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Deetz 05-31-2010 07:10 PM

D16A6 (Si) head gasket job
 
Well, i picked up a cheap 5 speed 1990 Civic Si a couple days ago for $500. Car is in ok condition and can use a little TLC. On the way home i noticed how much white smoke was burning......head gasket :P

I got a new full oem gasket kit, went out to the garage and started ripping the engine apart. Turns out the engine still have the original fiber/paper type material head gasket still the, it sure was leaking, lol

Just looking for any input on the best way to clean off the old crap....what is the best way?
Here's a couple pics of the car and where i'm at.........

couple cell phone pics
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/a...007800x600.jpg
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/a...CivicSi008.jpg

Engine ripped apart
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/a...009800x600.jpg
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/a...002800x600.jpg

decided to wrinkle coat the valve cover while i was at it :P
http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/a...008800x600.jpg

BrayzieEF9 05-31-2010 07:28 PM

Re: D16A6 (Si) head gasket job
 
nice find clean even though paints faded

BrayzieEF9 05-31-2010 07:31 PM

Re: D16A6 (Si) head gasket job
 
have u tried a razor?

~sp33~ 05-31-2010 10:31 PM

Re: D16A6 (Si) head gasket job
 
Isn't there a product called 'gasket remover'? Apply+scrape off.

Deetz 05-31-2010 11:17 PM

Re: D16A6 (Si) head gasket job
 

Originally Posted by BrayzieEF9 (Post 42631924)
have u tried a razor?

I haven't, is that what Honda dealers use?


Originally Posted by ~sp33~ (Post 42633329)
Isn't there a product called 'gasket remover'? Apply+scrape off.

Not sure, that's why i am asking. I know all the "newer" head gaskets are metal, and so easy to deal with when changing over. I posted this one, because it was original, never been changed....the style that Honda went away from. It just leaves so much material behind apon removal after all of this time :P

Deetz 05-31-2010 11:22 PM

Re: D16A6 (Si) head gasket job
 
The underside of the head had that junk all over it too, you might be able to see what i am talking about

http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/a...7800x600-1.jpg

~sp33~ 06-01-2010 12:04 AM

Re: D16A6 (Si) head gasket job
 

Originally Posted by Deetz (Post 42633506)
I haven't, is that what Honda dealers use?



Not sure, that's why i am asking. I know all the "newer" head gaskets are metal, and so easy to deal with when changing over. I posted this one, because it was original, never been changed....the style that Honda went away from. It just leaves so much material behind apon removal after all of this time :P

http://news.thomasnet.com/images/large/019/19779.jpg

Not all 'new' head gaskets are metal. Most that i know of are the same type as your engine had on there, when i did a HG on my Cressida i used that soft type. They have their advantages, for one they form a better seal if your mating surfaces aren't 100% true, which is often the case with old heads.

D16SiHatch 06-01-2010 11:34 AM

Re: D16A6 (Si) head gasket job
 
i tried using a gasket remover when i did an a6/y8 swap and it didn't work worth a shit. tried scraping at it, used a razor, nothing worked very efficiently and i had been at it for probably 2 hours.

then i got an idea and a buddy of mine lended me an angle air grinder with a fairly high grit pad. it worked awesome and took all the old material off real fast and left a nice finish for the new gasket to mate to. i know this method isn't recommended by some, but if you're careful and don't gouge the surface, or use to low grit of a pad, it should work fine.

i've also heard people say these work pretty well, but i haven't used one personally so i can't say. 3m roloc bristle pad i believe is what it's called

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lM7IgqMAiA

Deetz 06-01-2010 01:48 PM

Re: D16A6 (Si) head gasket job
 
Wow, that's pretty cool. I'll look into that, thanks! :)

lunalink 06-01-2010 02:45 PM

Re: D16A6 (Si) head gasket job
 
D16 si hatch beat me too it lol.

D16SiHatch 06-01-2010 05:22 PM

Re: D16A6 (Si) head gasket job
 

Originally Posted by Deetz (Post 42638787)
Wow, that's pretty cool. I'll look into that, thanks! :)

shore thing man


Originally Posted by lunalink (Post 42638787)
D16 si hatch beat me too it lol.

indeed i did :p

1 Civic I 06-01-2010 06:13 PM

Re: D16A6 (Si) head gasket job
 
Thats a nice find i wish i could find one for that cheap even a shell. must be 2nd coat of paint. handles are painted red? arnt they all black?

Deetz 06-01-2010 06:54 PM

Re: D16A6 (Si) head gasket job
 

Originally Posted by 1 Civic I (Post 42640973)
must be 2nd coat of paint. handles are painted red? arnt they all black?

Actually, here in Canada, "ALL" 1990 and 91 Civic and crx Si models came with both painted mirrors and door handles. ALL EF's in Canada also have pillar mounted seat belts too

sde780 06-02-2010 04:29 AM

Re: D16A6 (Si) head gasket job
 
nice pickup

I used a razorblade on mine, little by little. But it came out clean

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/n...MAGE_259-1.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/n.../IMAGE_260.jpg

BrayzieEF9 06-02-2010 11:38 AM

Re: D16A6 (Si) head gasket job
 

Originally Posted by Deetz (Post 42633506)
I haven't, is that what Honda dealers use?

not sure if the dealers uses razor blades to removed em,but thats what me and my buddies use,its like the same concept of removing stickers off your window with a razor blade

D16SiHatch 06-02-2010 11:53 AM

Re: D16A6 (Si) head gasket job
 
razor blades not only suck to use, but you run the risk of nicking the block. using the angle air tool allows you to achieve a nice even surface, not to mention it takes a hell of a lot less time.

BrayzieEF9 06-02-2010 12:01 PM

Re: D16A6 (Si) head gasket job
 
yeah thats true,but not everybody can afford air tools though.

jbmmfrie 06-02-2010 12:04 PM

Re: D16A6 (Si) head gasket job
 

Originally Posted by Deetz (Post 42633532)
The underside of the head had that junk all over it too, you might be able to see what i am talking about

http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/a...7800x600-1.jpg

ewwww gross!


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