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todahead 11-09-2010 12:35 PM

3'' exhaust vs 2.5'' on b18c any dyno's??
 
i'm searching for an exhaust upgrade i own a dc2 swap on ek chassis .
current mods are 3.5'' intake with flow stack,rmf narrow header,decat and a 2.25'' hks silent cat back exhaust.engine internals are stock.
soon i'll tune using a chipped p28 and i need a new exhaust since hks has some bends etc.

i found here some people suggest 3'' exhausts even for stock b16's
but i haven't seen any dyno runs or any comparison between a smaller diameter exhaust.
with my set up i will have some power gains or just only a louder ex system?
cheers !

DDTECH 11-09-2010 12:39 PM

Re: 3'' exhaust vs 2.5'' on b18c any dyno's??
 
3'' inch ..period.

If you'd search correctly you'd find a ton..

https://honda-tech.com/forums/showth...%27%27+exhaust
https://honda-tech.com/forums/showth...%27%27+exhaust
https://honda-tech.com/forums/showth...%27%27+exhaust
https://honda-tech.com/forums/showth...%27%27+exhaust
https://honda-tech.com/forums/showth...%27%27+exhaust


there's a ton more, you dont need a dyno to see, 3'' exhaust should be a minimal for any all motor setup, if its a d series or b series or f or k it shouldn't matter, its been proven time and time again that a 3'' is better.

dntnedvtec 11-09-2010 01:30 PM

Re: 3'' exhaust vs 2.5'' on b18c any dyno's??
 
I haz a 3" exhauze.

Its loud, but when blazing down the strip, who cares? But for DD, not a good thing.

todahead 11-10-2010 07:33 AM

Re: 3'' exhaust vs 2.5'' on b18c any dyno's??
 

Originally Posted by dntnedvtec (Post 43974797)
I haz a 3" exhauze.

Its loud, but when blazing down the strip, who cares? But for DD, not a good thing.

why is a bad thought if you use big resonators it can be good even for cops ears ...

todahead 11-10-2010 07:41 AM

Re: 3'' exhaust vs 2.5'' on b18c any dyno's??
 

Originally Posted by ALL M0T0R (Post 43974333)
3'' inch ..period.

If you'd search correctly you'd find a ton..

https://honda-tech.com/forums/showth...%27%27+exhaust
https://honda-tech.com/forums/showth...%27%27+exhaust
https://honda-tech.com/forums/showth...%27%27+exhaust
https://honda-tech.com/forums/showth...%27%27+exhaust
https://honda-tech.com/forums/showth...%27%27+exhaust


there's a ton more, you dont need a dyno to see, 3'' exhaust should be a minimal for any all motor setup, if its a d series or b series or f or k it shouldn't matter, its been proven time and time again that a 3'' is better.

hmmm i think i can trust you on that most ppl here use 2.5'' witch actually is a true 60mm (ID) on b18 i'll go for a full custom 3'' exhaust thanks for the search btw !

88Hatchy 11-10-2010 03:49 PM

Re: 3'' exhaust vs 2.5'' on b18c any dyno's??
 
No need for a custom exhaust. Thermal R&D makes a 3" exhaust for all our cars.

89LSED 11-11-2010 04:39 PM

Re: 3'' exhaust vs 2.5'' on b18c any dyno's??
 
3" exhaust on a stock internal NA motor?

Seem a little to big for me. Dont you need soooome back pressure?

DDTECH 11-11-2010 05:00 PM

Re: 3'' exhaust vs 2.5'' on b18c any dyno's??
 

Originally Posted by 89LSED (Post 43992646)
3" exhaust on a stock internal NA motor?

Seem a little to big for me. Dont you need soooome back pressure?

Nope

FlewByU352 11-11-2010 10:17 PM

Re: 3'' exhaust vs 2.5'' on b18c any dyno's??
 
It is impossible to get through to 98% of people that you do not need back pressure. Ive tried to explain my 100+ pages of reading and research and they say no you definately need back pressure. Yeah ok (rolls eyes). I went with 2.5" which is actually 2.36" because its not a Vibrant (which makes the most beautiful exhaust lol and is true size ID). I used this over 3" simply due to it is a DD more so than a track car. It does see the track but 2.5" was more appealing. I think the only way I would go 3" is boost but I like NA so it would be a full time track car.

C_Rock77 11-11-2010 11:26 PM

Re: 3'' exhaust vs 2.5'' on b18c any dyno's??
 

Originally Posted by 89LSED (Post 43992646)
3" exhaust on a stock internal NA motor?

Seem a little to big for me. Dont you need soooome back pressure?

Only if you believe the backpressure fairy will put some WHP under your pillow at night.

3" exhaust has been shown to produce power in a VARIETY of builds...in B16s where people THOUGHT they wouldn't, it picked up power.

Like many have said, they go with 2.5" as a compromise.

flipmoderacing1 11-12-2010 03:57 AM

Re: 3'' exhaust vs 2.5'' on b18c any dyno's??
 
I put a 3'' on my dsm and yeah its loud at lower rpms n when ur runnin wop, but there's no harm in it. I mean as long as u use a hi flow cat n dont mind loosin some mpgs..... It wont b as bad on ur car as it was on mine. I went from 29 mpg to like 13, but i've also got 532 cc injectors usin a fuel management system. it wont hurt the engine at all n might give u a max hp gain of 15 hp or so. But it will def sound nice! Just beware of really strict residential areas! he he

bonesx0x2x4x 11-12-2010 09:56 AM

Re: 3'' exhaust vs 2.5'' on b18c any dyno's??
 
i had a 2.5" on my b18 teggy for a while...moved to a 3" recently...alot louder better performance by a hair and deff good if your thinkin bout a turbo in the future

F THE POLICE!:)

neverstop 11-12-2010 10:13 AM

Re: 3'' exhaust vs 2.5'' on b18c any dyno's??
 
this whole argument is dumb..... do race cars run tiny exhaust for "back pressure" or does nearly every fast drag car run open header?

done.

00Red_SiR 11-12-2010 10:21 AM

Re: 3'' exhaust vs 2.5'' on b18c any dyno's??
 

Originally Posted by flipmoderacing1 (Post 43995472)
I put a 3'' on my dsm and yeah its loud at lower rpms n when ur runnin wop, but there's no harm in it. I mean as long as u use a hi flow cat n dont mind loosin some mpgs..... It wont b as bad on ur car as it was on mine. I went from 29 mpg to like 13, but i've also got 532 cc injectors usin a fuel management system. it wont hurt the engine at all n might give u a max hp gain of 15 hp or so. But it will def sound nice! Just beware of really strict residential areas! he he

lol...

todahead 11-13-2010 09:26 AM

Re: 3'' exhaust vs 2.5'' on b18c any dyno's??
 
learned :velocity is good
back pressure is bad
so the bigger is better on top of all is open headers thanks!! ;)

fv8s 11-14-2010 06:04 PM

Re: 3'' exhaust vs 2.5'' on b18c any dyno's??
 

Originally Posted by todahead (Post 44003408)
learned :velocity is good
back pressure is bad
so the bigger is better on top of all is open headers thanks!! ;)

haha. lesson learned

89LSED 11-15-2010 07:27 PM

Re: 3'' exhaust vs 2.5'' on b18c any dyno's??
 
Well i think then im gonna suck up and do it!

I just made my own 2.5 system on my wagon.

Im gonna get a baseline done at Midnight, then build myself an exact same system out of 3. Run it again

DVDr 11-16-2010 06:36 AM

Re: 3'' exhaust vs 2.5'' on b18c any dyno's??
 

Originally Posted by 89LSED (Post 44020408)
Well i think then im gonna suck up and do it!

I just made my own 2.5 system on my wagon.

Im gonna get a baseline done at Midnight, then build myself an exact same system out of 3. Run it again

Thats great for comparison .

going to dyno ?

89LSED 11-16-2010 11:34 AM

Re: 3'' exhaust vs 2.5'' on b18c any dyno's??
 
yup.
cant do it right yet, because my motor is blown... :( but as soon as midnight builds me a new one then ill get some numbers

VtecCarHauler 11-16-2010 11:58 AM

Re: 3'' exhaust vs 2.5'' on b18c any dyno's??
 
3 inch all the way. I remember ppl saying 2.5 was to big back in the days.

DDTECH 11-16-2010 12:25 PM

Re: 3'' exhaust vs 2.5'' on b18c any dyno's??
 

Originally Posted by VtecCarHauler (Post 44025536)
3 inch all the way. I remember ppl saying 2.5 was to big back in the days.

Thats because people were uneducated.

2k.civic.si 11-16-2010 06:36 PM

Re: 3'' exhaust vs 2.5'' on b18c any dyno's??
 
i switched to 3"....and im never looking back...it made more power everywhere

mrbsponge 11-16-2010 06:45 PM

Re: 3'' exhaust vs 2.5'' on b18c any dyno's??
 
we have countless dynos of cars going from small exhausts to 3in, i wouldnt put anything else on a gsr or larger nowadays as everyone will eventually want to step up thier motors, i dont see many people adding a couple parts and quiting these days.

a solid muffler, and or resonator will do its job to keep the otne down and sound nice

rhymeshark916 11-17-2010 12:31 AM

Re: 3'' exhaust vs 2.5'' on b18c any dyno's??
 
"89lsed", make me a 2.5" piping with one big resonator for my 92 h/b. :thumbup:

Ohio 11-17-2010 05:23 AM

Re: 3'' exhaust vs 2.5'' on b18c any dyno's??
 
im having a custom 3 inch done too, Just got my KiddRacing Header.. Now its time to start looking at 22 inch long magnaflow mufflers for my Custom 3 inch side exit exhaust on my DB8


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