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96ej8MR 05-04-2010 08:27 AM

timing chain
 
Hey I am a b series guy and just about to buy a rsx base model 5 speed. I am just wondering what the maintenance is like for these, when is the timing chain, tensioner changed?

96ej8MR 05-05-2010 06:29 PM

Re: timing chain
 
I'm taking it you guys don't do maintenance on your cars? or what?

DaveSi677 05-05-2010 10:12 PM

Re: timing chain
 
I'm taking it that you haven't done much research on this topic?

96ej8MR 05-06-2010 02:23 AM

Re: timing chain
 
yeah I know when its supposed to be done according to honda, but when is a good time ideally

blackKready 05-06-2010 02:36 PM

Re: timing chain
 
obviously you havent , cause in theory , they never need replacing.

96ej8MR 05-06-2010 03:27 PM

Re: timing chain
 
oh so your telling me the timing chain tensioner never needs replacing

DaveSi677 05-06-2010 05:16 PM

Re: timing chain
 

Originally Posted by 96ej8MR (Post 42393670)
yeah I know when its supposed to be done according to honda, but when is a good time ideally

So you got your answer! Why would our answer be any different from Honda???

96ej8MR 05-06-2010 05:39 PM

Re: timing chain
 
well apparently it is different, because he said you never change the tensioner

troolsport 05-06-2010 06:21 PM

Re: timing chain
 
Start the car, then get a gallon of water, and put the air intake into the water

96ej8MR 05-06-2010 07:43 PM

Re: timing chain
 
haha funny guy...

speedengineer 05-06-2010 08:14 PM

Re: timing chain
 
Yeah, people can be cruel on the internet.

You shouldn't need to worry about the timing chain, it ought to never need replacement. I had my head off at 140k miles (just for fun, nothing wrong) and had no worries about putting the old one back in.

96ej8MR 05-07-2010 01:02 AM

Re: timing chain
 
yeah, but what about the tensioner

Blindeye_03 05-07-2010 09:24 PM

Re: timing chain
 
I saw a thread somewhere either on ephatch or on here but since ephatch went down I cant find the tread anymore.

There is a way to see how far your chain has stretched - if it is stretched too far then its just a matter of time till you need a new chain. But in theory they arent going to break, just get looser over time.

The tensioner - I am not sure how to check if its good or not. Obviously you would want to check these things for preventative maintenance but its also not like if you had a timing belt. The chain is much better IMO.

turboteg2nv 05-10-2010 11:21 AM

Re: timing chain
 
The chains can stretch over time, so if you ever remove the head, I'd advise replacing it. I would measure it first just to be certain that it has stretched.

The tensioner is pressured from the oil pump, which means change your oil properly to help maintain chain life. I've heard of certain aftermarket high lift cams causing the chain to reverse direction for a split second and causing damage to the tensioner. So the tensioner should be inspected periodically for wear to determine when to replace them.

Here's an article on how to upgrade the OEM tensioner:
http://www.k20a.org/forum/showthread...in+replacement

96ej8MR 05-10-2010 04:47 PM

Re: timing chain
 
yeah exactly and all these other guys were saying never lmao

Dunton 05-11-2010 05:44 AM

Re: timing chain
 
Hi, I am new to this forum.

I own a 2004 Honda Accord and have to replace my timing chain (2.4L engine) according to the engine code.

My car has 85,000 kilometers on it but I am not the first owner. The car however is basically in like new condition.

Honda told me that neglecting oil changes can cause this issue. I myself have changed the oil well under the service intervals using the recommended oil.

I am pretty disgusted I have to replace the timing chain with so few kilometers. I contacted Honda Canada and hoping they would "good will" some of the bill, but they basically told me to go F#@k myself.

This is a hard pill to swallow since this is my second Honda and I have had bad experiences with both in terms of mechanical issues and service issues.

All my other cars I have owned have been Toyotas and they have always been incredibly reliable for me.

My first car was a 86 Toyata Camry. I drove the car for 5 years and didn't do one oil change or any maintenance to it at all. I beat the crap outta that car and it would not die. I sold it to a lady for 500 dollars and she continued driving it for at least 3 more years.

I guess my expectations are too high for Honda.

This experience has left me a little jaded. :mad:

I can't see me owning another Honda.

cloumep3 05-11-2010 06:08 AM

Re: timing chain
 

Originally Posted by Dunton (Post 42439954)
Hi, I am new to this forum.

I own a 2004 Honda Accord and have to replace my timing chain (2.4L engine) according to the engine code.

My car has 85,000 kilometers on it but I am not the first owner. The car however is basically in like new condition.

Honda told me that neglecting oil changes can cause this issue. I myself have changed the oil well under the service intervals using the recommended oil.

I am pretty disgusted I have to replace the timing chain with so few kilometers. I contacted Honda Canada and hoping they would "good will" some of the bill, but they basically told me to go F#@k myself.

This is a hard pill to swallow since this is my second Honda and I have had bad experiences with both in terms of mechanical issues and service issues.

All my other cars I have owned have been Toyotas and they have always been incredibly reliable for me.

My first car was a 86 Toyata Camry. I drove the car for 5 years and didn't do one oil change or any maintenance to it at all. I beat the crap outta that car and it would not die. I sold it to a lady for 500 dollars and she continued driving it for at least 3 more years.

I guess my expectations are too high for Honda.

This experience has left me a little jaded. :mad:

I can't see me owning another Honda.

Good for ya!!!

turboteg2nv 05-11-2010 12:15 PM

Re: timing chain
 

Originally Posted by Dunton (Post 42439954)
Hi, I am new to this forum.

I own a 2004 Honda Accord and have to replace my timing chain (2.4L engine) according to the engine code.

My car has 85,000 kilometers on it but I am not the first owner. The car however is basically in like new condition.

Honda told me that neglecting oil changes can cause this issue. I myself have changed the oil well under the service intervals using the recommended oil.

I am pretty disgusted I have to replace the timing chain with so few kilometers. I contacted Honda Canada and hoping they would "good will" some of the bill, but they basically told me to go F#@k myself.

This is a hard pill to swallow since this is my second Honda and I have had bad experiences with both in terms of mechanical issues and service issues.

All my other cars I have owned have been Toyotas and they have always been incredibly reliable for me.

My first car was a 86 Toyata Camry. I drove the car for 5 years and didn't do one oil change or any maintenance to it at all. I beat the crap outta that car and it would not die. I sold it to a lady for 500 dollars and she continued driving it for at least 3 more years.

I guess my expectations are too high for Honda.

This experience has left me a little jaded. :mad:

I can't see me owning another Honda.

Wow, thanks for spamming our forum with slander. :|

And that's what you get for being :canuck:

http://jasdemi.com/wp-content/uploads/banhammer1.jpg

Dunton 05-11-2010 02:31 PM

Re: timing chain
 
I apologize, this isn't even the proper place for this post. I needed to vent.

I'll cancel my membership.

blackKready 05-12-2010 06:12 PM

Re: timing chain
 
the k24's are a different story than any of the k20's. the k24's are known to have chain stretch. the k20's dont have this issue.

if you wanna check your tensioner , you pull the 3 10mm bolts holding the tensioner inspection cover bolted to the timing cover , see how far the piston is out of the tensioner.

03_NBP_K20A2 05-12-2010 11:07 PM

Re: timing chain
 
When you start a K series and you hear your valves slamming shut for a quick second, your timing chain tensioner is going bad. Otherwise, there is no scheduled maintenance plan for the timing chain/tensioner

josh's ep3 05-12-2010 11:57 PM

Re: timing chain
 

Originally Posted by Dunton (Post 42445239)
I apologize, this isn't even the proper place for this post. I needed to vent.

I'll cancel my membership.

Hahaha, new sig :D

turboteg2nv 05-13-2010 05:41 AM

Re: timing chain
 
^^ lmao!! :thumbup:

cloumep3 05-13-2010 06:33 AM

Re: timing chain
 

Originally Posted by josh's ep3 (Post 42461441)
Hahaha, new sig :D

you beat me to it... :P

90lxsdn 05-13-2010 08:07 AM

Re: timing chain
 
I had my buddy at honda check the chain on my ep3 for me. Mine isnt streched at all, and I have 152k miles on my car, granted 98% of those miles are highway, but still.


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