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TOO MUCH TORQUE 05-24-2011 11:35 PM

What lubricant for caliper slide pins?
 
i changed the brakes at 90k and overlooked greasing the slide pins and now i want to re-lube it. the brake system works excellent still, i'll have a piece of mine knowing there is fresh and excellent lube there to protect my pins from wearing out and or seizing. Heard a lot of mixed reviews on sil-glyde, crc sta-lube and the whole line up of permatex brake lube. What have you used thats a proven replacement of what honda uses?... molykote m-77 i think?.....that stuff is hard to find and really expensive, so i think i'll pass on it.

razorlude 05-25-2011 05:57 AM

Re: What lubricant for caliper slide pins?
 
i used the synthetic grease(leftover from energy suspension bushing kit :D) n mix it with synthetic marine grease(YAMAHA grease D)......as long as it's non-oil based i think you'll be safe. main concern is lube it without degrade the rubber boot isnt it?

slowcivic2k 05-25-2011 07:10 PM

Re: What lubricant for caliper slide pins?
 
Use silicone brake lubricant, anything else is a waste of money, or will potentially swell the rubber components. Its 2 bucks at any parts store.

DCFIVER 05-28-2011 03:43 PM

Re: What lubricant for caliper slide pins?
 

Originally Posted by TOO MUCH TORQUE (Post 45336849)
i changed the brakes at 90k and overlooked greasing the slide pins and now i want to re-lube it. the brake system works excellent still, i'll have a piece of mine knowing there is fresh and excellent lube there to protect my pins from wearing out and or seizing. Heard a lot of mixed reviews on sil-glyde, crc sta-lube and the whole line up of permatex brake lube. What have you used thats a proven replacement of what honda uses?... molykote m-77 i think?.....that stuff is hard to find and really expensive, so i think i'll pass on it.

Molykote was the best but is no longer available in small quantities for purchase.(I searched and searched) However Honda does provide a small packet of Moly with every set of brake pads. If that is unavailable I personally use Wurth Silicone. It is a little pricey but well worth it. One tube will last me about 6 months or so, but this is with several dozen brake jobs in addition to what ever else i may use it for. (I use it for EVERYTHING) if you are a DIY'er it may well last you for years. You only need to use a little dab here and there.
http://www.international-auto.com/lu...d-lube-gel.cfm




**(I dont order from this site, I get it from our parts vendors, I was just using this site as a reference)

young-gun92eg 05-29-2011 11:33 AM

Re: What lubricant for caliper slide pins?
 
we use anti seize its a grey pastie substance but it seames to work good

non-VTEC 05-29-2011 02:44 PM

Re: What lubricant for caliper slide pins?
 
silglyde only...or some synthetic lubricant that is specific for slide pins only.

if you use any sort of anti-seize compound on the slide pins you will have seized caliper pins in no time.

DCFIVER 05-29-2011 06:42 PM

Re: What lubricant for caliper slide pins?
 

Originally Posted by non-VTEC (Post 45364447)
silglyde only...or some synthetic lubricant that is specific for slide pins only.

if you use any sort of anti-seize compound on the slide pins you will have seized caliper pins in no time.

Correct. Anti seize has a tendency to congeal and will usually cause the slide pins to seize up. I have corrected this problem more than once.

94EG8 05-30-2011 05:33 AM

Re: What lubricant for caliper slide pins?
 

Originally Posted by non-VTEC (Post 45364447)
silglyde only...or some synthetic lubricant that is specific for slide pins only.

if you use any sort of anti-seize compound on the slide pins you will have seized caliper pins in no time.

^ This. I've had to beat calipers off with a sledge hammer and even go so far as to use a torch, air chisel and a sledge on one that was seized on the slide pins so bad from using neverseize. Btw, Honda doesn't use M-77 on the slide pins, just on the anti-rattle clips and the backs of the pads.

DCFIVER 05-30-2011 11:11 AM

Re: What lubricant for caliper slide pins?
 

Originally Posted by 94EG8 (Post 45366980)
...Btw, Honda doesn't use M-77 on the slide pins, just on the anti-rattle clips and the backs of the pads.

In the 80's they said to apply it to all of the calipers sliding parts. In the 90's they said to use silicone grease. Now they have no recommendations for the pins, the packet of Moly included with the OE brake pads works well, however.

94EG8 05-30-2011 01:24 PM

Re: What lubricant for caliper slide pins?
 

Originally Posted by DCFIVER (Post 45368434)
In the 80's they said to apply it to all of the calipers sliding parts. In the 90's they said to use silicone grease. Now they have no recommendations for the pins

When I was working there last summer we were using silicone brake lube.


Originally Posted by DCFIVER (Post 45368434)
the packet of Moly included with the OE brake pads works well, however.

Not so much. I tried it before I worked for Honda, it came with the pads so I figured I'd try it, about a month in I had to beat the calipers off with a hammer. My dealership used to give us a tube of clear silicone lube for doing the slide pins, but if you got a caliper rebuild kit they came with a packet of orange stuff (which is what they normally used to from the factory)

greenchad 05-30-2011 02:38 PM

Re: What lubricant for caliper slide pins?
 
http://www.permatex.com/products/Aut..._Lubricant.htm

This is stuff I like to use.

JoshuaHonda 10-06-2015 06:26 AM

Re: What lubricant for caliper slide pins?
 
So what is the best lubricant I can buy in auto parts for caliper pins?

holmesnmanny 10-07-2015 07:03 PM

Re: What lubricant for caliper slide pins?
 
You can get one of those 99 cent tiny pack of brake caliper grease that you find on the auto parts stores counters. It will work just fine. However, I like to use the permatex stuff greenchad posted about. The link is dead but most parts stores should carry it. It comes in a 5 inch semi round plastic tub with a purple label.

rudebwoy 10-08-2015 04:27 PM

Re: What lubricant for caliper slide pins?
 
I use copper paste.

Bently_Coop 10-08-2015 05:29 PM

Re: What lubricant for caliper slide pins?
 
I use the purple Permatex. Either should work fine.


http://img.eautopartscatalog.com/liv...1828487PMX.JPG


https://www.carid.com/images/wp/perm...1845117pmx.jpg

theYBLEGAL 10-08-2015 05:51 PM

Re: What lubricant for caliper slide pins?
 
Honda Hi-Temp Urea Grease?


DCFIVER 10-09-2015 10:33 AM

Re: What lubricant for caliper slide pins?
 

Originally Posted by rudebwoy (Post 50568562)
I use copper paste.

You shouldn't. Its not for brakes.

DCFIVER 10-09-2015 10:39 AM

Re: What lubricant for caliper slide pins?
 

Originally Posted by theYBLEGAL (Post 50568642)

I wouldn't use it. It is no longer recommended for brakes(That I am aware of) Not sure why.

theYBLEGAL 10-09-2015 10:47 AM

Re: What lubricant for caliper slide pins?
 
Hmm, maybe this time will be the last time? Been using it for about 8 years on my slide pins and on the contact surfaces of pads with no problem.

spAdam 10-09-2015 11:29 AM

Re: What lubricant for caliper slide pins?
 
Piston pins, Niglube RM:

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/honda-t...e089059517.jpg

Piston pin boots, Shin-Etsu KS-62M

http://s85.photobucket.com/user/pacm...shin.jpg.html]http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k4...n3399/shin.jpg[/URL]

Edit: found a thread

https://honda-tech.com/honda-civic-d...-what-1948126/

Edit 2:

Got the pic to insert.

theYBLEGAL 10-09-2015 11:37 AM

Re: What lubricant for caliper slide pins?
 
(rofl) Urban Dictionary: niglube

Kay.

spAdam 10-09-2015 01:05 PM

Re: What lubricant for caliper slide pins?
 
Yeah I figured I'd let someone else do the chuckling this time.

rudebwoy 10-09-2015 02:38 PM

Re: What lubricant for caliper slide pins?
 

Originally Posted by DCFIVER (Post 50569627)
You shouldn't. Its not for brakes.

its sold here locally for use on brakes for stopping squeaking, but I have 3 different type of anti seize; Copper, Zink, and High temp. all suitable on brakes.

HondaPartsHero 10-10-2015 02:23 PM

Re: What lubricant for caliper slide pins?
 
Love this stuff for multiple uses including window tracks

https://www.belmetric.com/images/C-0...Car%20Care.jpg

DCFIVER 10-11-2015 06:00 PM

Re: What lubricant for caliper slide pins?
 

Originally Posted by rudebwoy (Post 50570004)
its sold here locally for use on brakes for stopping squeaking, but I have 3 different type of anti seize; Copper, Zink, and High temp. all suitable on brakes.

None of them are suitable for brakes. You should never use a petroleum based product on brakes.


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