-27-2011 10:36 AM

Blockblade SPOON
 
http://i.drom.ru/foto/album_photos/17/16726/164935.jpg
what you say about this improvement SPOON, then that picture on the left?


I'm sorry for the correct spelling of the text as the translation is by GOOGLE ...

crazydominicanman 12-27-2011 10:40 AM

Re: power of main bearings SPOON
 
I see a Spoon sports block brace.

Max[RUS] 12-27-2011 10:46 AM

Re: power of main bearings SPOON
 

Originally Posted by crazydominicanman (Post 46580970)
I see a Spoon sports block brace.

Yes!

cibao2ner 12-27-2011 10:50 AM

Re: power of main bearings SPOON
 
i dont think they sell those to the public.....they rev the b16b to 11k with those..

Max[RUS] 12-27-2011 11:01 AM

Re: power of main bearings SPOON
 
Interest is justified if this device they hope? ... Why he did not go into society? And if it increases significantly the strength of the block?

TheShodan 12-27-2011 11:39 AM

Re: power of main bearings SPOON
 
There is reinforcement of the block with that device.

See if you can type in english without Babelfish, please. its very, very confusing.

todahead 12-27-2011 11:50 AM

Re: power of main bearings SPOON
 
it's pointless on an engine that only mods are intake header & exhaust to rev 11.000rpms
you need a lot modifications to rev past 9500rpms and average oversea spoon customer is satisfied with their reservoir socks and carbon elbow intake bling bling parts they sell ...
so been such a special part they could sell it as spoon let me guess hmm 10.000 $ ?

Max[RUS] 12-27-2011 11:54 AM

Re: power of main bearings SPOON
 

Originally Posted by TheShodan (Post 46581313)
There is reinforcement of the block with that device.

such as what?

Originally Posted by TheShodan (Post 46581313)
See if you can type in english without Babelfish, please. its very, very confusing.

trying to speak intelligible as possible (((

Max[RUS] 12-27-2011 12:06 PM

Re: power of main bearings SPOON
 
They determine the price and not to us, even the $ 10,000 it would cost, who needs that would have bought ... but I am interested in the technical aspect , if install such a tuning that it will give me?

crazydominicanman 12-27-2011 12:24 PM

Re: power of main bearings SPOON
 
It acts as a non factory girdle almost to my best belief

Max[RUS] 12-27-2011 12:29 PM

Re: power of main bearings SPOON
 

Originally Posted by crazydominicanman (Post 46581568)
It acts as a non factory girdle almost to my best belief

Increases confidence in the engines?)

Uncle Dave 12-27-2011 01:49 PM

Re: power of main bearings SPOON
 
Its called a Blockblade if my memory serves me correctly and is only available when you purchase the whole engine from Spoon Sports.

https://honda-tech.com/forums/all-motor-naturally-aspirated-44/spoon-block-blade-function-7-5-cap-block-girdle-2487161/ someone else asked a while ago

hondasdohc 12-27-2011 01:51 PM

Re: power of main bearings SPOON
 
Well that girdle is what keeps the motor revving happily to 10-11k.

crazydominicanman 12-27-2011 02:39 PM

Re: power of main bearings SPOON
 
^ Go ahead and put in an oem girdle in your stock block and take it to 10k and call me! lol!

PyroProblem 12-27-2011 02:49 PM

Re: power of main bearings SPOON
 
theres a video on youtube with that brace installed in a b16b. they make a big deal about it making it seem like that was the only reason they could rev higher, but personally I think it's overrated.

hondasdohc 12-27-2011 03:29 PM

Re: power of main bearings SPOON
 
Well it keeps the bearings sturdy because it's a full cap not the three cap bull. My f20b had a full sturdy cap and that thing will rev to 9k like nothing it does help did that constantly for three years and it held. Also the rods/stroke ratio has less side wall load the piston/block it barely moves up and down (3.0) inches for b16b which takes those revs.

Max[RUS] 12-28-2011 06:54 AM

Re: power of main bearings SPOON
 
Spec list the block will be based on increasing Rod / stroke ratio to 1.85, Stroke 81mm., Bore 85 mm., Redline 11k achieved all this bude increase in height of the block. Therefore, to achieve the 11k I want to personally make and install custom Blockblade.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9VFEeA6z1U
video seen but due to no knowledge of language can only understand gestures:(
And anyone else engaged the calculation of its impact on block and production?=)

josephcmiller2 12-28-2011 08:23 AM

Re: power of main bearings SPOON
 
It is not the SPOON that bends, it is only your mind.

rich7777 12-28-2011 09:10 AM

Re: power of main bearings SPOON
 
Screw spoon, i know a company called "fork" that offers a even better block brace.... You can also use it to eat rice with if you can't use chop sticks.

BryanM. 12-28-2011 10:26 AM

Re: power of main bearings SPOON
 
Confusing thread is confusing.

I think my sig quote is pertinent to this conversation.




Max[RUS] 12-28-2011 10:42 AM

Re: power of main bearings SPOON
 

Originally Posted by rich7777 (Post 46585644)
Screw spoon, i know a company called "fork" that offers a even better block brace.... You can also use it to eat rice with if you can't use chop sticks.

Рlease give URL.

BryanM. 12-28-2011 10:52 AM

Re: power of main bearings SPOON
 

Originally Posted by Max[RUS] (Post 46586143)
Рlease give URL.

He's joking.

Forget the Spoon blade, look at this about half way down the page:

http://www.erlperformance.com/produc...formance-parts


http://www.erlperformance.com/compon...jdbg0004_1.jpg




josephcmiller2 12-28-2011 10:54 AM

Re: power of main bearings SPOON
 
Max[RUS], we are telling you. If you want SPOON, call SPOON. If you do not call SPOON then do not ask us for help. Research 11,000 RPM motors. Use B18C5 or B18C1 girdle. You must make this engine. We cannot make this engine for you.

I hope this message is OK through the translator.

Max[RUS] 12-28-2011 11:27 AM

Re: power of main bearings SPOON
 

Originally Posted by mcvtec (Post 46586196)
He's joking.

Forget the Spoon blade, look at this about half way down the page:

http://www.erlperformance.com/produc...formance-parts


http://www.erlperformance.com/compon...jdbg0004_1.jpg




Thank you very much!
think about this option, since it even easier to implement but I find it a less attractive




Originally Posted by josephcmiller2 (Post 46586210)
Max[RUS], we are telling you. If you want SPOON, call SPOON. If you do not call SPOON then do not ask us for help. Research 11,000 RPM motors. Use B18C5 or B18C1 girdle. You must make this engine. We cannot make this engine for you.

I hope this message is OK through the translator.



Perfectly understand you, but you understand me because I'm an engineer I want to fully understand how to make and whether it will be worth the effort I spend on it and it might cost to put one block blade that shows the post above ...

josephcmiller2 12-28-2011 11:37 AM

Re: power of main bearings SPOON
 

Originally Posted by Max[RUS] (Post 46586424)
Perfectly understand you, but you understand me because I'm an engineer I want to fully understand how to make and whether it will be worth the effort I spend on it and it might cost to put one block blade that shows the post above ...

Engineer is not necessary. You are building a unique engine. Experience is necessary. You can obtain experience from testing. You can obtain experience from people who build 11,000 RPM motors.

11,000 RPM motor is not normal. Normal engineering does not work. You can not know that 11,000 RPMs will make the parts resonate and vibrate. Only experience tells you how 11,000 RPMs affects the motor.


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