96 f22b2 Engine turns over but won't start???any help please!!!
Ok so I just got this car...had a BHG and needed back brakes and a clutch. After many estimates at various auto repair shops i decided to take this project on myself :scared: having some help from a friend :thumbup:
1. dropped the engine out of the car 2. remove the transmission and install new cluch =) 3. remove exhaust and intake man...took most of this apart and cleaned it :scared: 4. remove head and gasket, cean and hone block :scared: 5. install new head w/ new bolts 6. intall new water pump and timing belts 7. adjust valves 8. new fuel filter, oil filter 8. new plug wires 10. new brake shoes 11. bleed clutch and brakes yes ive been working on this every day for the last 12 days straight :thud: 10. Engine back into the car...put every thing back together turn the key and it turns over but is not starting :hammer: 1. have spark 2. tried engine starting fluid and nothing 3. no coolant in the car :scared: i feel like it could be so many things i dont even know where to start :cry: |
Re: 96 f22b2 Engine turns over but won't start???any help please!!!
Check the grounds.
Does the Check Engine Light come on for 2 seconds and then shut off when you try to start the car or does it not even come on? If it doesn't even come on, this may indicate a ground issue. |
Re: 96 f22b2 Engine turns over but won't start???any help please!!!
yes CEL comes on for a couple seconds then goes out
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Re: 96 f22b2 Engine turns over but won't start???any help please!!!
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Check this ground in particular.
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Re: 96 f22b2 Engine turns over but won't start???any help please!!!
it is there but in between a bracket...hard to explain but that ground is attatched also with another thing that holds some wires or maybe a hose?
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Re: 96 f22b2 Engine turns over but won't start???any help please!!!
http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com/...=THROTTLE+BODY
# 17 is also bolted here...could this be the problem? |
Re: 96 f22b2 Engine turns over but won't start???any help please!!!
Originally Posted by newhondagirl
(Post 46035759)
it is there but in between a bracket...hard to explain but that ground is attatched also with another thing that holds some wires or maybe a hose?
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Re: 96 f22b2 Engine turns over but won't start???any help please!!!
I am not 100% sure on the timing, all the marks line up but not sure if i did the tensioning correct... this is all a first for me :scared: also i could smell fuel coming from the cylinders when i turnded it over w/out the spark plugs...will check the other things tomorrow (have to go buy a compression tester) how do i check fuel pressure?? all connections are good as far as i see and feel i spent over an hour just stairing and feeling all over :o
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Re: 96 f22b2 Engine turns over but won't start???any help please!!!
Originally Posted by newhondagirl
(Post 46035807)
I am not 100% sure on the timing, all the marks line up but not sure if i did the tensioning correct... this is all a first for me :scared: also i could smell fuel coming from the cylinders when i turnded it over w/out the spark plugs...will check the other things tomorrow (have to go buy a compression tester) how do i check fuel pressure?? all connections are good as far as i see and feel i spent over an hour just stairing and feeling all over :o
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Re: 96 f22b2 Engine turns over but won't start???any help please!!!
could i check for trouble codes or does the CEL need to be on?
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Re: 96 f22b2 Engine turns over but won't start???any help please!!!
Originally Posted by newhondagirl
(Post 46035822)
could i check for trouble codes or does the CEL need to be on?
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Re: 96 f22b2 Engine turns over but won't start???any help please!!!
Line up the marks on the t-belt #1 at TDC. Be sure the dist rotor is pointing to #1 wire....and that it is going to #1 cyl (1-3-4-2). Just want to be sure the wires are on correctly.
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Re: 96 f22b2 Engine turns over but won't start???any help please!!!
Originally Posted by jdmcertified909
(Post 46035821)
If your getting fuel I wouldnt worry about pressure. So you have spark n fuel should start. Sounds more like a loose or a connection broke somewhere. Was the harness carefully tucked before removing engine? No connections got pulled during engine removal? Does it sound like it wants to start? Did the car run when you baught it?
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Re: 96 f22b2 Engine turns over but won't start???any help please!!!
Originally Posted by newhondagirl
(Post 46036583)
it acts like im out of fuel but there is plenty in the tank
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Re: 96 f22b2 Engine turns over but won't start???any help please!!!
Originally Posted by Lost Again
(Post 46036652)
Ok, have you sprayed carb/tb cleaner into the TB-open buttery fly and give it a shot or two, then crank?
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Re: 96 f22b2 Engine turns over but won't start???any help please!!!
Originally Posted by jdmcertified909
(Post 46036981)
Cant remember if its honda obdII that has a prevention system for a temp sensor not working=no start? Or is it another make im thinking about?
are you talking about #22 air temp sensor??? i did not remove this when i cleaned the intake...would the air intake claner damage it? |
Re: 96 f22b2 Engine turns over but won't start???any help please!!!
Originally Posted by newhondagirl
(Post 46037746)
http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com/...=THROTTLE+BODY
are you talking about #22 air temp sensor??? i did not remove this when i cleaned the intake...would the air intake claner damage it? |
Re: 96 f22b2 Engine turns over but won't start???any help please!!!
Originally Posted by newhondagirl
(Post 46037933)
how do i check this sesor???
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Re: 96 f22b2 Engine turns over but won't start???any help please!!!
Temp sensor will not cause a no start issue, don't even bother wasting your time checking that.
Did you check compression yet? What were the results? Are you getting spark from all four spark plug wires or just one? Are the spark plug wires on in the correct order? Are you getting fuel pressure to the fuel rail and/or filter? If you're getting fuel pressure, grab an injector node tester and see if your injectors are being commanded on. If you don't have a node tester, then pull the entire fuel rail off and have someone else crank the car over while you look to see if the injectors are spraying. Those are pretty much the basics you need to check first before doing anything else. |
Re: 96 f22b2 Engine turns over but won't start???any help please!!!
Originally Posted by slomofo
(Post 46040233)
Temp sensor will not cause a no start issue, don't even bother wasting your time checking that.
Did you check compression yet? What were the results? Are you getting spark from all four spark plug wires or just one? Are the spark plug wires on in the correct order? Are you getting fuel pressure to the fuel rail and/or filter? If you're getting fuel pressure, grab an injector node tester and see if your injectors are being commanded on. If you don't have a node tester, then pull the entire fuel rail off and have someone else crank the car over while you look to see if the injectors are spraying. Those are pretty much the basics you need to check first before doing anything else. |
Re: 96 f22b2 Engine turns over but won't start???any help please!!!
Originally Posted by newhondagirl
(Post 46037933)
how do i check this sesor???
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Re: 96 f22b2 Engine turns over but won't start???any help please!!!
Ok so here i am back at square one! :hammer:
today i re-did the valves and fixed the plug wires (were wrong) and she started right up!!! :thumbup: then....i filled the cooling system with water so i could do a fulsh....started the car and OMG!!! a GIESER of water is shooting out of the radiator!!!! and now i have steam and water coming out of the exhaust. THE PROBLEM IS WORSE! TELL ME WHAT I DID WRONG??? :hugs: |
Re: 96 f22b2 Engine turns over but won't start???any help please!!!
Originally Posted by newhondagirl
(Post 46035670)
Ok so I just got this car...had a BHG and needed back brakes and a clutch. After many estimates at various auto repair shops i decided to take this project on myself :scared: having some help from a friend :thumbup:
1. dropped the engine out of the car 2. remove the transmission and install new cluch =) 3. remove exhaust and intake man...took most of this apart and cleaned it :scared: 4. remove head and gasket, cean and hone block :scared: 5. install new head w/ new bolts 6. intall new water pump and timing belts 7. adjust valves 8. new fuel filter, oil filter 8. new plug wires 10. new brake shoes 11. bleed clutch and brakes yes ive been working on this every day for the last 12 days straight :thud: 10. Engine back into the car...put every thing back together |
Re: 96 f22b2 Engine turns over but won't start???any help please!!!
Originally Posted by newhondagirl
(Post 46044590)
Ok so here i am back at square one! :hammer:
today i re-did the valves and fixed the plug wires (were wrong) and she started right up!!! :thumbup: then....i filled the cooling system with water so i could do a fulsh....started the car and OMG!!! a GIESER of water is shooting out of the radiator!!!! and now i have steam and water coming out of the exhaust. THE PROBLEM IS WORSE! TELL ME WHAT I DID WRONG??? :hugs: |
Re: 96 f22b2 Engine turns over but won't start???any help please!!!
Originally Posted by newhondagirl
(Post 46044590)
Ok so here i am back at square one! :hammer:
today i re-did the valves and fixed the plug wires (were wrong) and she started right up!!! :thumbup: then....i filled the cooling system with water so i could do a fulsh....started the car and OMG!!! a GIESER of water is shooting out of the radiator!!!! and now i have steam and water coming out of the exhaust. THE PROBLEM IS WORSE! TELL ME WHAT I DID WRONG??? :hugs: Do a leakdown test before anything else. It's better to rent the tool from autozone instead of buying it like you did with the compression tester. If you don't have an air compressor, it might be worth it to run down to a mechanic shop and pay them the $50-$60 they charge to do a leakdown test for you. The leakdown test will pinpoint the exact problem so that you don't go changing unneccessary items. |
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